Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

My mum’s in an abusive relationship - with her own son

424 replies

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
14
Biscuitjockey · 01/04/2025 20:27

Get your mum help before he kills her . I’m being serious and not trying to scare you but the situation is set and so is the danger to you mother . Good luck

Retiredfromearlyyears · 01/04/2025 20:28

Get herself to a place of safety and contact the police to help remove him. Can you support your mum with this. ? She should immediately apply for a restraining order to keep him away from her home and work.

snughugs · 01/04/2025 20:29

I went through this. It’s started when my Father got depressed and turned to drink. My parents separated.

My brother was always violent to me as a child and teenager, my Mother must’ve had some hidden misogyny as she did nothing to protect me no matter how awful he treated me. She sat back and did precisely nothing. She thought he was clever and wonderful.

Then it moved on to my frail by then father, cruelty beyond belief. Battered head to toe. During the violent outburst you’d try and run for the phone only for it to be pulled out the socket and the beating to continue, watching the horror of this is etched in your brain for a lifetime. I can’t watch any violence on Tv I get traumatised and upset. My Mother did nothing, probably embarrassed by the situation.

Then he moved onto her with similar behaviour. Black eyes the lot. I remember one evening for some misdemeanour he decided to keep her up all night and bully and beat her. I was in my bedroom I was still a teenager. I sneaked downstairs and dialled 999. I waited outside for the police and directed them to the bedroom. Well that sorted him out caught in the act of being a nasty bully to his own Mother. The police spoke to him he was never violent again.

However, My Mother and Brother never spoke to me for a month and apparently i’d ruined his life. Needless to say all the abuse continued except the violence. By the end of her life he was leeching off her savings and barely working. He was well into his 30s.

After she suddenly died I have never encountered someone so greedy. She died young like my Father but he was round emptying accounts and being controlling about the money. He robbed me of a significant sum and then wanted my share of the house. In the end I got solictors to sort it out and I had to deal with daily suicide threats and abuse that had me with palpitations. Solictors who cost me thousands, well I hated the experience but had no choice it cost a fortune too. There was loads of abuse i received during this time. It made me realise that by then it would’ve been too late for my Mother to remedy if she were still alive.

Anyway from someone who was going to kill themselves they’re still alive. I never see him and I’m very pleased about that. I value my peace.

I definitely think he was very poorly parented. Boys need strong parents. I’ve found it hard having a teenager now myself and I think My boy is so kind, loving and the complete opposite of my brother. I feel sad my Mother never experienced a loving and protective son. I don’t know how boys end up like this but I do think parents not putting firm boundaries in place and not physically and emotionally supporting their needs when they’re young can create problems.

If I were you I’d call the police. If she’s determined to enable him, you have to leave her to it. Remember a high percentage of the domestic violence deaths are men killing their Mothers so it is a problem, but she does need help herself.

Awful situation you have my full sympathy.

twilightermummy · 01/04/2025 20:32

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Poochycatmum · 01/04/2025 20:34

It actually sounds like it’s your mum who needs help in the first instance to recognise she isn’t helping him or herself by allowing this to contine. It is so extreme it’s almost impossible to believe she would allow it to continue. Does she have a friend outside of the family who could speak to her and she would trust enough to share what is happening? It’s often difficult seeking help within the family. The abuse sounds so extreme and dangerous that I can’t work out if she is too frightened to stop or she has been so well groomed by him that she thinks she should be doing this. I would start by getting professional advice from a charity for victims of abuse to find out the best way to tackle this. She clearly has some complex mental health needs to allow this to continue as I am assuming the family would intervene to help if she allowed them. I think the first step is to find a way of helping her to agree to accept help and accept that this is very wrong and should not continue for anyone’s sake. At that point it’s easier to get the right intervention to help her break away safely from this abuse and for both your mum and brother to get support. This sounds horrendous for everyone especially your mum. I really think she needs urgent help to see this is wrong on every level and that there is a way to get her life back. This may mean breaking all contact with your brother for a while at least but she needs to agree to do this otherwise she will keep allowing it to continue. I can’t stress enough the importance of getting professional support because as well as helping your mum understand this is wrong deciding to leave the abusive situation is often the most dangerous time and it is when abuse can escalate to a dangerous level. She needs protection and a proper plan of ongoing support to help her leave this situation as quickly and as safely as possible, and Importantly permanently. There are some very complicated mental health issues underlying this situation for both parties for it to have got so bad and real sensitivity will be needed to break this cycle and help her move on. I would start with Women’s Aid and ask for their advice. Good luck x

SpoonyCat · 01/04/2025 20:36

ClaraMumsnet · 01/04/2025 20:02

Thank you, but multiple posts accusing a poster of being AI is trollhunting.

It's also worth remembering that there may be posters who do use AI tools to write posts because they aren't confident in their abilities or don't have English as a first language.

We always look into reports, so please, report concerns rather than posting them on the thread.

FWIW, while we can never vouch for anyone, there's nothing about the OP that has given us a cause for concern.

Sorry to interrupt your thread, OP.

So why was her account suspended? The same thing happened to me when I was posting about my living situation with my abusive husband a few years ago. I had several people shouting about how it wasn't true because it was so awful. But in reality my husband was that bad and had only escalated things since then.

Poochycatmum · 01/04/2025 20:40

Lieneke · 01/04/2025 20:13

And what exactly have you done as her daughter and sister???? Surely something?

