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AIBU to start limiting contact with my MIL for my 3 kids?

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clrd · 30/03/2025 20:53

We have three kids—5, 3, and almost 1. My husband works very long hours and earns well, which allows me to be a SAHM (what I’d always wanted to be). Our setup works well: I handle the kids’ schedules, education, health, as well as family visits because if we only saw family when my husband was available, it would eat into our rare family time and mean the kids saw their grandparents much less. It seems to work well with everything except MIL’s visits.

The problem is, the more kids we have, the more overbearing my MIL becomes. She has an opinion on everything. Every visit, she reminds me she doesn’t like the school our eldest goes to (she knows I was the one who researched and chose it). She constantly brings up how I “didn’t breastfeed for long enough” with my youngest, jokingly guesses if I’m pregnant and regularly jokes that it’s time for me to get pregnant again to “keep up the pattern.” When I brush it off, she’ll shake her head and say things like, “Well, you don’t want to leave an awkward gap, do you?” as if our family planning is somehow her decision. She also completely undermines my parenting whenever she visits. If I say it’s bedtime, she’ll immediately counter with, “Oh, don’t be silly! Granny’s still here, they can stay up late.”

When I was pregnant with my youngest, I had horrible morning sickness. One afternoon, MIL was over while I was struggling to get through the day, barely able to keep food down. As I’d been trying to keep 2 toddlers happy all morning, I thought now that their gran is here maybe I’ll sit and relax for a minute. She looked me up and down and said, “Just because you’re pregnant doesn’t mean you can stay on the sofa all day - the kids will think it’s new baby’s fault their mum doesn’t play with them. Also put some make up on before DH gets home - men love with their eyes” all said in a tone as if she’s doing me a favour sharing her advice based on a lifetime of experience and knowledge. I was exhausted, nauseous, and barely holding it together, and I just burst into tears. Instead of apologizing, she just rolled her eyes and muttered, “Oh, it’s just hormones.”

Another time, she made a comment that actually reduced me to tears in front of my kids. The baby had been fussy all morning, I was dealing with a tantrum from my toddler, and my eldest was whining about something minor. I was completely overwhelmed. MIL just sighed dramatically and said, “Maybe if you gave them more time each individually, they wouldn’t act like this.” I just broke. For context, they have all my time. I rarely go anywhere without them and spend all day every day making sure they’re healthy, happy and being developed. Admittedly it’s mainly with all 3 (or now, 2 of them, as the oldest is at school) rather than 1 on 1. I started crying right there while my kids stared at me, and instead of offering any kindness, she just muttered, “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

For context, my husband is from a culture where grandparents are much more involved, often even living with their adult children. That’s not how we’ve structured our family, but it explains why MIL sees herself as having a bigger role than I think is appropriate.

My husband is an amazing dad, incredibly supportive, and earns more than enough to provide us with a very comfortable life. We even have a housekeeper, so it’s not like I’m drowning in housework, it’s just that every time MIL is here, I feel constantly judged, criticised, and completely dismissed.

Would I be unreasonable to start limiting contact, even if that means the kids see her less?

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clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Shinyandnew1 · 31/03/2025 07:03

There’s a “respect your elders” thing in their culture, so it wouldn’t go down well with either MIL or my DH.

I wouldn't care what someone so rude thought of me, but if it 'wouldn't go down well' with your DH, then you have a bit of a problem. What do you mean-what would he say/do if you didn't have your MIL round much due to her rudeness?

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

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thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 19:24

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:18

She leaves but will come over again and be just as horrible if not more.

Don't invite her and tell your DH that she can't come if he isn't there. She just takes the opportunity to be horrible to you when you are on your own with her. Don't let that happen again. What's the worst she could do if you refuse to host her without your DH?

CatsWhiskerz · 01/04/2025 19:27

Honestly, tell your DH to tell her to wind her neck in! What an absolute bitch!
Also stop being a push over, you need to stand up to her, it's y comfortable but you hold the cards, you can live without her, she needs your family unit

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 19:28

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

How would your DH feel if your parents were rude and overbearing to him? If they told him that everything he did was wrong? Would he be OK with that? I very much doubt it.

