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45k salary entirely eaten by childcare

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Sofiewoo · 08/04/2025 07:34

Granted salaries aren’t what they were only a handful of years ago but aibu to be shocked that my 45k salary is now entirely eaten by childcare and getting to work??
I figured if you are earning in the 20s you would assume that but not mid 40s!

I’m trying to weigh up whether to just take the next year and a half off instead of working for nothing. I know, pension, career blah blah but it’s mentally very difficult to juggle drop offs, work schedules and sickness but be no better off financially at the end of the month.

Did anyone else not realise it was a bad as this?

OP posts:
Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 21:58

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 21:56

Yep. What's happy about hearing your parents stress and argue over paying the bills?

With my mum it was more that she was really bored being a SAHM and very snappy. She was however very judgemental of working mums and loved to say how she ‘put us first’. Well I wish she hadn’t bothered as she was spiteful, stressy and constantly reminded us what she gave up ‘for us’

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 21:58

Surferosa · 13/04/2025 21:53

Your hypocrisy is breath taking. Sitting berating working mums when yourself were one when your children were little. The very period of time you've sat guilt tripping working mums about.

You've said your kids are at school and then activities after school which your husband takes them too. So you're not spending that much more time with then than a working parent does. And how is a nursery worker, childminder or nanny any less than a stranger than a teacher.

And you are aware that not all working mums have designer handbags and heels. How come it's always woman that are always made out that their wages go on meaningless extras yet a a man's wage doesn't? Sexism at its absolute finest.

I worked 2 days a week for a few months to honour my maternity leave. Hardly the same as years of working full time and using nurseries etc. I’ve never used a nursery.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 21:58

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 21:55

I’m sure I will initially, it’s a common thing, it’s called empty nest syndrome. Just because I’m a dedicated mum doesn’t mean I don’t want them to be independent and go on to do what makes them happy in their lives etc. I just want them to know I’ve always put them first and I’ll always be there for them ❤️

You haven't always put them first if you worked. Not according to yourself anyway.

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 22:00

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 21:42

6.5 hours? What about commuting? What about holidays and sick days? I’m there for every holiday, no childcare worries or dumping my children on other people. They’re my responsibility.

You literally work for no financial benefit
I mean where’s the sense in that?

You sound very angry.

Whenever posters say ‘you sound very angry’ more often than not, the poster they’re referring to doesn’t sound angry at all. It’s so odd.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:00

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 21:58

I worked 2 days a week for a few months to honour my maternity leave. Hardly the same as years of working full time and using nurseries etc. I’ve never used a nursery.

Your kids go to school and you let strangers raise them all the same though.

Needspaceforlego · 13/04/2025 22:00

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 21:51

This.

I don’t get the whole ‘BUT YOUR PENSION’ thing. Firstly who thinks working for 50 years so you might get to choose your nursing home at the end is a good payoff?!

Secondly those who have never worked will get the lot for free anyway (and everyone on here will support that)

Agreed.
There's also a shocking statistics that nearly one in three stop work because of ill health BEFORE state retirement age.

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 22:01

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 21:58

I worked 2 days a week for a few months to honour my maternity leave. Hardly the same as years of working full time and using nurseries etc. I’ve never used a nursery.

You sound quite insecure as a mother tbh

Like lots of reassurance needed

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:02

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 21:55

My mum was a SAHM and she was utterly miserable. Wish she’d worked tbh and we’d had a bit less, but happier, time together.

Yes, it would drive some women to distraction to be at home all day so I’m not surprised to hear that, how could anyone be a good mother feeling that way, I think a lot of mothers are better mothers for going out to work, they have a sense of satisfaction at the end of their day.
Most working mothers are fantastic multi taskers who are capable of working AND raising happy, well adjusted intelligent children

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 22:04

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:02

Yes, it would drive some women to distraction to be at home all day so I’m not surprised to hear that, how could anyone be a good mother feeling that way, I think a lot of mothers are better mothers for going out to work, they have a sense of satisfaction at the end of their day.
Most working mothers are fantastic multi taskers who are capable of working AND raising happy, well adjusted intelligent children

People forget it’s not actually ever been the norm for kids to stay at home with just 1 adult giving them undivided attention all day. Being raised among other children and caregivers was the norm for a very very long time, as humans lived in communities.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:04

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:02

Yes, it would drive some women to distraction to be at home all day so I’m not surprised to hear that, how could anyone be a good mother feeling that way, I think a lot of mothers are better mothers for going out to work, they have a sense of satisfaction at the end of their day.
Most working mothers are fantastic multi taskers who are capable of working AND raising happy, well adjusted intelligent children

Exactly.

I always say that working makes me a better mother.

