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To think that parents who don’t control their kids in public deserve public shaming?

205 replies

MyEdgyAmberZebra · 02/04/2025 22:08

If your child is throwing a screaming tantrum in a restaurant, I shouldn’t have to “be understanding” - I should be able to tell you to sort it out.

OP posts:
Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 17:03

chocolatemademefat · 03/04/2025 16:13

If I’m paying money in a restaurant I don’t want to listen to a child in a tantrum. Take them out. Stop coming up with feeble excuses as to why you can’t. If the place was on fire you’d soon move. Why do some parents think their kids are so special that we all have to put up with their awful behaviour? Shift.

Why do you think you’re so special that you never have to put up with any inconveniences whatsoever?

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:08

Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 17:03

Why do you think you’re so special that you never have to put up with any inconveniences whatsoever?

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Disruption and noise in a nice restaurant is more than "inconvenience." Why do parents think they get to ruin others' outings?

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:10

Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 17:01

I wish many adults would stay at home rather then inflict themselves on me in public spaces, but we live in a world with other people unfortunately.

yes people chose to have children, they didn’t choose to be isolated from society for 10 years. Other countries, especially in and around Mediterranean are much more accepting of kids in general.

children exist, bad parents exist, if you don’t want to encounter either perhaps you ought to stay home. Or buy some expensive headphones.

Ten years? If they can't produce a well-behaved child by the time it's five years old, they shouldn't become parents.

Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 17:14

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:08

Disruption and noise in a nice restaurant is more than "inconvenience." Why do parents think they get to ruin others' outings?

Most parents don’t. It’s disingenuous to claim that parents don’t care. The vast majority do and are doing their best. You must be exceptionally unlucky to encounter so many disruptive children in your fancy restaurants. I rarely do. I come across more boorish and disruptive adults.

i thought the real issue of this thread was the minority of parents who really don’t care what’s happening with their kids and abdicate any responsibility. In which case, the answer isn’t public shaming. But you crack on if that’s what compels you.

Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 17:16

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:10

Ten years? If they can't produce a well-behaved child by the time it's five years old, they shouldn't become parents.

Shouldn’t they? Oh dear. Does the hospital accept returns?

im sure you equally frown upon kids on screens out in public as well. I think the solution might be mind your own business and try to enjoy the company you’re with.

Neemie · 03/04/2025 17:16

I eat out a lot and I have never been in a restaurant where a child is having a screaming tantrum that the parents don’t swiftly sort out.

You need to go to ‘well behaved children welcome’ places, rather than ‘family friendly’. You aren’t choosing your restaurants wisely.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2025 17:18

Put them in the stocks on a Friday evening and pelt them with rotten veg.

That'd sort out the problem quick.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 03/04/2025 17:25

Writerbiter · 02/04/2025 22:20

I keep a massive bell in my bag at all times just so I can ring it every time I see disobedience from children or insufficient control from parents.

🤣👌

Mnn · 03/04/2025 17:32

Stagshear · 03/04/2025 16:49

Then you shouldn’t be going to discretionary public places like cafes and restaurants. If you can’t manage your kid, don’t make it my problem.

So no one who lacks the physical ability to restrain and carry their toddler should ever go out in public?

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:33

Mnn · 03/04/2025 17:32

So no one who lacks the physical ability to restrain and carry their toddler should ever go out in public?

Correct.
Or take someone along, or have someone watch the kid at home.

It's wrong to let kids run wild, at the expense of others, no matter what the excuse.

swimlyn · 03/04/2025 17:33

"...total abdication of responsibility..."

Oh God yes. So common nowadays.

Lots of posters here seem to be supporting it though...

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:34

Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 17:16

Shouldn’t they? Oh dear. Does the hospital accept returns?

im sure you equally frown upon kids on screens out in public as well. I think the solution might be mind your own business and try to enjoy the company you’re with.

It's hard to mind one's own business with 90-decibel shrieks in one's ear, and kids racing around a restaurant as though it's an obstacle course.

Some people have such incredibly low standards.

Mnn · 03/04/2025 17:36

TheHerboriste · 03/04/2025 17:33

Correct.
Or take someone along, or have someone watch the kid at home.

It's wrong to let kids run wild, at the expense of others, no matter what the excuse.

There's a difference between 'running wild' and having a tantrum no?

So nobody who is disabled can ever take their kid out without a carer? Not sure that's going to help their kids socialisation and behaviour

PlasticPassion · 03/04/2025 17:36

You can tell them to sort it out, what’s to stop you?

Mnn · 03/04/2025 17:38

swimlyn · 03/04/2025 17:33

"...total abdication of responsibility..."

Oh God yes. So common nowadays.

Lots of posters here seem to be supporting it though...

I think there's a spectrum and there is a lot of negative sentiment towards children in public in Britain and a lower tolerance for children being children - they are not creatures of reason and can have tantrums unpredictability

Of course kids shouldn't be left to run amok but some tolerance would be kind when the vast majority of parents will already be mortified and worried about being judged

LlynTegid · 03/04/2025 17:38

If a parent makes an effort to get their child to be quiet and behave, I will be understanding and sympathetic. If they don't, I will be not.

skipdiddyskip · 03/04/2025 17:39

The last time my child did this a lovely older woman came over and reassured me that no one minded, that we’d all been there (as I was trying in vein to calm her down). I like that energy, it’s kind and understanding through circumstances which are ultimately out of my control. It was also an uncommon enough occurrence that dd stopped immediately to see what this stranger was saying to mummy. Women supporting women 💪

Stagshear · 03/04/2025 17:45

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skipdiddyskip · 03/04/2025 17:50

@Stagshearthanks for sharing your opinion. Tantrums are biologically normal, that should be noted. Are you on TikTok by any chance? “Anti-child” sentiment is kind of trending over there so I guess you’re jumping on that?

Stagshear · 03/04/2025 18:01

skipdiddyskip · 03/04/2025 17:50

@Stagshearthanks for sharing your opinion. Tantrums are biologically normal, that should be noted. Are you on TikTok by any chance? “Anti-child” sentiment is kind of trending over there so I guess you’re jumping on that?

No, I am not on TikTok. Telling though that you think that not allowing kids to run riot is some sort of bizarre trend…

Screamingabdabz · 03/04/2025 18:06

Fancycheese · 03/04/2025 13:47

To all the self righteous perfect parents (and the lone dog owner) who have piled on here to whinge about other people’s kids, do you really think shaming the parents for your perception of bad parenting is the solution?

Yes there are annoying kids and shit parents everywhere. But there are also really badly behaved adults in so-called “adult spaces” (what are these, incidentally? Casinos? Bars? Over priced coffee shops?). What’s the answer?

You don’t actually have a solution here, you just like feeling superior and better than other people. Just as insufferable in my opinion as the parent scrolling on their phone as their kids rain down hell.

Hit a nerve? Just parent your kids. Everyone wins.

Americano75 · 03/04/2025 18:10

Mine are older now but the toddler and baby years with my son were so horrific I simply ignore it if a small child is kicking off. Walked more than a mile in those shoes.

MissyB1 · 03/04/2025 18:14

spicemaiden · 02/04/2025 22:23

Sometimes ignoring a tantrum is the best possible thing you can do.

Not if it's in a restaurant /the cinema/ or any other public space where other people are trying to enjoy a treat.

Bluemoonbluebell · 03/04/2025 18:46

LittleBigHead · 03/04/2025 15:21

It's pretty simple to bundle up a child and take them outside to let them calm down.

My child (autistic) is about a foot taller than me now. Not so easy to bundle up 😅

Kuttbr · 03/04/2025 19:06

I completely agree OP