She is making you cry and you are a nervous wreck in her company. That isn't acceptable and your DH needs to understand and protect you. He certainly shouldn't inflict his awful mother on you when he isn't there.

goldenretrieverenergy · 01/04/2025 19:32

She sounds awful.

Time to stop her visits and let your DH deal with her.

Lookuptotheskies · 01/04/2025 19:33

She's a bully!

She's putting you down, making you feel like crap, undermining you, offering no support, telling her own daughters they're fat, telling your dad her school is rubbish, etc. It sounds like most of the family let her rule and she hates that you don't so she's chipping away at you.

How often does she currently visit? I'd drastically cut it down to an absolute bare minimum. Be very busy with playdates out of the house, kids activities, baby/toddler classes, etc. Have a full week that really benefits the kids and you, and leaves little time for her to bring you down.

I'd also perhaps suggest your DH has an afternoon where he goes to visit her with the kids once a month to give you a short break. It's great you are both happy with the division of labour but this may be a way to give you a little respite from mumming, and give HIM a little 1:1 with his critical mother telling his daughter her school is crap. 🙄😡

Annoyed123456 · 01/04/2025 19:33

toomuchfaff · 30/03/2025 21:20

I'm another one in total agreement here. DH can be responsible for interactions with his mother.

In every contact, Every single time she says something rude - call it out.

Sheila - did you mean to be so rude then, it came across as rude and insensitive.

Sheila, what do you mean - that sounded very rude.

Sheila - would you repeat? I'm not sure if heard you correctly, 🤔

Letting DH deal with visits makes sense, but watch out if MIL is at all malicious. The last thing you need is her undermining you behind your back.

Make sure he tells her the behavior is inappropriate.

MeridaBrave · 01/04/2025 19:33

Don’t invite her round when it’s just you. Find a yoga class on eg a Sunday morning and have your DH be responsible for yours kids relationship with his mother at that time.

Nn9011 · 01/04/2025 19:36

You did the right thing. You also need to consider the impact on your kids. Their seeing you upset and not speaking, having been there it creates a lot of frustration and can lead to outbursts. It's also showing them it's ok to be treated this way. If your husband says it's normal you tell him to read what you've written and tell him that he needs to go to counseling if he can't see there is a problem with how she behaves.

Lookuptotheskies · 01/04/2025 19:37

Also, I'm curious what happens if she visits and you have a friend round, or a member of your family there??

Is she still rude?

If so, does anyone say anything to her?

Elsvieta · 01/04/2025 20:21

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

Because DH expects you to put up with it doesn't mean you have to. Stop letting her visit when he's not home, let him complain all he likes, and don't budge. You can't go on like this.

Beaniebobbins · 01/04/2025 20:26

I did this and it has not ended well. After years of difficult behaviour I told MIL I did not want her in my house or near my children. She was awful, waking babies, upsetting toddlers, commenting on weight, racist comments, misogynistic comments, wouldn’t leave you in peace, would throw my things out and replace them with her own old tat, I’d be expected to cancel or rearrange any plans I had to accommodate for her so missed many days with my own family. Eventually I had enough and demanded she left and didn’t come back. But I am now “the bad person”. DH says he can’t cope with me not getting along with his mum and I am making him miserable. He doesn’t have a bad word to say about his mum, even though for many years he also avoided her and after he had an accident a few years back I had to deal with her on his behalf because he couldn’t cope with her and under no circumstances wanted her to come round. But she is apparently the wronged party here. Even though I told DH how bad I found it and that she she gave me anxiety and that I would sit in the car and cry before going in the house to see her. I am still a terrible person while she is a blameless angel. So now it looks like my own little family is broken, DH hates me. I’ll not get to see my two DC every day and they are everything to me, I can’t bear the thought of not tucking them up every night. Just don’t know what to do any more. I just feel like I can’t face the world right now.

MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 01/04/2025 20:29

Bitch! OP you need dh too be on board you Will happily respect respectful elders

If she comes again as you open the door be brutally blunt, I'm not in the mood for rude and undermining comments today just to warn yiu

If she starts say okay that's it I warned you please leave.