This is appalling Lieneke. It’s clear from the OP she is worried sick and at her wits end. She needs support not a post like this .. better to say nothing if you can’t empathise

Biscuitjockey · 01/04/2025 20:55

Get your mum help before he kills her . I’m being serious and not trying to scare you but the situation is set and so is the danger to you mother . Good luck

oldmoaner · 01/04/2025 20:57

I'm wondering if he has mental health problems. I really think your mom needs to look in the mirror and tell herself I'm worth more than this. Maybe she's too scared to stand up to him, in which case she needs some support. Ask her to speak to her doctor and explain what's going on. Maybe get a home visit from mental health if possible. Don't tell her son who it is, say it's someone about her health, maybe they can talk to him and they'll be able to tell if he's got mental health problems or is just a bully, copying his father. BUT she needs to get some support and NEVER EVER COVER UP FOR DV and that's what it is.

Biscuitjockey · 01/04/2025 20:59

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Debzyrobinson · 01/04/2025 21:04

Phone the police and have an induction on.There excuse to abuse your mother like this ,I'm actually appalled at the way he is treating your mother .

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 01/04/2025 21:13

Biscuitjockey · 01/04/2025 20:27

Get your mum help before he kills her . I’m being serious and not trying to scare you but the situation is set and so is the danger to you mother . Good luck

I have to agree with this post. Chucking him out and changing the locks won't work. She should leave and go into a refuge... then she can get the help she needs to build up her confidence but only she can make that decision. Good luck OP, stay strong for your DM ❤

Namechange4this1only · 01/04/2025 21:14

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

?

emilala · 01/04/2025 21:23

You can call the police. It's not up to her if they choose to prosecute. If they have sufficient evidence that will be enough and the CPS will decide that - I would suggest setting up some kind of nanny cam if you're able to. What a brat. You're not being unreasonable at all but I would be a LOT harsher with him than I suspect you've been. If he has thrown stuff at you during your pregnancy, report that too.

Nextdoor55 · 01/04/2025 21:30

I'm sorry but she is in a controlling relationship with your brother but she's also supporting his behaviour, so he will continue behaving in this way, she's got to do this herself but she'd not there yet.
To add, my brother is 58, he's still living with my parents, he'll never change & nor will my mother.
All I can say is I'm better off out of it.

Nextdoor55 · 01/04/2025 21:34

Debzyrobinson · 01/04/2025 21:04

Phone the police and have an induction on.There excuse to abuse your mother like this ,I'm actually appalled at the way he is treating your mother .

They won't do anything. I had an awful situation that screamed coersion just recently, similar situation, really harmful. They just said go & speak to your DM & ask her why she's allowing him to treat her that way.

ThistleTits · 01/04/2025 21:37

myusernamewastakenbyme · 31/03/2025 20:13

Wtf she is literally his slave...I would rather be dead than live like that.

She may well end up dead. I hope she gets the help and support she needs, to free herself of this abuse.

Booboobagins · 01/04/2025 21:41

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 20:11

She's failed to parent him properly, or at all it seems. I realise it's hard having experienced DV but honestly you can't make her put boundaries in if she doesn't want to. She's enabled him to grow up like this and she accepts it. Has she even asked for your help?

Wtaf reply is that @FortyElephants

Helpful? Not in the least.

If you can't add value with a comment window your neck in and move on.

Booboobagins · 01/04/2025 21:44

@hiddensuffering you can report him yourself. The police will do a welfare check. It maybe the next time she's shopping you record what's happening.

Your mum needs help now.

Please try to remove her from this situation.

Your brother sounds like he may have a psychological disorder so needs rehabilitation.

Sometimes we don't improve unless we hit rock bottom. He needs to hit rock bottom

Nikki75 · 01/04/2025 21:49

Your mum has and is setting him up to fail by allowing this disgusting behaviour to go on and to allow you to know this and do nothing.

Ring the police get a restraining order anything get him away and out of the family home , another girl or woman may end up being treated this way if your mum keeps allowing this .

I'm trying to be sympathetic but I'm finding it hard.. your mum is just as much the problem she is the only one who can stop behaviour like this.

ZestyJoey · 01/04/2025 21:59

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

Id advise her to kick him out or call the police.

Pessismistic · 01/04/2025 22:11

Hi op this is an awful situation just be there for your mum it’s hard to watch on but she is going to protect him if he does something bad report him she’s probably scared of doing anything about it. He’s basically controlling her like a partner but unfortunately he’s her blood so not as easy as to saying that’s it I’m done. I hope for your sake something gives eventually and it’s not her. Poor woman it’s scary to think her own son treats her so badly I can’t imagine what you or her are going through either.

Bowies · 01/04/2025 23:11

I’m so sorry this is really very worrying for you. It seems very extreme and would be very concerned about potential threat to life.

You can’t deal with this by yourself, professional help is needed including adult safeguarding for your mum as a vulnerable adult and recording and reporting all incidents to police.

Deer19 · 01/04/2025 23:22

I am sorry you are both going through this x ❤️

I am sure you can help your mum through Adult Safeguarding either through GP or Social Services? X x

Greyhound98 · 01/04/2025 23:33

This is so sad and awful. I could have written a lot of this myself.
‘Mothers and their sons hey?’
I used to laugh and joke about my mothers weird relationship with my brother but it’s too serious for that now.
He’s an angry drug using sponger. Agressive and abusive to my mum. Squaring up to my Dad trying to fight him. She will quite literally shut her eyes if he is doing anything wrong. He could burn my house down and she would ask him if he was OK. She will lie for him, minimise his actions and cover up for him till the end of time. He needs euthanising like the aggressive dog he is.
She even wanted to divorce my dad so she would have access to assets to pay brothers debts off.
He is in and out of work and alludes to suicidal thoughts to keep her in line and keep funds flowing.
My Dad is pushing 80 and scared to retire because his wages are funding my brother and he is scared of them being skint.They can’t see it, I’ve had to distance myself because I am now the villain for refusing to nod and agree at the re written truths.