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Daughter to get ensuite bathroom.

274 replies

Rhudson1992 · 23/04/2025 00:10

My husband and myself are set to purchase a 4 bedroom 3 bath home, the fist level having the primary suite and attached bath, and the 2nd and 3rd bedroom with hall bath. The 2nd level has 1 bedroom with attached bathroom and a small searing area just outside the bedroom. My original plan was to put daughter (4) in the upstairs bedroom and use the living space as a playroom of sorts. That would mean my stepson (12) would stay in 1 of the 2 bedrooms on the lower level with the hall bath.
Stepson has decided its unfair that he not get his own bathroom. My though was he is sooner to be coming and going on his own than daughter and is no longer in need of the extra play area as he is involved in activites outside the home. I also see it that a developing girl (down the line) might like more privacy from her brother and his friends.

Would it be unreasonable to put her upstairs and him downstairs?

OP posts:
Walkerzoo · 23/04/2025 10:00

I had that type of house. I wanted the child on same floor as me. Don't look years ahead. Now is important and for me it didn't work with 4 year old on a different floor

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 23/04/2025 10:00

I would give him is own bathroom.

on condition he keeps it clean.

in fact that would be my major reason for giving him the top floor. He cleans, tidies, brings his washing down. You don’t go up there.

then at least you don’t have to look at it. If he doesn’t keep his end of the bargain he needs to be using a shared bathroom so you only clean once.

Calliopespa · 23/04/2025 10:00

RedSkyDelights · 23/04/2025 09:58

People are seeing "wicked stepmother" because OP's arguments for giving her DD the top floor room are extremely weak. For example, suggesting that it's important to have 12 year old SS close at hand for supervision, whilst it's seemingly ok for a 4 year old to be two floors away with unsupervised access to a bathroom with bathtub. Hence people are assuming there is a different reason, and OP is making up other ones to justify her position.

Precisely

CoastalCalm · 23/04/2025 10:01

This feels more that you see stepchild as less than your biological child

CiaoMeow · 23/04/2025 10:02

As PP's - better the opposite way around. The bathroom is a more important factor than the play area. As a STB teenager, he needs the bathroom more than a 4 year old does.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:02

AthWat · 23/04/2025 09:57

You wouldnt want a 12 year old to be out of earshot? What, ever?

That’s not what l said. I said l would not want him out of earshot with his friends in a top room. I don’t think it’s appropriate for either child - better allocating them each a room on the lower floor with a shared bathroom, with a view to the older child getting more privacy with more responsibility when he gets a little older.

Cantbelieveit888 · 23/04/2025 10:03

Yes boy cave on the upper floor with own bathroom!
4 year old daughter on the same floor as me using the main bath room which will be hers in away as you have your own en-suite.

PicklesMacGraw · 23/04/2025 10:04

Im ignoring the fact he is a step son as I don’t think it’s relevent but I’d give the 12 year old the top floor and the 4 year old a room on the same floor as you. I’d prefer having the 4 year old on the same floor as me and it seems much more sensible for the 12 year old to have his own space.

RaspberryBeretxx · 23/04/2025 10:06

I would want DD(4) on the same floor as me. Assuming DSS stays 50% of the time or more, I'd give him the en suite now but say to him that when he's staying less (eg if he stays less as he gets older and/or goes to uni) and DD is older you may revisit and swap rooms. What does his Dad think?

Terrapinn · 23/04/2025 10:07

I wouldnt want my 4 year old trying to get down a staircase on her own in the dark at night.

Also she wont play in the the contained area at the top of the house - she needs to play (and sleep) in eye / ear shot of where you will be - otherwise you will just keep dragging her toys up 2 flights of stairs and they will morph back down across 3 floors.

BCSurvivor · 23/04/2025 10:08

OP, you're being so unfair to your step son.
Your 4 Yr old daughter effectively gets two rooms and an en suite...on a completely separate floor...whilst your 12 yr old step son gets one room and a shared family bathroom.
Do you often sideline your step son so blatantly?

