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My mum’s in an abusive relationship - with her own son

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hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

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restingbitchface30 · 01/04/2025 19:25

If your mum won’t do anything you need to. You need to contact the police and see if there’s anything that can be done. It may harm your relationship with your mum temporarily but rather that than her getting abused this way. She needs to cut ties because he won’t change. And your mum needs some counselling immediately to get to the root cause of why she’s allows herself to be treated this way. My ex was incredibly abusive, similar to what you’ve described and my 18 yo son shows some signs of narcissism and a similar temper to his dad. Nothing like your brother though. I will always love my son but if he does turn out like his dad I will sever ties. Because these people cannot be helped.

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:28

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Blades2 · 01/04/2025 19:28

Five minutes in a room with some male friends/famy members and show them this post.

seriously though, please contact police, your mum deserves so much better

Pandalott · 01/04/2025 19:32

This is just awful. These are the kind of people who go on to kill their parents. Can you video the abuse and show her it one day. Looking at it from a video might make her realise it's not ok. Sometimes when its happening to you in that moment you can't see how bad it actually is.
My daughter has recently became really angry towards me she has got a new boyfriend and started smoking weed she's only 16 and has autism so I'm not in a position where I can tell her to leave as she can't even look after herself yet. I know her anger is from the weed and I'm just hoping she will stop it once day but while her boyfriend smokes it daily I can't see that happening any time soon.

Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:32

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I called out the original post as it was too formulaic. Not because this isn't believable. The situation involving abuse is believable and it's happening in reality behind closed doors.

What I want to clarify is whether AI can follow on with posts answering our questions, clarifying points and including a screenshot of texts as in this case. AI capable of this?

Genuine question!

Pandalott · 01/04/2025 19:33

Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:32

I called out the original post as it was too formulaic. Not because this isn't believable. The situation involving abuse is believable and it's happening in reality behind closed doors.

What I want to clarify is whether AI can follow on with posts answering our questions, clarifying points and including a screenshot of texts as in this case. AI capable of this?

Genuine question!

Is this a fake post? I'm confused

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:33

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Jack80 · 01/04/2025 19:34

Can you speak you brother or chat to Women's aid or refuge for her

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:35

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Pandalott · 01/04/2025 19:36

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She said she has phoned police etc and nothing has been done. Maybe she could try actually talking to the brother. I know in my family I could never talk to my brothers about anything so maybe she doesn't feel able to.

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:36

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Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:36

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There's a reply post in this thread where OP has included a screenshot of text messages.

AI can't do that surely? 😭 I'm genuinely asking as most of us won't appreciate if this is actually possible.

Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:38

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I called it out immediately - then the follow on posts took me to complete backtrack because I couldn't believe AI can do that.

Instincts.....listen 🤦

SpoonyCat · 01/04/2025 19:38

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What does NF film mean?

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:39

Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:36

There's a reply post in this thread where OP has included a screenshot of text messages.

AI can't do that surely? 😭 I'm genuinely asking as most of us won't appreciate if this is actually possible.

You can ask AI to write a post, perhaps based on the Netflix film Adolesence. And then write your oen replies, or ask AI to write repliees with screenshots. Anyone can do it. And MN is the perfect place for AI tp
practise.

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:39

SpoonyCat · 01/04/2025 19:38

What does NF film mean?

Netflix

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:41

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Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:41

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:39

You can ask AI to write a post, perhaps based on the Netflix film Adolesence. And then write your oen replies, or ask AI to write repliees with screenshots. Anyone can do it. And MN is the perfect place for AI tp
practise.

I felt it immediately when I read it.

However, I had no clue regards the capacity to do what it has and what you've just clarified.

I will always believe my first feeling going forward.

This is actually really depressing and scary as fuck tbh.

Wishyouwerehere50 · 01/04/2025 19:43

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I'm starting to really dislike this modern world, seriously 😭🤦

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:43

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Lawnmower Man is one of the creepiest films I recall from my youth. Now it's becoming more likely everyday.

If we report immediately on suspicion, I'm guessing that helps reduce the proliferation of this shit?

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:46

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Johna69 · 01/04/2025 19:46

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

He needs a good battering simple as.

RustySpoons88 · 01/04/2025 19:47

But she IS failing him by showing him that he can act this way without consequence. If this continues he’ll never have a fulfilling relationship, never know the value of earning his own way and in the end he’ll run out of people that care for or even like him. Tell her to have some pride and stop enabling him; she needs to sort this out.

noquinoa · 01/04/2025 19:47

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