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Don’t know what to do🫨🤯

492 replies

Plummutum · 31/03/2025 23:58

Hi everyone, needs some advice,

so, basically, long story short - my DH’s spouse visa is about to expire in less than 48 hours and although we’d managed to save some money for his visa extension, there’s still a large chunk left for the IHS and we’ve exhausted every other avenue so I thought that the last option would be perhaps asking my mum. I really didn’t want to explore this option but we really don’t have a choice so I asked my mum (and they don’t have the most watertight son/mum-in-law relationship) but she reluctantly agreed on the basis that my husband asks her directly and formally agrees to pay her back for X amount of months. She wanted a formal arrangement because sometimes DH would forget to pay her back on the early days of our marriage. My husband is point blank refusing (he’s got a lot of pride) but I don’t think now’s the time to have pride as his visa depends on it. I really don’t want him to become an overstayer 😭 do you think he’s being unreasonable for refusing to speak to her directly? Or is my mum being unreasonable for wanting the request to come from him?

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ConiferBat · 01/04/2025 00:19

Why's he getting his knickers in a knot about 'pride' now?

That ship sailed as soon as you defaulted on paying back your MIL, sunshine.

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:20

DoYouReally · 01/04/2025 00:17

You have a grown ass man who has left himself with no options and he has to audacity to try to dictate terms to the only lady willing to help him despite the fact he has a bad record with past repayment and causes her other grief aswell.

What a prince you have married!

Okay, honestly I know that he’s not being painted in the best light but he honestly is a very wonderful human, it’s only the stubbornness that gets in the way.

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Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:20

ConiferBat · 01/04/2025 00:19

Why's he getting his knickers in a knot about 'pride' now?

That ship sailed as soon as you defaulted on paying back your MIL, sunshine.

Yes, I know 😭

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SapphOhNo · 01/04/2025 00:21

He doesn't sound remotely wonderful. You sound like you make excuses for him.

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:21

Gelatibon · 01/04/2025 00:17

I think your mum is being deliberately difficult, but it's also not unreasonable to expect him to ask himself.

What does he expect to happen if he doesn't?

Hmmm, I guess in some ways I understand what you mean, but I can’t blame her for responding in this way.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 01/04/2025 00:21

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:20

Okay, honestly I know that he’s not being painted in the best light but he honestly is a very wonderful human, it’s only the stubbornness that gets in the way.

Stubborn, doesn’t pay his debts, rude and dismissive of your family who have been kind and generous towards him.

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:23

SapphOhNo · 01/04/2025 00:21

He doesn't sound remotely wonderful. You sound like you make excuses for him.

Well, this visa situation is just a tiny drop in the ocean of our entire marriage, it’s not a reflection of his true nature - it’s just a tricky situation we’ve found ourselves in.

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Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:24

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/04/2025 00:21

Stubborn, doesn’t pay his debts, rude and dismissive of your family who have been kind and generous towards him.

Okay, yes maybe the way I wrote that makes him sound like a right bleep but it’s not always that way.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2025 00:24

Does he often find himself in tricky financial situations?

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:24

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2025 00:24

Does he often find himself in tricky financial situations?

Yes, sometimes he does

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MolluscMonday · 01/04/2025 00:26

Dear God woman. The universe is giving you a gift here by the sounds of things. Let the twat ruin his life and be happy on your own!

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:27

MolluscMonday · 01/04/2025 00:26

Dear God woman. The universe is giving you a gift here by the sounds of things. Let the twat ruin his life and be happy on your own!

😂😂sorry this made me giggle a bit

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strawlight · 01/04/2025 00:29

It’s a test, and he’s about to fail it. If he wants to ‘win’ and save his misplaced pride, he needs to play the game better.

Pandimoanymum · 01/04/2025 00:29

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:17

She doesn’t live with us, but we’re quite close and I see her and my sisters regularly. However, he often has this sort of “stand-offish” attitude around them, it’s very hard to explain, it’s not that he’s actively doing anything wrong, it’s more a passive, kind of lack of warmth towards them. He’ll usually stay upstairs when they visit and there’s no exchange of pleasantries if that makes sense. Just a quick “hi, hi” and off he trots. This really hurts my mum’s feelings because she’s been so generous to us and she’s a people person so she doesn’t like being neglected in this way.