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 10:10

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 09:54

I have a stepdaughter and a biological child of similar age to OP’s. There is no way l would want him out of earshot in a top room with his friends. I think a better solution is that they are allocated the two rooms on the lower floor with the hallway bathroom until the boy is a bit older, at which point he can take the top room. I think if OP hadn’t mentioned the boy is her step child, the discussion would be kept to the practicalities OP has asked advice on, so l’m confidently predicting an all out pile on by the end of the thread.

Edited

People are discussing the practicalities. The step element shouldn’t change the room set up in this case, although seemingly it does for the OP. There is no practical positive in putting the 4 year old upstairs.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:11

Calliopespa · 23/04/2025 10:00

Precisely

Alternatively we could all take it at face value and advise on what’s being said, instead of lecturing the OP on what a shit stepmother she is, based on nothing more than assumption. If there was any bias against the stepson OP would be mad to come to MN for advice. I have a 12 year old and no way would l want him and his friends at the top of the house on their own until he was a little older and more responsible. I’d put both children on the lower floor with the shared bathroom and move the older child up when he gets a bit older.

Theworldisinyourhands · 23/04/2025 10:12

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 09:47

Funny how every couple of pages there’s another attempt to turn this into yet another wicked stepmother thread. I’m a step mum with another biological child and l don’t get that vibe at all. If that were the case why on earth would OP come on to MN for advice, knowing that the general consensus is that step parents are the root of all evil and step children must be accommodated to the exclusion of all else.

Disagree. She's trying to suggest that a 12 year old needs more supervision than a 4 year old and is to be less trusted with their own floor of a house that has a bath. WTF?! Unless there's a backstory eg ss has SEN then this is pure madness. The only genuine reasoning I can think is that she just wants her daughter to have the better room because she's being precious about it. Sorry but if ss is spending good amounts of time there and her partner is co-owner of the property then actually how dare she?!

There is also a hint of sexism about the explanations. A hormonal boy needs privacy and their own bathroom just as much as a hormonal girl and much more than a 4 year old. If OP doesn't realise this then for her ss's sake she really needs to educate herself about the graphic realities of adolescence in boys before it's too late. As myself and other pp have said the fair and practical way to approach this is surely to allow ss this room until dd is of adolescent age then expect ss to move to a smaller room or move out if he doesn't like this. I'd be making this clear to ss now too.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:13

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 10:10

People are discussing the practicalities. The step element shouldn’t change the room set up in this case, although seemingly it does for the OP. There is no practical positive in putting the 4 year old upstairs.

But there’s nothing to suggest that it’s on the basis of him being a step child - just a bit of a misguided sense that the 4 year old would need more privacy because she’s a girl.

rosemarble · 23/04/2025 10:14

A 4 year old does not have any use for their own bathroom.
Nor does a 12 year old, but they have a stronger argument for having one if it's available.
He'll love having his own space up there. He's not off in another wing of the house where you won't be able to keep an eye on him and his friends. If he doesn't look after the bathroom he will lose the privilege.

What does DSS's father think?
I hope you haven't promised the upstairs to your daughter already.

Calliopespa · 23/04/2025 10:15

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:11

Alternatively we could all take it at face value and advise on what’s being said, instead of lecturing the OP on what a shit stepmother she is, based on nothing more than assumption. If there was any bias against the stepson OP would be mad to come to MN for advice. I have a 12 year old and no way would l want him and his friends at the top of the house on their own until he was a little older and more responsible. I’d put both children on the lower floor with the shared bathroom and move the older child up when he gets a bit older.

But you are one of the few who feels that way “ on the practicalities.”’

Most of us - step issues aside - feel 12 is a very suitable age to have that little bit of space.

It’s actually you focusing more on the step issue.

MaloryJones · 23/04/2025 10:15

Pihrd · 23/04/2025 00:39

I also see it that a developing girl (down the line) might like more privacy from her brother and his friends.

So you think your 4 year old needs privacy in eight or so years time but don’t think a 12 year old might like it now?

