Labour say transwomen should use the men’s toilet

[Kindersurprising]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/trans-women-men-toilets-b8gt6l22c?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHlJe7BiT-kgvjfusJpz2eq_AUSGDRI9eAMe5VNA0iX6U2qOUk-U0wPhPI98-_aem_Vfuvll1ZYKrZUa-vjh4QSA#Echobox=1745317525

Squeak squeak burrow burrow. Is that a ferret reversing?

It might make some trans women bigots. But what you really need to stop doing is assuming one person represents everyone.

So what exactly was the surgery that was so stunningly realistic?

As transwomen are MALE, and evidence proves they sexually offend at 5 times higher than so-called 'c1s' males, transwomen absolutely ARE the problem. Any male in a female space, regardless of how they 'identify', any male, is absolutely the problem.

Oh well. If you've been ok then we all will
. All this fuss for nothing eh

Through informed consent. A house is not a public toilet, hospital ward or prison cell.

I used to think this. Then Lia Thomas and others took away the medals of women athletes who had worked for years.
Course he's not a rapist so it must be ok.

You know very well I am talking about female only spaces and facilities.

All trans women are Men.

That's a fact.

No matter how sorry you feel for these men women exist and have different needs from them.

Women should not have to step aside because you feel sorry for these men.

I am not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

This is not a bigoted position, it is a protected belief and women's single sex spaces are protected by Equality laws.

We are at the Not all Men level. Scraping the bottom of the TRA barrel?

Don’t be so daft! How many trans women have you actually met?

Obviously not. You could clearly evidence it if you were shown 1000 photographs of a mix of men women and trans people. Or as I said before, in the case of my daughter where she lived next door to a trans woman for 2 years before getting to know them and finding out they’d transitioned.

what you cannot do is show someone who is determined to be right a photo of a trans woman and say “this person Is trans, can you tell”

So @Mumble12 thinks a 'few incidents' where men take advantage in a common changing room is ok but a mythical scenario where a 6 ft tall woman is barred from the ladies is deeply disturbing!

Isn't failing to acknowledge women's discomfort in the pursuit of their own desires exactly what trans women are doing when they use women's spaces?

This just all boils down to trying to plead to female socialisation.

We're bigots for not putting men first.

No. Thank. You.

This.

Firstly, it is adults who plant the idea of suicide in childrens heads. They don't know about that.

Secondly, as poll after poll after poll worldwide shows, the longer this goes on, the less support trans ideology has. Even in American the majority of Democrat voters are against transwomen being in female only spaces, per a professional poll done. Each year, YouGov has seen support for trans ideology drop. Year per year. In 20 years time, even now as trans ideology is in it's death throes, Sociologists will look back at how people were so brainwashed by a dangerous misogynistic ideology.

Maybe educate yourself

How is this relevant?

Laws are made on the basis of objective evidence, not anecdotes about how nice your trans friends are.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/aclu-attorney-confesses-transgender-suicide-claim-is-a-myth

It's a myth. A cruel, heartless, manipulative myth.

We have. All of us.
Don’t even try that one.

And I’m not sure why it’s so hard for you to understand that people have feelings and you repeatedly referring to them like they aren’t real is dehumanising and gross.

having an opinion is one thing, we could disagree on whether we think women are losing out by sharing toilets with people that have transitioned. Referring to those people as “easy to spot like fake handbags” and purposely misgendering to make yourself feel vindicated is beyond me.

If toilets were like at my workplace just a long corridor with full floor ceiling rooms each with its own toilet and sink, it wouldn't matter.

They told us ten years ago to educate ourselves.

So we did.

@Mumble12
Women want to coexist peacefully, but it doesn’t mean they should give up their rights to single sex spaces. We can treat trans people with respect, use their preferred pronouns but it does not mean we should put their wants above our needs.
Nobody feels worthless because they cannot use their chosen toilet. If they genuinely feel worthless, they should try to get to the bottom of what is making them feel so bad, because the toilet issue is just masking a deeper problem.
On the other hand, if it is just emotional manipulation’ I can’t use your toilet so I am feeling worthless, sob,sob!”Then they can jog off.

What sort of answer to my two points is that? I keep up with statistics and data, and I know transwomen are male.

Why do I need to have met a male to know how dangerous the male sex can be?