Gender and pronouns

[Wyki]

Before I start, the daily mail and other papers can all fuck off

I’m prepared to be flamed for this as I’ve been here long enough to know how it all works but….

aibu to tell my son he can’t have his partner over any more

It’s a new relationship. My son is 21 and the new partner is 18

He barely works and is consequently on a low salary however he does help me with childcare (that I pay a minimal amount for)

the new partner is a very petite pink haired “girl” that does ballet and dance but uses the pronoun he/him

my 11 year old daughter is finding it confusing and asked if her brother is gay. I replied with “no because the partner is very feminine and is a girl despite the pronouns” (I couldn’t care less if he was gay, sexuality isn’t important)

So am I being unreasonable in saying the partner doesn’t come over as it’s just too weird and I don’t want that example being set for my daughter

Oh so you must be a gender critical feminist as well …

goodness, who knew!

It's one of the most obvious reasons - and there are many reasons - why a woman might not want to encounter a man in the women's toilets when she is feeling vulnerable and in need of privacy.

Thanks to trans activists, women no longer have that right to privacy because any man can now enter any women's toilet any time he likes for any reason he likes.

Including men who have fetishes about lactation and menstruation.

So you agree with schizophrenics that they are the second coming of Jesus, and you tell anorexics that they are indeed fat and yeah that lipo they are thinking of getting is not a bad idea....
do you? Eh?

I see. Good to know that you really are not well informed on these topics.

I couldn't give a rats arse who they are.

When it comes to single sex spaces, what matters is what sex they are.

Trans women's sex is male.

😁

Exactly. As I said upthread we do not treat anorexics by giving them weight loss jabs FFS. Medical professionals don't indulge their delusions.

Great to see the TRAs have descended to insults. When you have no valid argument, that is all there is left.

There IS no valid argument for putting the wishes of men / or male people if you deny reality above the needs of women.

Unless you see men/ male people as superior to women.

No this is just an emotionally manipulative plea that is not based on objective reality.

And how is it we are told that people with transgender identities never deny their sex but are you telling us that talking about sex is telling them who they are?

So, are they or are they not denying the sex their body is?

I see this thread is giving MNHQ an evening workout!

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/soiled-nappies-dumped-south-tyneside-31420646

So we should believe this male person is female AND an infant ?

What was that about objective reality vs the reality you wish us to support ?

I think it should stay.

It shows the vitriol that comes from transphobic people.

Operation Let Them Speak.

How does established science about human sex categories on the 'objective' test with no credible replacement for that science?

How is believing that someone's body can be categorised into one of two reproductive roles (regardless of whether the gametes associated with that reproductive role can, is or will be produced by that body) not 'objective'?

And how is it being 'decent' to expect a person to support what now has been shown to be only the philosophical belief held by a group of people who say that they are transgender over their own understanding of science and fact?

And can you please link us up to the evidence that supports that a person who has a transgender identity cannot have their sex easily identified ?

And while you are at it, I believe you had evidence to prove Dr Hillary Cass was wrong in her report? Have you sent her the studies she missed? What about all those other countries that you also claim missed the evidence? Have you sent them the evidence they missed?

That poster was on your team. HTH.

Operation let them speak indeed.

You just like to appropriate everything don’t you.

Operation let them speak is to let the full and ridiculous extent of gender ideology and ‘choosing your own reality’ see daylight so the secrets and lies are exposed.

People can’t change sex. End of.

OP, I’m sure you have a degree of sympathy for this girl as she is probably as much of a victim of this ideology as anyone.

We have lost all the ground we gained in the 70s/80s/90s with freedom around what we wore and how we did our hair and now personal preferences are weaponised and used to convince vulnerable kids they are ‘in the wrong body’ and need to ruin their health and fertility in order to be happy.

Utter cruelty.

What team would that be then?

Nice use of the laughing emoji to mock me there btw.

You lot like to claim that is abusive and only the TRAs would sink so low!

I would assume the one that calls people who think that women's single sex spaces are important transphobic.

The one that thinks that the feelings and validation of males who identify as trans is more important than the needs and consent of women.

The TRAs.

Do I?

You don't even know who I am.

I'm not a TRA. But carry on using you favourite insult for anyone who disagrees with you👍

I really don't think you know what you're talking about if you think that someone who calls a young lady a strong of expletives for choosing non feminine pronouns for herself is a TRA.

Let me guess. You’re a regular here.

OP

I hope you feel you have some understanding on how you should address this situation. Of course, it is difficult. There are so many people who will tell you that you need to respect this person and therefore use the language that this persons demands others to use. Language that doesn’t reflect the objective reality of their sex.

No one should expect others to comply to their philosophical belief about themselves. And despite assurances, with no evidence presented at all, the only commonality within the group of people who say they are transgender is this belief about themselves.

Whether you do use that language as demanded or not, at least you should (and seem to be on your way to) make the decision after considering all angles and not just because someone thinks you should be ‘kind’.