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‘Adult baby’ dumping their soiled nappies at nurseries

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Peony1897 · 15/04/2025 15:17

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14609809/Adult-baby-diaper-lover-dumping-soiled-nappies-nurseries.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR4isT17l9DRFfhCfuCOID-LPbqIS-vsae81UTcA9SxXomJlcyVrfS1ZVg-lVQ_aem_ijbhBrMir7K5T02tpTJNPA#

And guess what..

Is this individual safe to be in public and around children ever again? Willing to bet this comes from the same mental place as paedophilia?! Any psychologists here who can comment? It’s one of the sickest and most bizarre things I’ve ever read!

'Adult baby diaper lover' admits dumping soiled nappies at nurseries

An 'adult diaper lover' terrorised nurseries in Newcastle by dumping soiled nappies outside the gates. Abbi Taylor, 46, also known as Martin Tarling, identities as a woman and sleeps in bins for comfort.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14609809/Adult-baby-diaper-lover-dumping-soiled-nappies-nurseries.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR4isT17l9DRFfhCfuCOID-LPbqIS-vsae81UTcA9SxXomJlcyVrfS1ZVg-lVQ_aem_ijbhBrMir7K5T02tpTJNPA#

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Helleofabore · 15/04/2025 18:32

Peony1897 · 15/04/2025 15:17

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14609809/Adult-baby-diaper-lover-dumping-soiled-nappies-nurseries.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR4isT17l9DRFfhCfuCOID-LPbqIS-vsae81UTcA9SxXomJlcyVrfS1ZVg-lVQ_aem_ijbhBrMir7K5T02tpTJNPA#

And guess what..

Is this individual safe to be in public and around children ever again? Willing to bet this comes from the same mental place as paedophilia?! Any psychologists here who can comment? It’s one of the sickest and most bizarre things I’ve ever read!

Oh OP!

I posted this on the pronouns thread last night with a question to those who had told us that we were not decent people or kind if we told 'another person that [we] understood their reality better than they understand it themselves'.

I mean it was the last page of the thread, but no answer came from the poster involved.

I think it is quite remarkable that every time we mention that if we are to accept one of someone else's philosophical belief about who they are, that we have to accept ALL their beliefs about who they are. And if we have to accept one person's belief that they are female when they are objectively, materially, male, then we have to accept all those male people who state they have the same belief.

There is no arbitrating it on a case by case scenario.

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:35

TheWorminLabyrinth · 15/04/2025 18:02

Nobody has said that. It's very easy to read back one page.

RTFT. That’s what the thread is about. It’s the same tedious, boring commentary about women’s prisons, changing rooms and “female spaces”. The OP intended it that way and none of you disappointed.

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:35

TheKeatingFive · 15/04/2025 17:41

I'm am so fucking through with a pervert like him being called a 'woman'. I knew long before I saw the picture this isn't a woman.

Zzzzz

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:37

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 15/04/2025 17:56

The Poster made a comment about boundaries being eroded and I gave a couple of example. You‘re misrepresenting other people. Your generalising is harmful and disingenuous.

Is this at me? Please, as I previously asked, link this horrific behaviour to a real world example of “boundaries being eroded”. Please show me what you mean. Demonstrate how “this is what happens”, I’m dying to see you prove causation

spannasaurus · 15/04/2025 18:38

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:35

RTFT. That’s what the thread is about. It’s the same tedious, boring commentary about women’s prisons, changing rooms and “female spaces”. The OP intended it that way and none of you disappointed.

Do you find the commentary from female prisoners about being sexually assaulted by men who are placed in womens prisons tedious and boring as well.

cocoloco23 · 15/04/2025 18:38

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/04/2025 15:46

According to the Daily Mail link he also likes snuggling down in waste bins ( clinical waste) for comfort 🙄

Jesus wept.

Helleofabore · 15/04/2025 18:42

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:37

Is this at me? Please, as I previously asked, link this horrific behaviour to a real world example of “boundaries being eroded”. Please show me what you mean. Demonstrate how “this is what happens”, I’m dying to see you prove causation

How can it be said that boundaries are NOT being eroded when this person is referred to as if they are a female?

