Trans people

[Mog65]

Firstly, I'm a trans ally

Everyone is up in arms about trans women. What seems to be forgotten these people are human beings. Where is humanity. You have probably been sharing toilets and coming into contact with trans women every day and have no idea. You only hear about the few bad ones. In a public toilet, you go into a cubical and pee. Its not like you're sat there in full public view with your knickers at your ankles.

What has been forgotten also, as many females are changing to. So trans men. So you're in hospital in a ward. The woman in the next bed, identifys as George, clit is now a penis fully working and you're in the next bed! Same person can wander around female only spaces as the law has changed. George can now only be searched by a female. By the way George a transgender man is a pervert! All hypothetical but nobody has brought this up.

Just a thought.

Quite so. That's always my first thought on arriving at Gatwick.

Yeah this is what they think being a woman is, taking your knickers off and spreading your legs. Genuinely. And iirc he was flying from London to Scotland, and dilation only needs to be done twice a day, so he had no need at all to be blocking use of the accessible toilet, because he didn't need to do it til after he got home.

(Whisper it) It's a fetish.

It’s obviously sufficient on day to day, but if we’re talking trans/non trans it just helps understand what we’re all on about

If I just say women referring to everyone in this topic it gets confusing soon enough

I have not read the thread yet, but @Mog65 you seem to have several falsehoods in your post.

One showing that perhaps you are not really well informed.

The woman in the next bed, identifies as George, clit is now a penis fully working and you're in the next bed!

No female phalloplasty is a 'fully working' penis. If someone told you it was, you mustn't believe them. Firstly they require a pump installed to simulate an erection. Secondly, they are not attached to testicles to ejaculate anything, let alone semen.

Plus the success rate is horrendous. I can get you at least one review that shows a very poor rate of success and a very high rate of very serious complications for the rest of that female person's life. Maybe George is in hospital because their phalloplasty needs further medical treatment?

But now you are also leveraging other female people to create potential fear in female people who might not understand that George is female too. Why would you do this?

Then there is this.

'In a public toilet, you go into a cubical and pee. Its not like you're sat there in full public view with your knickers at your ankles.'

Actually female people use a public toilet toilet for more than to 'pee'. Female people use toilets for much more.

And yes, actually I have had times when I have had to sit there in a public toilet in full public view with my knickers at my ankles because I had a pram / pushchair jammed in the door. My mum has had to do this too because there was a time that I had her out shopping and the disabled toilet was not available and I had to take her to the female toilets. I couldn't leave her to move her wheelchair, so there she sat with her knickers at her ankles.

Women and transwomen will cover it.

And you’re free to do that… in your own comments lol I am free to type however I see fit thankyouverymuch

You can tell in about a nanosecond whether someone is male or not.

Apparently, it is absolutely what women do. They lay on an airport toilet floor and shove a dilator into their vaginas for 20 odd minutes if I remember correctly.

On a disabled toilet floor.

Yep, the post above yours is a case in point!

I wish more women understood how many of these men have a urination fetish. It's pretty obvious from the popularity of transgender toilet porn. Women and girls are not to be offered up as wank fodder for them.

You're not free to use a slur, and cis is considered a slur here and may get you deleted. HTH.

@Helleofabore I agree, to be honest - most women will know and experience that a public toilet is far more than just to go in and out to pee. I hate mixed toilets with a passion and never feel safe in them.

Hell, I don’t even like male workers in them.

What? “Here” where? It’s a pretty common term.

No, I’m not a man, thanks.

I strongly object to the use of 'cis'. It is an unnecessary and pointless prefix that only serves to denegrade Women.

There is absolutely no need for cis.

Refer to men as men and women as women, much simpler, no issues at all.

If you really need to differentiate a 'trans identity' then 'trans identified man' should do the trick.

Well then " other " the trans women.

Here on Mumsnet.

I didn’t realise I was going to cause this much pearl clutching, jesus.

It is a meaningless term. And it forces people into false categories of philosophical belief.

Why would you use a term that was pressed into a usage that it was not created for and is a poor fit, while being false and inaccurate?

And here is some nice misogyny. Thanks

TBH, I know more transmen than transwomen.
they'd certainly cause a few shrieks & uproar if they joined the queue for the women's loos, or used a female changing room.

They always reveal themselves

If I just say women referring to everyone in this topic it gets confusing soon enough

No, it doesn't get confusing. Not in the least.

All of us on this thread know exactly what a woman is.

Even those posters who are trying to tell us that TWAW.

That they do.