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Keir Starmer ignoring Mother's Day

557 replies

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 30/03/2025 23:12

AIBU to think it's a bit of a glaring omission?

Nothing on Twix today except something about Ramadan, and an RT about Myanmar.

Lots of upset on there about him ignoring Lent too.

It's probably too late to expect anything now.

What's his objective here? It feels so... deliberate. And bizarre.

Fully expecting some to accuse me of dog whistling. But I'd still be interested in why they think he's done it.

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RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:02

C8H10N4O2 · 31/03/2025 13:52

Mothers Day isn't an religious festival either. Nor is it celebrated globally (less than half the world's countries mark any form of Mother's day).

The UK is an outlier tieing it to the fourth Sunday in Lent (Roman rite) and calling it Mothering Sunday. Most countries which celebrate Mothers Day do so in May but dates range from early Feb through to late December.

Most countries use offficial channels to mention major, globally recognised festival dates - so Eid, Diwali, Hannukah Roman Christmas, Orthodox Christmas etc and official state days eg Independence days, Thanksgiving etc.

Personal channels are often used for less formal dates such as Mother's Day. And lets not pretend that Fathers day, DGP day etc are anything other than marketing inventions to cash in on the Mothers Day market. However any comms strategy with a brain will also target messages to the relevant audiences and vary those over time rather than waste money scatter gunning all messages to all channels.

All of this reminds me - must send a purple ink job to No 10 as my Mastadon LarryTheCat fangroup didn't get our personal mother's day message and all eighteen of us are offended that we didn't get a generic "happy mothers day to all mothers" message set up by the office junior in the comms department.

Mother's Day is triggering and offensive to those without mothers or who have mothers who have died.

Many organisations now allow you to opt out of Mother's Day marketing.

The PM should be more sensitive about this and not make social media posts that may cause distress for many.

Livelovebehappy · 31/03/2025 14:05

meisafairy · 31/03/2025 12:50

I was really shocked yesterday to see on all the big pages, including Lloyds bank Marks & Spencer‘s Tesco et cetera even on the royal family page if they mentioned Eid there was a ton of comments underneath saying what about Mother’s Day but yet all of them had mentioned Mother’s Day hours earlier.

it was literally like a ln aggressive coordinated attack across the Internet yesterday very weird.

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There's probably a reason for that. People are maybe concerned that we are moving away from traditional celebrations relevant to the UK. Only last week a school was in the news because they were not going to celebrate Easter. Maybe people who were using mothers day as an excuse to vent was a red herring....

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:05

Honestly I really want National Ice Cream For Breakfast Day promoted.

Why can't I have it?

If I don't I will scccrweammm and scccrweammm about just how unfair it is.

Fancycheese · 31/03/2025 14:07

Politicians having social media is a fucking nightmare. It just whips up ridiculous faux outrage. Who cares?

Janiie · 31/03/2025 14:08

'Given we have tweets from various public sector organisations about various Bollocks Days, I don't see why Starmer isn't promoting many of these days'

Mother's Day isn't one of the various bollocks days.

'Mother's Day is triggering and offensive to those without mothers or who have mothers who have died.'

Lots of celebrations trigger some people for one reason or another doesn't mean we ignore them. Strategies to cope always more useful than avoidance ime.

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:09

Janiie · 31/03/2025 14:08

'Given we have tweets from various public sector organisations about various Bollocks Days, I don't see why Starmer isn't promoting many of these days'

Mother's Day isn't one of the various bollocks days.

'Mother's Day is triggering and offensive to those without mothers or who have mothers who have died.'

Lots of celebrations trigger some people for one reason or another doesn't mean we ignore them. Strategies to cope always more useful than avoidance ime.

Of course mother's day is bollocks.

Have you SEEN the threads over the past week?!

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:10

And I still demand my Ice Cream Day instead of Mothers Day which I don't celebrate.

Janiie · 31/03/2025 14:11

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:05

Honestly I really want National Ice Cream For Breakfast Day promoted.

Why can't I have it?

If I don't I will scccrweammm and scccrweammm about just how unfair it is.