That is the very definition of eroding the boundaries of reality.

Dramatic · 15/04/2025 18:44

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:35

RTFT. That’s what the thread is about. It’s the same tedious, boring commentary about women’s prisons, changing rooms and “female spaces”. The OP intended it that way and none of you disappointed.

What's tedious about that?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 15/04/2025 18:48

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:37

Is this at me? Please, as I previously asked, link this horrific behaviour to a real world example of “boundaries being eroded”. Please show me what you mean. Demonstrate how “this is what happens”, I’m dying to see you prove causation

Referring to this piece of shit as a woman. Having him recorded on police systems as a woman skewing stats and figures. A male potentially being placed in a women’s prison (that you find so tedious and boring so the bins are that way for you) because they’re allowed to self identify as something they’re not. That erodes my boundaries, being put in the same category as this male. This male saying he’s in the same sex class as me. The people who champion this nonsense can also fuck right off.

Someone could literally post ‘saw a trans person today’ and you’d be all ‘oh my God you don’t want trans people to exist!!’.

From what’s been posted on this thread, ‘this’ is what’s bothered you?

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 15/04/2025 18:51

@DaphneduMaureen you haven’t disappointed either with yr faux naïveté and goady posts. Not in good faith, methinks.

dogsandcatsandhorses · 15/04/2025 19:01

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 15/04/2025 16:51

I am also concerned about the woman he is “helping”. Disabled woman can be so vulnerable...

I thought the same. I hope SS have looked into it. One news report said he is in a relationship with a woman he is “helping”…….,,

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 15/04/2025 19:06

dogsandcatsandhorses · 15/04/2025 19:01

I thought the same. I hope SS have looked into it. One news report said he is in a relationship with a woman he is “helping”…….,,

Well, exactly.

cramptramp · 15/04/2025 19:07

He’s a disgusting pervert.

Floogal · 15/04/2025 19:14

I like to think I'm tolerant and liberal. But, there really are some horrid and inconceivable kinks.

heathspeedwell · 15/04/2025 19:15

It's not 2018 any more. There was a time when we naively thought that it was kind to pretend that men who identify as women are women. But now we have years of evidence to demonstrate that men who identify as women, as a class, show male patterns of behaviour.

Over 70% of transwomen who are currently incarcerated in the UK have convictions for sex crimes or extremely violent crime. In contrast only 3% of women have convictions for sex crimes.

It's a sad fact that men, however they identify, are more violent as a class than women. Obviously not all men and not all transwomen are violent, but what more proof do we need that men, however they identify, do not belong in spaces reserved for women.

heathspeedwell · 15/04/2025 19:16

From the Telegraph:
"More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners in British jails are serving sentences for sex offences and violent crimes, government figures have revealed.
At least 181 of the 244 transgender inmates, more than 74 per cent, are in jail for crimes including rape, forcing under-age children into having sex, grievous bodily harm and robbery."

heathspeedwell · 15/04/2025 19:19

Here's the link to the article. To be clear, this is the official government figures - it's not just a study or an opinion - it's unequivocal fact about the men who identify as women in our prisons.

More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners are in for sex offences or violent crimes

Lolapusht · 15/04/2025 19:32

For anyone not familiar with these things, this guy falls under the + in LGBQTIA+. Maybe also the Q and the T.

This is what the LGB is being force-teamed with.

Yes, not all trans identifying people, but how are we meant to know?

I do not want the nappy wearing, medical waste hugging, nappy wearing pervert in SSS.

EnfysPreseli · 15/04/2025 19:34

cramptramp · 15/04/2025 19:07

He’s a disgusting pervert.

Sadly the response to this in some circles would be "Stop kink shaming, you bigot!"

I know I'm guilty of this too, but somehow we've allowed ourselves to become cowed about calling out the unacceptable and asserting boundaries. We're even being gaslit into denying reality in order to "be kind". Facts are just facts, it's ridiculous that pointing out the truth is being policed by a tiny, ill-informed minority who claim it is hateful or phobic. Being prepared to pretend you believe things which are patently untrue in order to appear cool, kind, sophisticated or inclusive doesn't make you a good person.

