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AIBU to start limiting contact with my MIL for my 3 kids?

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clrd · 30/03/2025 20:53

We have three kids—5, 3, and almost 1. My husband works very long hours and earns well, which allows me to be a SAHM (what I’d always wanted to be). Our setup works well: I handle the kids’ schedules, education, health, as well as family visits because if we only saw family when my husband was available, it would eat into our rare family time and mean the kids saw their grandparents much less. It seems to work well with everything except MIL’s visits.

The problem is, the more kids we have, the more overbearing my MIL becomes. She has an opinion on everything. Every visit, she reminds me she doesn’t like the school our eldest goes to (she knows I was the one who researched and chose it). She constantly brings up how I “didn’t breastfeed for long enough” with my youngest, jokingly guesses if I’m pregnant and regularly jokes that it’s time for me to get pregnant again to “keep up the pattern.” When I brush it off, she’ll shake her head and say things like, “Well, you don’t want to leave an awkward gap, do you?” as if our family planning is somehow her decision. She also completely undermines my parenting whenever she visits. If I say it’s bedtime, she’ll immediately counter with, “Oh, don’t be silly! Granny’s still here, they can stay up late.”

When I was pregnant with my youngest, I had horrible morning sickness. One afternoon, MIL was over while I was struggling to get through the day, barely able to keep food down. As I’d been trying to keep 2 toddlers happy all morning, I thought now that their gran is here maybe I’ll sit and relax for a minute. She looked me up and down and said, “Just because you’re pregnant doesn’t mean you can stay on the sofa all day - the kids will think it’s new baby’s fault their mum doesn’t play with them. Also put some make up on before DH gets home - men love with their eyes” all said in a tone as if she’s doing me a favour sharing her advice based on a lifetime of experience and knowledge. I was exhausted, nauseous, and barely holding it together, and I just burst into tears. Instead of apologizing, she just rolled her eyes and muttered, “Oh, it’s just hormones.”

Another time, she made a comment that actually reduced me to tears in front of my kids. The baby had been fussy all morning, I was dealing with a tantrum from my toddler, and my eldest was whining about something minor. I was completely overwhelmed. MIL just sighed dramatically and said, “Maybe if you gave them more time each individually, they wouldn’t act like this.” I just broke. For context, they have all my time. I rarely go anywhere without them and spend all day every day making sure they’re healthy, happy and being developed. Admittedly it’s mainly with all 3 (or now, 2 of them, as the oldest is at school) rather than 1 on 1. I started crying right there while my kids stared at me, and instead of offering any kindness, she just muttered, “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

For context, my husband is from a culture where grandparents are much more involved, often even living with their adult children. That’s not how we’ve structured our family, but it explains why MIL sees herself as having a bigger role than I think is appropriate.

My husband is an amazing dad, incredibly supportive, and earns more than enough to provide us with a very comfortable life. We even have a housekeeper, so it’s not like I’m drowning in housework, it’s just that every time MIL is here, I feel constantly judged, criticised, and completely dismissed.

Would I be unreasonable to start limiting contact, even if that means the kids see her less?

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dirtyyoungtown · 30/03/2025 20:57

Stop inviting her round.

If she asks why tell her she’s been repeatedly rude to you.

Tell DH that he is now responsible for the kids seeing MIL on his own time, and you will not be involved. Fuck cultural expectations.

Liz1tummypain · 30/03/2025 20:58

Could you move a bit further from her? While they're still young might be the best time to get away. Sorry I can't think of any other ideas. Good luck

Maray1967 · 30/03/2025 20:58

You must be a saint. If she was my MIL I would bolt the door and she would never cross the threshold again.

bigboykitty · 30/03/2025 21:00

YANBU. Every time she starts, just pack up and leave and each time leave a longer gap between visits. She will basically do the work for you.

Butterflyfern · 30/03/2025 21:01

dirtyyoungtown · 30/03/2025 20:57

Stop inviting her round.

If she asks why tell her she’s been repeatedly rude to you.

Tell DH that he is now responsible for the kids seeing MIL on his own time, and you will not be involved. Fuck cultural expectations.

This. You could also add that according to your culture, she is behaving very badly and it is entirely appropriate to distance yourself and your children.

toomuchfaff · 30/03/2025 21:20

dirtyyoungtown · 30/03/2025 20:57

Stop inviting her round.

If she asks why tell her she’s been repeatedly rude to you.

Tell DH that he is now responsible for the kids seeing MIL on his own time, and you will not be involved. Fuck cultural expectations.

I'm another one in total agreement here. DH can be responsible for interactions with his mother.

In every contact, Every single time she says something rude - call it out.

Sheila - did you mean to be so rude then, it came across as rude and insensitive.

Sheila, what do you mean - that sounded very rude.