Why do you keep mocking Mother's Day?

thepariscrimefiles · 31/03/2025 14:14

Livelovebehappy · 31/03/2025 14:05

There's probably a reason for that. People are maybe concerned that we are moving away from traditional celebrations relevant to the UK. Only last week a school was in the news because they were not going to celebrate Easter. Maybe people who were using mothers day as an excuse to vent was a red herring....

I don't think that the knee jerk comments are as prevelent or as angry about Jewish, Sikh and Hindu holidays/festivals as they are about Islamic holidays although some people will moan about any holidays/celebrations that aren't Christian. Islamaphobia is rife on Twitter and this thread is definitely an Islamaphobic dog whistle and many like-minded people have answered the call.

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:23

Janiie · 31/03/2025 14:11

Why do you keep mocking Mother's Day?

Because the whole thing about Starmer not saying something about it is absolutely ridiculous.

I would rather he just ran the bloody country and didn't waste taxpayers money employing people to work out which days are important and which aren't.

Honestly people have gone completely mental on this over the last few days. For all the angst and drama it causes so many women would be better off without it.

SallyWD · 31/03/2025 14:31

Livelovebehappy · 31/03/2025 14:05

There's probably a reason for that. People are maybe concerned that we are moving away from traditional celebrations relevant to the UK. Only last week a school was in the news because they were not going to celebrate Easter. Maybe people who were using mothers day as an excuse to vent was a red herring....

Yes but that's the whole point. There's so much rubbish being spouted on social media and the media in general. Maybe a school didn't celebrate Easter but it doesn't mean Easter is cancelled like I've seen people saying on social media. Our very diverse school always celebrates Easter, Christmas, Diwali, Eid.
Look at all this fuss about Keir Starmer "ignoring" mothers day when he has actually posted about it on several forums. Not a peep about the fact he didn't mention Eid on Instagram. People are just constantly looking for things to be offended about, especially if anyone dares to send a message of goodwill to Muslims.

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:40

SallyWD · 31/03/2025 14:31

Yes but that's the whole point. There's so much rubbish being spouted on social media and the media in general. Maybe a school didn't celebrate Easter but it doesn't mean Easter is cancelled like I've seen people saying on social media. Our very diverse school always celebrates Easter, Christmas, Diwali, Eid.
Look at all this fuss about Keir Starmer "ignoring" mothers day when he has actually posted about it on several forums. Not a peep about the fact he didn't mention Eid on Instagram. People are just constantly looking for things to be offended about, especially if anyone dares to send a message of goodwill to Muslims.

Starmer would be better to stop doing ALL these goodwill messages. Its such complete nonsense. If theres a halting of all of them, no one can be offended.

Why do them? Its a waste of time. Its just leading to people bitching about how they aren't getting attention.

Nothing is achieved by them. Theres no soft power gain.

Honestly, if it causes this many problems ditch it.

The PM should PM not PR.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/03/2025 14:40

Janiie · 31/03/2025 11:38

I'm not professionally offended. It is very simple, if he's going to use Twitter to acknowledge one important event then he should use Twitter to acknowledge another important event.

This isnt just some crazy wimmin on mumsnet daring to speak and point out his shortcomings and selectiveness, it is indeed being commented on on many other platforms too.

Proving that X Monkeys will unthinkingly do whatever they're told.🙈 I hope they're getting their arses handed to them on the many other platforms too.

Thick, racist fuckwits.

CurlewKate · 31/03/2025 14:46

@AlltheprettyseahorsesEid is not a “tradition”. Eid is a major religious festival. Like Christmas or Hannukah.

SallyWD · 31/03/2025 14:48

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 14:40

Starmer would be better to stop doing ALL these goodwill messages. Its such complete nonsense. If theres a halting of all of them, no one can be offended.

Why do them? Its a waste of time. Its just leading to people bitching about how they aren't getting attention.

Nothing is achieved by them. Theres no soft power gain.

Honestly, if it causes this many problems ditch it.

The PM should PM not PR.

