To ask a parent to move their buggy from a café so I can sit down?

[TheUmberFawn]

Went to a busy café at lunchtime. One table was occupied by a mum with a large pram taking up the space of two chairs. There were no other free tables, so I asked politely if she could move it so I could sit. She gave me a dirty look and mumbled something about needing space. I get that babies come with stuff but why should that mean no one else can sit? AIBU for asking?

Did you ask if she was happy to share the table?

Or, did you ask if she could move her pram so you could sit down?

One if polite, the other presumes that you already have permission to sit down and doesn’t actually check it’s ok with her. Rude.

I don’t ask to share a table if there aren’t any seats. It’s her table. You were being unreasonable.

And yet you sound absolutely lovely 😂 why ask for opinions on here then, if 80% of people are insufferable?

YABU and your replies are insane

A baby isn't like a bag or a coat taking up a seat.
Why did you think to could ask her to move her baby, was it because the seat wasn't being used, even though the space was occupied?

Would you ask a wheelchair user to move?

What if the baby had been in a highchair?

Btw one wants to fold down a pram in a busy cafe!

Your knickers are tucked into your skirt.

She didn't ask anyone to "shove their baby" out of the way.

It's not entitled to ask someone to create space if they are taking up space unecessarily.
That applies in a cafe, just as it does in a bus or anywhere else for that matter.

OP for me there isn't really enough information in your original post to make a call.

If a person was in a wheelchair would you think it ok for that person to ask for the pram to be moved?

Would you think it was ok to ask for a person in a wheelchair to be moved?

What’s wrong with you, sounds like you’re the one not getting a good fuck!

Even if you said ‘please can you move your pram so I can sit down’, it’s still rude. It’s pressuring her to move the buggy.

where was the baby at this point? Presumably in the buggy as you say you didn’t see how old they were and they weren’t already in a highchair. Sometimes it’s easier to keep a baby in a buggy if they are settled. Did you ask with aim to disturb the baby too?

where could she move the buggy to if it was busy? Half way across the cafe, making it difficult for her? It doesn’t sound like she was taking up excessive space.

You should’ve found somewhere else imo and not ordered anything if there was no space for you

I think you were very unreasonable and I’ve just had a jolly good fuck 😂

Read again - The person in the wheelchair asks for the PRAM to be moved. Whatcha think?

I read it just fine.

So what are your thoughts?

What a strange response purely because people disagree and are saying shes BU 😂

Well that escalated quickly! 🙈😂😂😂

Being in a wheelchair wouldn’t entitle the person to share the table though. The pram wasn’t preventing the op / hypothetical wheelchair user from accessing an empty table. It was preventing them from joining the lady and her baby.

My thoughts are that there clearly aren’t any bloody tables spare so why is the person being asked to move up a lone woman with a baby and all the stuff being out with a baby entails.

Unless it’s beer hall style dining, it’s rude. You can be in a wheelchair with manners (my relatives certainly manage). OP is neither though so it’s irrelevant. My point stands. You wouldn’t ask a person in a wheelchair to move so you can join their friend at a 2 person table, so don’t ask someone who has a child with them.

OP she was a lot more polite with you than I would have been.

Tbh if you’d asked I would have said no too, the baby is irrelevant, at the end of the day she was there first whether or not she was at a table for 2. Perhaps that’s all that was available when she arrived…. There’s no expectation to share a table with a stranger. It’s always been first come first serve, I personally wouldn’t even entertain the idea of asking a stranger to sit at a table they were occupying. Not to mention to a lot of people it’s awkward.

Fancy that - you’d block a chair space to prevent a wheelchair user from being able to access a table. Have a think about that.

She said she didn't demand - she asked.

I wouldn’t want to share my table for two, (being used by 2 people) with a third stranger, no. Wheelchair or not.

This isn’t what happened. Are you off your meds?

There are no tables free. Having a disability doesn’t entitle you to claim someone’s table.

This thread is wild.

I also don’t understand why people think you could just collapse a pram.

If the baby wasn’t in the pram it would be in a highchair taking up a chair space.

A folded up pram usually still takes up loads of room with the changing bag etc. Mine does anyway.