The erosion of boundaries, the bending of truth and attempting to defend the indefensible isn't new. It's ended badly before and it's going to end badly this time.

Screamingabdabz · 15/04/2025 19:37

viques · 15/04/2025 16:23

Yes I knew what you meant. But a lot of people get very confused about the difference between gender and sex. Not least because certain groups like to confuse the issue because it suits their agenda to make what is something actually very simple, and fixed, appear not to be.

Gender is a social construct, you can call yourself any gender or gender variant you want, but it doesn’t change your sex.

Sex is biological, fixed at conception, we are mammals so for us ( like the overwhelming majority of life forms on our planet) sex is binary, you are either male or female. Ask Professor Lord Robert Winston, he is very clear about this!

So I think it is important to be very clear what is meant when the words gender and sex are used descriptively, they are not interchangeable.

( The nonsense about “intersex” needs mentioning too, when people with indeterminate external genitalia (DSD) are examined on a cellular level they are found to have XX or XY chromosomes. If there is a Y in the mix then however much you might not want to be , you are biologically male. There are a whole heap of chromosomal differences, many of which are extremely rare, but by and large this is the way it works. )

Edited

See I totally disagree. There is no such thing as gender. It is a social construct with no clear definition so I think we should use it interchangeably with biological sex. We need to reclaim it from this fantasyland of ‘gender identity’ and double down that gender and sex relate to the same thing. The binary - male and female.

Themaghag · 15/04/2025 19:37

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 17:34

Can you give an example where that is true?

Yes. The fact that choking and anal sex are now considered to be everyday sexual activities as is various forms of 'rough' sex. Violent porn is now so widely viewed that it is redefining sexual norms much to the detriment of young women, many of whom feel they have to go along with it.

Daleksatemyshed · 15/04/2025 19:38

To me the trans identity is a smokescreen, people like this weirdo have worked out that they can hide behind the trans rights agenda, then when they're arrested for their excesses they can say they're fragile and only trying to be their authentic self. The trans activists have painted them all into a corner, if saying they're female is enough then they have to accept all the people who say their authentic self is a furry, a child abuser or someone obsessed with nappies.
Some small, very small, part of me feels sorry for this strange little man whose not capable of seeing past their own sexual hangups but I'm much, much more sorry for the people who have to deal with him.
I'm sure there are trans identifying people out there reading the DM who are upset and disgusted that this man is suggesting he's just like them

Helleofabore · 15/04/2025 19:40

DaphneduMaureen · 15/04/2025 18:37

Is this at me? Please, as I previously asked, link this horrific behaviour to a real world example of “boundaries being eroded”. Please show me what you mean. Demonstrate how “this is what happens”, I’m dying to see you prove causation

In addition to society, court and media being coerced into acting as if this was a female.

If the woman this male person asked for a ‘same sex’ carer (and I don’t know these details at all, this is discussing it as a hypothetical), then this is a direct boundaries breach. A significant breach at that.

BlossomBlanket · 15/04/2025 19:41

YouFetidMoppet · 15/04/2025 15:30

Surely theres a chance these people get a kick out of being named and shamed online though? You can't always assume they would be ashamed. It always worries me that threads like this give weirdos like that attention.

Only in a society as permissive as this would they get their kicks from being named. In many societies throughout the world they'd feel the cold chills of knowing they were going to get their head kicked in. I'm definitely not suggesting I agree with violence like that, I'm just wondering.

BelfastBard · 15/04/2025 19:42

Peony1897 · 15/04/2025 17:36

I don’t read the DM but saw this in my news feed on FB so clicked on it. It’s reported elsewhere. I think some of the lefter leaning papers are under pressure not to ‘draw too much attention’ to these cases.

I’m willing bet this is a far bigger problem than only the individuals reported on. They’re reported on as they’re actively engaging in the behaviour but I’m willing to bet there is a seedy underworld where many men enjoy videos etc of these behaviours because they’re not at the stage of dipping their own toes in.

There is. I’m sure there are darker corners of the internet but there are numerous Reddit subs devoted to these “adult baby diaper lovers”. It’s utterly utterly depraved. And there are tens of thousands of them there alone. With a huge crossover over trans identified males also sharing the “diaper fetish”.