Hmm maybe you're right. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Then people would complain he was ignoring Christian festivals and dig out tweets from years ago showing when he wished people a happy Eid. People are just ranting about this stuff the whole time on social media. It doesn't matter if he posts or not, they're constantly finding stuff to be outraged about. People are constantly finding ways to demonise minorities and claim that the government only care about immigrants etc.

aspidernamedfluffy · 31/03/2025 15:09

If he had posted a Mother's Day message, then £ to a penny those same people complaining that he didn't would be complaining about how much of a hypocrite he was due to many women "not being able to afford to have children because of the budget/CoL/the sky being the wrong shade of blue, or whatever reason they can dredge up.

HotSawce · 31/03/2025 15:18

aspidernamedfluffy · 31/03/2025 15:09

If he had posted a Mother's Day message, then £ to a penny those same people complaining that he didn't would be complaining about how much of a hypocrite he was due to many women "not being able to afford to have children because of the budget/CoL/the sky being the wrong shade of blue, or whatever reason they can dredge up.

Fair point

Cannaeberught · 31/03/2025 15:27

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 30/03/2025 23:12

AIBU to think it's a bit of a glaring omission?

Nothing on Twix today except something about Ramadan, and an RT about Myanmar.

Lots of upset on there about him ignoring Lent too.

It's probably too late to expect anything now.

What's his objective here? It feels so... deliberate. And bizarre.

Fully expecting some to accuse me of dog whistling. But I'd still be interested in why they think he's done it.

Listen, he also ignored ‘speak like a pirate day’ Napping Day, Hobbit Day AND World Lindy HOP day. The man is dead to me, DEAD to me!
I don’t care if we ARE on the brink of WW3 - he needs to get his priorities sorted .

Janiie · 31/03/2025 15:50

'Listen, he also ignored ‘speak like a pirate day’ Napping Day, Hobbit Day AND World Lindy HOP day. The man is dead to me, DEAD to me! I don’t care if we ARE on the brink of WW3 - he needs to get his priorities sorted .'

Again, 'pirates day' and napping day' are not comparable to Mother's Day. Why thr derision about a day that is important to many women and their familes?

He either does X or he doesn't.

P.s We aren't on the brink of WW3, no need to scaremonger.

SallyWD · 31/03/2025 15:53

Janiie · 31/03/2025 15:50

'Listen, he also ignored ‘speak like a pirate day’ Napping Day, Hobbit Day AND World Lindy HOP day. The man is dead to me, DEAD to me! I don’t care if we ARE on the brink of WW3 - he needs to get his priorities sorted .'

Again, 'pirates day' and napping day' are not comparable to Mother's Day. Why thr derision about a day that is important to many women and their familes?

He either does X or he doesn't.

P.s We aren't on the brink of WW3, no need to scaremonger.

I haven't heard any Muslims complaining about the lack of an Eid post on Instagram. He either does Instagram or he doesn't.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 31/03/2025 15:57

I'm no fan of Keir Starmer, but I can't imagine it occurring to me to notice or care if he acknowledged Mothers' Day on social media Confused

JassyRadlett · 31/03/2025 15:57

Janiie · 31/03/2025 15:50

'Listen, he also ignored ‘speak like a pirate day’ Napping Day, Hobbit Day AND World Lindy HOP day. The man is dead to me, DEAD to me! I don’t care if we ARE on the brink of WW3 - he needs to get his priorities sorted .'

Again, 'pirates day' and napping day' are not comparable to Mother's Day. Why thr derision about a day that is important to many women and their familes?

He either does X or he doesn't.

P.s We aren't on the brink of WW3, no need to scaremonger.

He does X for some things. He does other channels for other things. The way he uses different channels will evolve over time.

He doesn't need to vomit everything out on a single account, just like they will spread news stories across different outlets.

This stuff isn't hard.

BIWI · 31/03/2025 16:02

This stuff isn't hard.

You wouldn’t think so, would you?!

BeHere · 31/03/2025 16:12

GCAcademic · 31/03/2025 12:53

The people I've seen doing this are the same ones who get outraged by the fact that there's an International Women's Day. Go figure.

Oh, I think it exactly figures! The venn diagram is probably a circle.

Whammyyammy · 31/03/2025 16:16

I'm sure the PM has enough to do without acknowledging a day made up by card manufacturers.