Sounds like he’s just never been very interested in getting to know your family properly for whatever reason. My ex-DH was a bit like that, over the years it made family gatherings quite awkward and I always felt a bit trapped in the middle. As for the money, he needs to swallow his pride and graciously do what your mum is (quite reasonably) asking if he wants his visa. He’s in no position to be on his high horse after failing to pay her back previously. Good luck!

Mumof3confused · 01/04/2025 00:30

He’s bad with money.
He expects everyone else to sort out HIS s*.
Stubborn even to his own detriment.
He sulks when your mum makes very reasonable request and based only on bad experience lending money to him previously.
He sulks/makes your family uncomfortable when they visit.
He’s rude

These are all big red flags.

How long have you been married, and how old are you both?

outerspacepotato · 01/04/2025 00:30

So he's rude AF to someone who has given him money? He's a poor host to his very helpful MIL?

A proud man pays his debts. A proud man recognizes when he has fucked up and apologizes (like not paying your mom back) and treats people who have helped him well. He's not proud, he's mad that your mom is holding him accountable for his past financial fuckups.

Your husband is a spoiled brat.

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:30

Pandimoanymum · 01/04/2025 00:29

Sounds like he’s just never been very interested in getting to know your family properly for whatever reason. My ex-DH was a bit like that, over the years it made family gatherings quite awkward and I always felt a bit trapped in the middle. As for the money, he needs to swallow his pride and graciously do what your mum is (quite reasonably) asking if he wants his visa. He’s in no position to be on his high horse after failing to pay her back previously. Good luck!

Thanks🥰 yes, my thoughts exactly. Now’s not the time to have pride.

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Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:31

outerspacepotato · 01/04/2025 00:30

So he's rude AF to someone who has given him money? He's a poor host to his very helpful MIL?

A proud man pays his debts. A proud man recognizes when he has fucked up and apologizes (like not paying your mom back) and treats people who have helped him well. He's not proud, he's mad that your mom is holding him accountable for his past financial fuckups.

Your husband is a spoiled brat.

Yes, he is spoilt and I’ve (kindly) pointed this out to him before 🙈

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Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:32

strawlight · 01/04/2025 00:29

It’s a test, and he’s about to fail it. If he wants to ‘win’ and save his misplaced pride, he needs to play the game better.

Yes exactly 😭

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Gymnopedie · 01/04/2025 00:36

He (and you) call it pride. I call it arrogance.

Including when he won't even be civil to your family.

Notaflippinclue · 01/04/2025 00:39

Tell him to ask his own mum

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:40

Gymnopedie · 01/04/2025 00:36

He (and you) call it pride. I call it arrogance.

Including when he won't even be civil to your family.

It’s really complicated because as I said, he’s not actively doing anything rude, but he’s not really present the way they’d like. Could it also be a case of differing personalities? I guess in my upbringing son/daughter in-laws are supposed to be super respectful and welcome their parent in laws a certain way, maybe that’s the issue - perhaps he’s not fulfilling what they want in a son in law which is making them have those views as opposed to what he’s actually like (if that makes sense)

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nadine90 · 01/04/2025 00:44

Does he secretly want to move back to his home country? Because it doesn’t sound like he’s willing to make any effort to sort this out.
You’ve asked your mum, she’s given reasonable terms. He’s choosing not to take up her offer. The ball’s in his court, he has a solution, it’s his choice if he takes it.
Sorry op, he’s really not wonderful.

Mumof3confused · 01/04/2025 00:45

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:40

It’s really complicated because as I said, he’s not actively doing anything rude, but he’s not really present the way they’d like. Could it also be a case of differing personalities? I guess in my upbringing son/daughter in-laws are supposed to be super respectful and welcome their parent in laws a certain way, maybe that’s the issue - perhaps he’s not fulfilling what they want in a son in law which is making them have those views as opposed to what he’s actually like (if that makes sense)

Or maybe he’s just rude and you’re making excuses for him.

JHound · 01/04/2025 00:45

Your husband is lucky. If I was your mom I would say no outright. People only get one chance to not repay me money.

Also if he truly had pride he would have properly prepared for his tourist visa and not borrow money and not pay it back promptly. Your husband sounds like a bum.

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