Sheila - would you repeat? I'm not sure if heard you correctly, 🤔

101Nutella · 30/03/2025 21:34

YANBU- she’s being horrible and then minimising/gaslighting your feelings.

if you can’t do it for you, do it for your kids. Do you want them to grow up and accept that kind of behaviour? Especially from people who are close to them.

what kind of person would be so cruel to another human. Sorry you are going through this. I wouldn’t spend time with someone who talks like that to me, especially if they are family. Even worse.

thepariscrimefiles · 30/03/2025 21:40

She's really rude to you and doesn't actually provide any help with the children so you need to stop her coming round.

What would happen if you were rude back and then when she complained, you just told her that she was too sensitive? I doubt she would be happy.

clrd · 30/03/2025 21:44

Liz1tummypain · 30/03/2025 20:58

Could you move a bit further from her? While they're still young might be the best time to get away. Sorry I can't think of any other ideas. Good luck

She lives about 30-50 minutes drive away (traffic dependent) and as much as I’d love to move, our location works very well for my husband’s job but more so, I actually picked it for our kids’ school. it’s an excellent school and for me it’s important that my kids go to a mixed school, my MIL wants it to be single sex.

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Onlyvisiting · 30/03/2025 21:46

100% stop inviting her round when you are alone. And tell your DH why, if he wants the kids to see her then he can arrange it. She's not just a bit pushy she is cruel and bitchy. And fucked if I'd let my kids hear me being told I should put makeup on to pretty myself up for my husband, is that an attitude you want them to have as they get older?

clrd · 30/03/2025 21:54

thepariscrimefiles · 30/03/2025 21:40

She's really rude to you and doesn't actually provide any help with the children so you need to stop her coming round.

What would happen if you were rude back and then when she complained, you just told her that she was too sensitive? I doubt she would be happy.

There’s a “respect your elders” thing in their culture, so it wouldn’t go down well with either MIL or my DH.
Ive never called her sensitive but I do sometimes “speak back” (or that’s what she’s said to my DH that I do) in terms of saying “actually I think it IS time the kids go to bed - don’t want them to be overtired tomorrow” or when she said to both DH and I that we’ve essentially ruined our kids’ childhoods by having them too close together and therefore not enough individual attention as I’m always with the 2 or 3 of them, I responded with “oh interesting you think that! I think having siblings so close in age is the best gift we could have given them! How lucky are they - two best mates each for life” which she said was rude and left shortly afterwards. My DH didn’t comment much, just left her leave, but did make a couple of comments like “actually we couldn’t be happier with our family” “so lucky that we could have all 3 and on a timeline we wanted” but somehow I was the rude one.

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clrd · 30/03/2025 21:56

Thank you for the responses - I’m having her round tomorrow and if any more rudeness comes my way (which it will) I’ll make it known that it’s the last time she’s visiting without DH and visits will become far more rare

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Keiththecatwithamagichat · 30/03/2025 22:08

The comment about men love with thier eyes, talking about you having to look a certain way for her own son is so creepy and gross🤮
I hope your dh has your back.

Truetoself · 30/03/2025 22:08

stopping her coming round is not the answer as then DH will need to see her during your family time and you will probably end up resenting her more.
he needs to try and create boundaries. No matter the culture- she is rude.

What is the context you mentioned your DH earns well and you have a housekeeper? Your MIL doesn’t value your status as her grandchildren’s mother. Make sure your DH values you and it is always a good idea to have access to your own money

clrd · 30/03/2025 22:27

Truetoself · 30/03/2025 22:08

stopping her coming round is not the answer as then DH will need to see her during your family time and you will probably end up resenting her more.
he needs to try and create boundaries. No matter the culture- she is rude.

What is the context you mentioned your DH earns well and you have a housekeeper? Your MIL doesn’t value your status as her grandchildren’s mother. Make sure your DH values you and it is always a good idea to have access to your own money

I mentioned me being a SAHM and my DH earning well and that it works for us because I know often in MIL posts (I name changed for this but am an occasional poster and frequent lurker) everyone piles on to the DH saying that he can’t offload everything onto the wife, to prevent people asking why it’s my responsibility to look for schools or supervise his mum’s visits and telling me DH should cut his hours if he can’t accommodate seeing his mum.

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Shinyandnew1 · 31/03/2025 07:03

There’s a “respect your elders” thing in their culture, so it wouldn’t go down well with either MIL or my DH.

I wouldn't care what someone so rude thought of me, but if it 'wouldn't go down well' with your DH, then you have a bit of a problem. What do you mean-what would he say/do if you didn't have your MIL round much due to her rudeness?

PermanentTemporary · 31/03/2025 07:15

I think I would go in closer rather than withdraw. The fact that she left when you stood your ground was a win. Though I might record the interactions, because she will get nastier and try to get your DH on her side by the sound of it.

Her comments are outrageous. So be outraged - in particular, laugh at her a lot more. 'Men love with their eyes' - tbh just burst out laughing at something so stupid. 'Oh really, mine prefers to use other parts' or 'God I must tell DH you said that, he'll wet himself'. Laughing may be passive aggressive but it's not as aggressive as she is.

lazycats · 31/03/2025 07:38

Reading your post I was waiting for the inevitable “my husband/MIL are from a different culture” line.

You need to have a frank conversation with your husband to stand up for you when she talks like this. It’ll be much more effective coming from him.