If she's rude Infront if DC defend yourself and them

MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 01/04/2025 20:30

@Beaniebobbins your DH sounds like he's in fog.
Go to relate counselling

simpledeer · 01/04/2025 20:34

Don’t see her without DH present. If she’s nasty, you take your children and leave.

She’s a nasty piece of work and you need to toughen up and deal with her. If DH doesn’t like it, he can fuck off too.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 01/04/2025 20:41

This is definitely a ‘problem DH’ more than a ‘problem MIL’ thread.

He’s coming across as a bit spineless, happy to see his wife in tears as long as mummy dearest is happy.

YoungSoak · 01/04/2025 20:42

She sounds like an absolute wagon.

I would make sure you are very busy and sign the kids up for lots of activities so you are not available for visits. Once a fortnight for a couple of hours sounds plenty. I’d also visit in her house instead of hosting her so you can leave when you want. Get a ring doorbell and don’t answer if the bitch comes knocking!

clrd · 01/04/2025 20:52

Lookuptotheskies · 01/04/2025 19:37

Also, I'm curious what happens if she visits and you have a friend round, or a member of your family there??

Is she still rude?

If so, does anyone say anything to her?

She doesn’t tend to come if I have other visitors, as she’ll arrange before but very persistently. My own mum is coming for the day? Well she’ll be over the next day then. We’ve got swimming 10-12? Ok she’ll be round for 12:30. We’re having lunch outside? Ok then 2pm. Busy after 2pm? Ok she’ll join us at swimming or come over for breakfast or come for bedtime (THE worst time to visit) or bring lunch the following day (and comment how I’m not feeding kids enough X or Y)

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clrd · 01/04/2025 20:54

Lookuptotheskies · 01/04/2025 19:33

She's a bully!

She's putting you down, making you feel like crap, undermining you, offering no support, telling her own daughters they're fat, telling your dad her school is rubbish, etc. It sounds like most of the family let her rule and she hates that you don't so she's chipping away at you.

How often does she currently visit? I'd drastically cut it down to an absolute bare minimum. Be very busy with playdates out of the house, kids activities, baby/toddler classes, etc. Have a full week that really benefits the kids and you, and leaves little time for her to bring you down.

I'd also perhaps suggest your DH has an afternoon where he goes to visit her with the kids once a month to give you a short break. It's great you are both happy with the division of labour but this may be a way to give you a little respite from mumming, and give HIM a little 1:1 with his critical mother telling his daughter her school is crap. 🙄😡

She visits quite randomly. Popping in for “an hour” (it’s never an hour) as she’s in the area and knows we’ll be in. Knows we’ll be at the zoo till 4pm because that’s when it closes so she’ll come after. Letting us know she’d love to bring the kids pastries for breakfast or pick up from school (it’s not like I can say my child won’t be at school pickup today)

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7yo7yo · 01/04/2025 20:58

I wonder how your “D”H would feel if your mum put him down like she does to you.
stop crying and say we don’t tolerate bullying in this house and what you are doing is bullying.
your husband is shit FWIW.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 01/04/2025 20:58

I think you need to say to her, very firmly, that her purported visit is absolutely not going to be convenient for you, and won't be happening.

Just say, "No, I don't want you to come. I just don't. You are rude and overbearing. I've decided I'm not putting up with it anymore. So no, you can't come round."

suburburban · 01/04/2025 21:00

She should be helping you not being unkind

does she have a spouse

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 01/04/2025 21:01

Or if she's appeared on your doorstep, don't let her in. Tell her you simply don't want to see her, and shut the door.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 21:05

Urgh, it's like you are being haunted by a malevolent ghost.

You must be constantly on edge with someone so dreadful popping in all the time. You really need to tell your DH that she is seriously affecting your mental health, that she makes you anxious and panicky and close to tears. He's being really unfair expecting you to put up with this level of contact with someone who is so awful to you.

simpledeer · 01/04/2025 21:08

Don’t open your door to her. Let her have a wasted visit. If she messages you, just say it’s not convenient, she had better arrange something with DH.

Don’t be scared of her. So what if she gets the hump. Let her.