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To be upset DS is going to double barrel his surname when he gets married?

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MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

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DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:29

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 08:03

That’s not how it’s done in Spain. In Spain there is a clear system which make family trees possible. Choosing one name is hurtful, especially wrt divorce etc. there needs to be a system that a culture follows.

Why does there need to be a system that a culture follows? What do you think will happen to society if people choose their surnames as they like?

MayaPinion · 06/04/2025 08:29

😂😂😂 You’re hilarious. If this is what you’re like now what are you going to be like when they don’t want to come for Christmas, call their babies names you don’t like, buy a house you don’t like, wear clothes you don’t like, etc. etc.? You’re in for a long hard stint of MILhood if you’re like this at the outset. It’s nothing to do with you and there’s nothing you can or should want to do to change it.

Parker231 · 06/04/2025 08:29

TizerorFizz · 06/04/2025 08:24

It’s just easier to keep your own names.

Blending them? Oh no. That might produce a lot of laughs at the possibilities. If you are attached to a family name, keep it for yourself. It’s well past double barreling now. Done to death and it’s definitely a class thing.

Double barrelled surnames are becoming the norm. At a school I was a Governor at about half the children (central London school) had married parents but with double barrelled surnames. Can’t work out your comment about class.

Why would you only give your children a surname from one side of the family. Seems very disrespectful to me.

FortyElephants · 06/04/2025 08:30

Parker231 · 06/04/2025 08:26

Totally wrong. We have been married nearly 30 years. Both kept our own surnames and double barrelled for DT’s to honour both families. I can’t imagine why you would cut one side of the family out of your DC’s history.

My DSis and DSil have done the same as have many friends.

Maybe read the post I was replying to before disagreeing with me? Your answer seems meant for a different post TBH

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/04/2025 08:30

People will have a little snigger if it's really long and clunky, and the school will refer to any children as Talullah G-W, rather than saying the whole name, but it's not a biggie.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:31

TizerorFizz · 06/04/2025 08:04

What happens in the future when DS offspring meets someone with an equally long name? Have 4 names as no one’s prepared to compromise? Where does it end. It’s over done these days and generally not done by upper class folk any more. If it wasn’t done 100 years ago, at least, it’s now considered a bit unnecessary and showy. Most women just keep their own name at work. Lots of people did use the woman’s maiden name as a middle name for a baby but it wasn’t used every day. My DF had this.

The op will just have to put up with it.

It is indeed still done by upper class folk.

pelargoniums · 06/04/2025 08:32

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:22

I guess we'll all just work it out without too much hand-wringing. Thank God for the human brain and its ability to think through what to do in various situations.

Does your brain have the space to work it out, even with the torment of trying to trace your family ancestry and fill in forms and apply for a passport? Impressive!

Riaanna · 06/04/2025 08:33

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 01:00

To be fair, I am not horrified, I think that’s just their generation. I don’t think him just taking her surname is fair and nor do I think DS would want to completely lose his. I am nice to her! I am not sure how it’s come to the conclusion I’m awful to her just because I think the surname will be a pain for everyone and living to regret something like that isn’t ideal. He would do absolutely anything for her and I truly believe he would compromise what he wants/his happiness for hers and as much as it’s how it should be with regards to him doing anything for her, I don’t think he should give up on everything he cares about

How would you feel if they both kept their own names and future grandchildren had her name only?

mumuseli · 06/04/2025 08:33

You should be proud that your son is going against the patriarchy!

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:33

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 08:06

Right so you and your siblings manage just fine and therefore the entire concept is fine? Okey dokey. So what’s the system? What do your children do wrt surnames? Or is it a chaotic mess where one person chooses x and another chooses y and the ability of future generations to trace history is ridiculously hampered by self regarding individualism

You sound unhinged. Why is people choosing their surnames a "chaotic mess"? You would do well to calm down about this.

Bikergran · 06/04/2025 08:35

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

None of your business. He could legally change his name to anything he wants, be grateful it isn't something like p'tang p'tang scuttlebrush!!

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:36

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 08:07

Could you possibly name this culture? I want to see how their family trees work out?

I guess for most of us, we wouldn't prioritise facilitating some fanatic's ability to more easily make a family tree diagram over our own wants and desires. Why would we? Your desire to make family trees dioramas is a you problem.

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 06/04/2025 08:37

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:39

arcticpandas · 06/04/2025 08:18

It's longer to write out and harder to memorise for people. For me that was the most important factor. But then I'm not attached to my surname so it wasn't a problem. For someone attached to their surname I understand chosing to have double names.

I don't work with or frequently encounter people who are so cognitively impaired that they can't "memorise" my surname because it is double-barrelled. Is this generally an issue for you? Are you alright?