Oneearringlost · 31/03/2025 08:05

Does your H have other siblings? With spouses...I wonder what her relationship is like with them, especially if they have children?

You need to not see her without your H.

Challenge (and I echo, asking her to repeat what she's just said) and stand up for yourself and your values. "Yes, the children's bedtime is now"..." Would you like to read eldest a bedtime story?" etc... "Routines and boundaries are important for the children and make them feel safe" stated as fact and VERY firmly! She needs to see you as Boss in your own home, with your own children.
YOU are their mother. It sounds like she sees this as a power play. Play her at her own game and grow some balls! Good luck x

Elsvieta · 31/03/2025 18:29

Sounds like you've had good outcomes with standing up to her (her leaving soon after). Result! Keep it up.

It's their culture, not yours (and you don't want it to become your kids', right?). Funny how many "cultures" seem to mean "everybody craps on women and women have to put up and shut up". Reject the culture.

Needlenardlenoo · 31/03/2025 19:00

Yes you should limit the amount of time she spends with your children. She is an awful role model. The good news is that people like this never want to do any hands on childcare and tend to lose interest once children grow up enough to be able to express their own opinions.

Look up "grey rock" for times you absolutely have to spend with her.

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:11

She came over yesterday, and honestly, within minutes, I was already regretting it. My eldest was chatting about school, and MIL, in that voice, goes, “Well, at least the holidays are decent. Such a shame you couldn’t pick a good school for her. Girls do so much better without the distractions, but I suppose that was your decision.”

My daughter looked at me, confused, like she was waiting for me to say something and she could definitely sense the tension. MIL knows I was the one who chose the school, and this was just her way of reminding me she disapproves. I just changed the subject, but later, when my daughter ran off, MIL leaned in and went, “I just hope you haven’t made a mistake.” I felt my eyes sting, but I refused to let her see me tear up.

Then in the kitchen, I was just making tea, trying to get through the visit, and she follows me in, sighing at how I’ve arranged everything, muttering under her breath. Then she goes, “You’ve really made things hard for yourself, haven’t you? Three so close together, no wonder you’re always tired. You barely stopped breastfeeding before you were pregnant again. And if you do want more, don’t wait too long—otherwise, the little one will be left out while the older two are close.”

I just burst into tears. Couldn’t hold it in. I was already exhausted, and here she was, making me feel like I was doing everything wrong. She just rolled her eyes. “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

So I took a deep breath and said, “I think we need to take a break from these visits.”

She laughed. Proper laughed. “Oh, don’t be silly, dear. I only say these things because I care.”

I didn’t even argue. Just wiped my face, walked out, started tidying up in that visit’s over way. She got the hint, made a big show of hugging the kids “Granny’s going now! I’ll see you all soon!” like I was banning her from seeing them. Then, just before she left, she gave me this fake sweet smile and said, “Think about what I said, dear. It’s only because I actually care about your kids.”

I shut the door behind her and just stood there for a second, trying to process. Then I burst into tears again. I never cry, except after these visits. I love my life, I love my kids, but these visits push me to my absolute limit.

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clrd · 01/04/2025 19:17

Oneearringlost · 31/03/2025 08:05

Does your H have other siblings? With spouses...I wonder what her relationship is like with them, especially if they have children?

You need to not see her without your H.

Challenge (and I echo, asking her to repeat what she's just said) and stand up for yourself and your values. "Yes, the children's bedtime is now"..." Would you like to read eldest a bedtime story?" etc... "Routines and boundaries are important for the children and make them feel safe" stated as fact and VERY firmly! She needs to see you as Boss in your own home, with your own children.
YOU are their mother. It sounds like she sees this as a power play. Play her at her own game and grow some balls! Good luck x

He only has sisters.
With the sisters MIL very much interferes just as much (maybe more?), she comes over and tells them off if they are raising their children “wrong”. At family gatherings it almost feels like MIL is their manager - supervising what they’re doing with the kids and interfering whenever she pleases. I’ve heard her tell her daughter / my SIL that she’s fat whilst SIL serves herself seconds and SIL stopped. She constantly overrules SIL in parenting if SIL says something MIL disagrees with. SILs consult MIL on a lot of parenting things it seems.
I feel like MIL is disappointed that she doesn’t have the same power and influence with my kids as with her other grandchildren.

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clrd · 01/04/2025 19:18

Elsvieta · 31/03/2025 18:29

Sounds like you've had good outcomes with standing up to her (her leaving soon after). Result! Keep it up.

It's their culture, not yours (and you don't want it to become your kids', right?). Funny how many "cultures" seem to mean "everybody craps on women and women have to put up and shut up". Reject the culture.

She leaves but will come over again and be just as horrible if not more.

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thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 19:20

What an awful woman she is! I would be totally mortified if I made any of my DILs cry. That should be the last time you invite her round. She doesn't deserve you or her lovely grandchildren. Respect should go both ways and as she doesn't ever show you any respect, in fact it's the complete opposite, she shouldn't expect automatic respect from you, just because she is older.