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:04

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:00

Your kids go to school and you let strangers raise them all the same though.

I see she STILL hasn’t answered this question even after you have prompted her a few times
She obviously can’t 😂

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:05

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 22:01

You sound quite insecure as a mother tbh

Like lots of reassurance needed

Honestly not at all - I’ve been slated here all day and still very confident in my life decisions as a mum.

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:06

Peony1897 · 13/04/2025 22:04

People forget it’s not actually ever been the norm for kids to stay at home with just 1 adult giving them undivided attention all day. Being raised among other children and caregivers was the norm for a very very long time, as humans lived in communities.

Many kids I know run into nursery in the morning they are so thrilled to be there, they thrive amongst the other kids and it’s great for their social skills and confidence

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:07

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:02

Yes, it would drive some women to distraction to be at home all day so I’m not surprised to hear that, how could anyone be a good mother feeling that way, I think a lot of mothers are better mothers for going out to work, they have a sense of satisfaction at the end of their day.
Most working mothers are fantastic multi taskers who are capable of working AND raising happy, well adjusted intelligent children

My sense of satisfaction comes from spending time with my children. What’s so wrong with that?

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:07

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:05

Honestly not at all - I’ve been slated here all day and still very confident in my life decisions as a mum.

You've only been slated because you have slated working mothers. You can't seem to take any criticism without crying that you're being bullied but are quite happy to insult working mothers and then seem surprised when they respond.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:08

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:07

My sense of satisfaction comes from spending time with my children. What’s so wrong with that?

Nothing.

What's wrong is all of the insulting comments you've made about working mothers.

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:09

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:07

My sense of satisfaction comes from spending time with my children. What’s so wrong with that?

But your children seem to be in school for most of the day so you don’t actually see them much more than a working mother😂?

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:10

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:07

You've only been slated because you have slated working mothers. You can't seem to take any criticism without crying that you're being bullied but are quite happy to insult working mothers and then seem surprised when they respond.

I mean none of that is true.
There have been a handful of you all bombarding me because I have a different view to yours but it’s to be expected with some people some times nowadays - safety in numbers and all

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:11

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:10

I mean none of that is true.
There have been a handful of you all bombarding me because I have a different view to yours but it’s to be expected with some people some times nowadays - safety in numbers and all

Of course it's true.

Your views are insulting to working mothers. Again, you seem surprised that people are going to rightly respond to them.

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:12

StrangerThings1 · 13/04/2025 22:09

But your children seem to be in school for most of the day so you don’t actually see them much more than a working mother😂?

Edited

I have two school age children and one still at home. It’s very different sending a 4-5 year old to school to dropping off your 9 month old off to a nursery to work full time.

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:13

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:11

Of course it's true.

Your views are insulting to working mothers. Again, you seem surprised that people are going to rightly respond to them.

Not surprised at all 😊

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:13

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:12

I have two school age children and one still at home. It’s very different sending a 4-5 year old to school to dropping off your 9 month old off to a nursery to work full time.

So your children only matter until they are 4-5 and you palm them off to strangers at school?

Why don't you homeschool instead of letting strangers raise them at school?

whatkatydid2014 · 13/04/2025 22:15

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:10

I mean none of that is true.
There have been a handful of you all bombarding me because I have a different view to yours but it’s to be expected with some people some times nowadays - safety in numbers and all

Well in fairness it is true you’ve been pretty abrasive and unpleasant about working parents and what they are doing wrong in some of your posts. I don’t think it’s constructive to retaliate and I think having the set up where one parent works from home can be really advantageous for some families. I just (hopefully politely) disagree that it’s the only model that works well and results in secure, happy, emotionally stable kids.

Didimum · 13/04/2025 22:15

At the end of the day, only very unhappy people find the time to come on the internet and disparage their fellow women for their choices, the ways @AmeliaRuby has (because let’s face it, she’s not insulting working fathers).

She clearly has an incredibly hard time accepting happy, independent women. Maybe because she’s annoyed that many women prove her wrong and she doesn’t like that, maybe because she’s unhappy in her marriage, or maybe she was brought up badly by her own parents. Whatever it is, it screams resentment in some way, and it’s incredibly sad. I hope she finds a way to tolerance and respect for other parents she encounters in life.

I also hope she finds a way to stop suggesting women fancy her husband and being weirdly preoccupied with expensive handbags.

AmeliaRuby · 13/04/2025 22:16

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/04/2025 22:13

So your children only matter until they are 4-5 and you palm them off to strangers at school?

Why don't you homeschool instead of letting strangers raise them at school?

Edited

They are being taught a curriculum in school. It’s a legal requirement. Last time I checked that wasn’t the case for babies in nurseries 😂

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