Labour say transwomen should use the men’s toilet

[Kindersurprising]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/trans-women-men-toilets-b8gt6l22c?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHlJe7BiT-kgvjfusJpz2eq_AUSGDRI9eAMe5VNA0iX6U2qOUk-U0wPhPI98-_aem_Vfuvll1ZYKrZUa-vjh4QSA#Echobox=1745317525

Squeak squeak burrow burrow. Is that a ferret reversing?

She did. She was a useful idiot and traitor to her sex and to lesbians.

Saw this and thought of MN.

You still haven't told us what they, the Tories, "could have done at any time" to protect women. Tell us, tell Labour, everybody's happy.

What do you mean by ‘lived as female’?

Why wouldn't men use the men's bathroom? 🙀

Employs hundreds. Looks nothing like a man.

😂

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Told everyone they were female, presumably.

There’s no way a man can ever have a female experience, as though womanhood was some sort of virtual reality game you can just step into.

After chocolate Hobnobs transition, are they just Hobs?

And if Rich Teas detransition they are just Rich.

that's very funny!

If they detransition do they go back to being nobs?

We don’t deny the existence of men,we just know how to categorise them, something you seem unable to accomplish. We all know they exist, but they aren’t, and never can be, women. I don’t know how or why you don’t understand that, but your opinion doesn’t supersede biological facts and the law of this country.

You have tried to bully and intimidate and hector the women on here, without originality or humour, and I really don’t wish to be rude (or maybe I do 🤪) but the paucity of your argument is a bit embarrassing for you, you haven’t come up with one single thing that cannot be immediately refuted. Mantras are just meaningless words strung together, they’re worthless. You know as well as I do, that if you are in truth a lesbian, hell will freeze over before you would enter into a sexual relationship with a TW. Because they’re men.

And yet the campaign for a person with a penis to be able to pee in a cubicle safe in the knowledge that people with vaginas were in the adjoining cubicles was the civil rights movement of the era, apparently.

You guys can't have it both ways. It's either a huge and crucial step forward for human rights, or it's a total waste of time and nobody should care, which would include you. Pick a lane.

And while you're fixated on the toilets, as you lot always are while accusing everyone else of doing just that, we'll be continuing with the rape crisis centres, changing rooms, same-sex care, spaces for religious women and all the other things that must, by logical extension, be "the most pathetic thing [you] have ever heard". Congratulations.

'have many trans friends. Every single one of them has been verbally or physically attacked at one point or another'

Thing is transpeople call using the wrong pronouns 'violence' so I do think there can be a bit of an 'attack' interpretation issue at play at times.

Any genuine verbal or physical attack is not ok. Most if not all women will have endured one or both. The 'burn the Terfs' placards being waved at the peaceful protests at the weekend an example of the attacks we endure.

This is why we need 3rd spaces . Toilets can be "men", "women" and " employers of 100s"

Isn't this just going to lead to more places forcing gender neutral toilets on us? Which is way worse in my opinion.

Workplaces and schools have to have sex segregated facilities to comply with H&S legislation.

Ooh my gender is now employshundreds gender. Awesome. I’m now a business owner.

Plus, 'gender neutral' is mixed sex - exactly what we'd have if people were permitted to self ID into 'gender' segregated spaces anyway. I'd prefer to have mixed sex than a space for 'women plus men who want to transgress women's boundaries'.

Pronouns are pro/fessional

If the aunt is non binary, why do they need to use female spaces and be referred to by a female term? (although I still don't understand how you can be non binary but identify as female, surely they would be 'them'?)

And sex is NOT a social construct ffs. You can wear or call yourself whatever you want and should be able to do so without fear of abuse, it does NOT make you biologically the opposite sex.

Not that this should matter to your relative as they're gender fluid, which I've always thought to mean you don't conform with gender stereotypes, not that you change sex.

Yes.

Men need educating regarding inclusivity and tolerance of other men who may dress differently in their toilets.

Will no one think of the …. checks notes… ‘employer of hundreds’ who should at all times be granted special privileges as they ‘don’t look like a woman’ 😂😂 I’m begging you to stop telling us these stories, they’re just so moving. I’m halfway to changing my mind now I’ve heard about the employer of hundreds.

Employer of Hundreds and Thousands.

Did anyone used to employ them on a buttered Digestive biscuit?

Digestives are definitely fucking non binary.