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Are men going to now wholeheartedly welcome trans women into their spaces? Utterly brilliant if so ...

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loveyouradvice · 22/04/2025 13:41

Embracing the full breadth of what it means to be a man

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NeverOneBiscuit · 17/05/2025 16:53

Helleofabore Thanks for the interview clip. I’d heard of the case but didn’t know much of the detail. Fascinating to observe the tone Victoria D used with the Dutch guy. She was quite terse, totally unsympathetic & was clear it was just a belief. Yet with the other man being interviewed, who also held a belief that isn’t true ie that he is actually now a woman, her tone was soft, she was supportive & unquestioning.

That’s actually a great demonstration of how #bekind has addled people’s minds. The Dutch guy is right, there’s no difference between him & the guy next to him, they both hold a belief. However a ‘serious’ journalist like Victoria D is captured & nodding along with the man with extra special feelings that he’s not male but female.

TheKeatingFive · 17/05/2025 16:55

Sabire9 · 17/05/2025 13:30

"that them simply entering that space is a very clear sign that they wish to violate the privacy and dignity of female people?"

You're posted a link to a consultancy whose stated purpose is to provide evidence to support those lobbying against transgender rights?

Could you provide a link to a source that's more impartial?

Were you referencing my post there?

If so ... they cite all of their multiple sources in easily accessible links. Which sources do you take issue with?

NCForThatForumM · 17/05/2025 17:13

It was interesting that in the Nederlands, a man tried to get his birth year changed so he could keep working. The court refused. He then did interviews internationally to point out how he was discriminated against because some people got to change their sex markers to the opposite sex and benefitted from
that change. But he couldn’t. He wanted to keep working. Using some poster’s logic, he was not harming anyone at all. Yet he couldn’t do it.

I never understood that. It seems entirely plausible to me that someone could sincerely "feel" a different age to their real age. I do all the time. And we know how each age we've experienced "feels". So there can be none of the

RedHelenB · 17/05/2025 17:29

NCForThatForumM · 17/05/2025 17:13

It was interesting that in the Nederlands, a man tried to get his birth year changed so he could keep working. The court refused. He then did interviews internationally to point out how he was discriminated against because some people got to change their sex markers to the opposite sex and benefitted from
that change. But he couldn’t. He wanted to keep working. Using some poster’s logic, he was not harming anyone at all. Yet he couldn’t do it.

I never understood that. It seems entirely plausible to me that someone could sincerely "feel" a different age to their real age. I do all the time. And we know how each age we've experienced "feels". So there can be none of the

What about patients with dementia. They are often stuck in their childhood somewhere. Way more plausible than the thinking your the opposite sex thing

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