YAB completely unreasonable. Give the pre-teen the second floor. Less noisy when he has his friends over, more privacy for him, and surely better for a four year old to be on the same level as the parents and not walking down a flight of stairs when scared/upset/had an accident/whatever.

This ^

SnakesandKnives · 23/04/2025 10:15

seven pages of everyone telling the OP the same thing including
multiple comments pointing out that having a FOUR year old several floors away and with options to cause harm to the house and themselves is not a smart plan

£100 says it won’t make any difference. She hasn’t come on here for advice - she wants comments to back herself up with disgruntled SS and OH. Will now ignore thread is it didn’t give the answer she wanted

Calliopespa · 23/04/2025 10:17

SnakesandKnives · 23/04/2025 10:15

seven pages of everyone telling the OP the same thing including
multiple comments pointing out that having a FOUR year old several floors away and with options to cause harm to the house and themselves is not a smart plan

£100 says it won’t make any difference. She hasn’t come on here for advice - she wants comments to back herself up with disgruntled SS and OH. Will now ignore thread is it didn’t give the answer she wanted

🎯

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:19

Theworldisinyourhands · 23/04/2025 10:12

Disagree. She's trying to suggest that a 12 year old needs more supervision than a 4 year old and is to be less trusted with their own floor of a house that has a bath. WTF?! Unless there's a backstory eg ss has SEN then this is pure madness. The only genuine reasoning I can think is that she just wants her daughter to have the better room because she's being precious about it. Sorry but if ss is spending good amounts of time there and her partner is co-owner of the property then actually how dare she?!

There is also a hint of sexism about the explanations. A hormonal boy needs privacy and their own bathroom just as much as a hormonal girl and much more than a 4 year old. If OP doesn't realise this then for her ss's sake she really needs to educate herself about the graphic realities of adolescence in boys before it's too late. As myself and other pp have said the fair and practical way to approach this is surely to allow ss this room until dd is of adolescent age then expect ss to move to a smaller room or move out if he doesn't like this. I'd be making this clear to ss now too.

Edited

I can’t see any bias because of the fact he’s a SC, but I do agree with you about the sexism angle. Yes, the girl will need privacy at some point and an en-suite is the ideal way to ensure that, but not at age four - it’s unnecessary. But speaking as a step parent and also the mother of a twelve year old, my solution would be a room each on the lower floor with the hallway bathroom. We all know our own kids best and l wouldn’t trust mine entertaining his friends on a floor to themselves at the top of the house until he’s a bit older.

Dollshousedolly · 23/04/2025 10:21

I think the 12 yo on the top floor and the 4 yo on the same level as you, the third bedroom there could be her playroom.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:22

Calliopespa · 23/04/2025 10:15

But you are one of the few who feels that way “ on the practicalities.”’

Most of us - step issues aside - feel 12 is a very suitable age to have that little bit of space.

It’s actually you focusing more on the step issue.

Well no - not really. If others hadn’t made it an issue there would be nothing to focus on.

Calliopespa · 23/04/2025 10:23

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 23/04/2025 10:22

Well no - not really. If others hadn’t made it an issue there would be nothing to focus on.

Well let’s pretend they are both bio kids then.

I still say it’s obvious not to stick a four year old up there and it’s perfectly appropriate for a 12 year old.

springsprungsprang · 23/04/2025 10:23

Okay so the privacy thing is a red herring I think. I don't think anyone actually needs their own bathroom! Many family homes have one family bathroom and it's absolutely fine. So no I don't think either DD or SS need their own bathroom to have privacy. That's what a bedroom is for.

I would probably do as PP said and give SS the space with the seating area, on agreement it's until he's 18. Then when he's 18 it's her turn to have the bigger space.

I know this won't be a popular view but me doing this would also probably depend on how much time he is with you and whether he has equivalent at his other home. If he's with you a couple of nights a month he won't need a whole floor for his stuff. But if he's with you a lot then what I suggested makes most sense to me.