Enko · 06/04/2025 08:40

So something like Lockworth-Williamsen?

I think that sounds solid and nice. People get to het up about stuff being "hard" so you have a life time of spelling. I have a first name you need to spell when I married dh with a fairly common Scotish surname I was thinking ok I wont have to spell that.. I do people come up with the. Most insane spellings

The children have a family surname as a middlename (think like the names about but no hyphen) and then their surname. This has caused issues as many think the middle name is a surname. Yet dh at age 60 have never once had this as a issue (he also has this name)

You just can't sort it so nothing happens.

pelargoniums · 06/04/2025 08:40

Maybe due to all this anarchic naming chaos someone will invent an ancestry-tracing system or two, something easily searchable; though of course for ease they’d also need to invent, and make widely available, both computers and some sort of worldwide web to connect them all, to ensure the family tree systems could be used. I guess until then, women should put up and shut up and take their husband’s name. Because won’t somebody think of the children!

Keepingthingsinteresting · 06/04/2025 08:41

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 01:10

Because I like to think of my son and his life and future children he’s spoken about wanting? Is that really so mind boggling? I am just relaxing on a Saturday night and wanted to casually ask on a forum I like to scroll, where plenty of other not majorly serious threads are posted, especially on AIBU. It’s just out of interest. I completely understand the comparison on how if I don’t think it’s right his name isn’t used, then why should the same feelings not be used for hers but there’s no denying the majority do accept their names get given up, every marriage on both sides has followed the traditional way, so I do think it’s fair to say it’s slightly different for her to give it up vs DS. Obviously this wasn’t the most useful of threads, I didn’t expect everyone to feel so incredibly strongly about this from the opposite perspective. My bad

No, giving up her name is a misogynistic trope from when women were property to transfer and attach your tag to. Other countries manage this fine, see Spain for example. Keep your nose out and be glad you’ve raised a decent young man.

MummyRenX · 06/04/2025 08:42

I don’t see how the length of his name would affect you or the “horrified grandparents” at all? Honestly please do not be that mother in law because when the time comes for them to have children you’re going to realise that your opinion on things is just not going to be a factor when it comes to them making decisions. You might not love his new name but keep it to yourself, you’ll only push yourself away from them by criticising the way they choose to live their lives.

TheGentleOpalMember · 06/04/2025 08:44

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:33

You sound unhinged. Why is people choosing their surnames a "chaotic mess"? You would do well to calm down about this.

You are the one sounding unhinged on this thread. You're very obsessive. You've posted around 20 times on this thread, and mostly to ask ridiculous questions about things that shouldn't need to be explained to you if you had a decent amount of brainpower.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:44

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/04/2025 08:30

People will have a little snigger if it's really long and clunky, and the school will refer to any children as Talullah G-W, rather than saying the whole name, but it's not a biggie.

Do you really know people who snigger at other people's names? How vile.

Parker231 · 06/04/2025 08:45

pelargoniums · 06/04/2025 08:32

Does your brain have the space to work it out, even with the torment of trying to trace your family ancestry and fill in forms and apply for a passport? Impressive!

DT’s have dual nationality and two passports. Even with their very long double barrelled surname neither country has had any issues in supplying them with passports, ID cards and drivers licenses.

KarmenPQZ · 06/04/2025 08:46

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

You’re being 100% ridicolous

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:47

TheGentleOpalMember · 06/04/2025 08:44

You are the one sounding unhinged on this thread. You're very obsessive. You've posted around 20 times on this thread, and mostly to ask ridiculous questions about things that shouldn't need to be explained to you if you had a decent amount of brainpower.

Ah, you've misunderstood the concept of rhetorical questioning. Makes sense.

TheGentleOpalMember · 06/04/2025 08:47

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:47

Ah, you've misunderstood the concept of rhetorical questioning. Makes sense.

And you're still going. Unhinged.

1apenny2apenny · 06/04/2025 08:48

Of course people are interested in decisions their children make however they are their decisions presumably based on their experiences/wants/needs etc.

If this was my DS I would be happy that I had raised a man who is open and ‘modern’. I would also be very pleased that he had chosen a woman who was assertive, confident and didnt spout rubbish such as ‘I dont like my surname anyway’. Hopefully she’s also not becoming a ‘Mrs’! Tbh I will be secretly disappointed if my DD changes her name if she gets married.

My view in this is that the easiest thing is for each party to keep their name as it is - then no-one has to change passport, bank accounts etc. This changing name stuff wouldn’t have lasted 2 minutes if men had all the faff and inconvenience of doing all the paperwork. That said they probably should discuss what name any children should have though.