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AIBU to start limiting contact with my MIL for my 3 kids?

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clrd · 30/03/2025 20:53

We have three kids—5, 3, and almost 1. My husband works very long hours and earns well, which allows me to be a SAHM (what I’d always wanted to be). Our setup works well: I handle the kids’ schedules, education, health, as well as family visits because if we only saw family when my husband was available, it would eat into our rare family time and mean the kids saw their grandparents much less. It seems to work well with everything except MIL’s visits.

The problem is, the more kids we have, the more overbearing my MIL becomes. She has an opinion on everything. Every visit, she reminds me she doesn’t like the school our eldest goes to (she knows I was the one who researched and chose it). She constantly brings up how I “didn’t breastfeed for long enough” with my youngest, jokingly guesses if I’m pregnant and regularly jokes that it’s time for me to get pregnant again to “keep up the pattern.” When I brush it off, she’ll shake her head and say things like, “Well, you don’t want to leave an awkward gap, do you?” as if our family planning is somehow her decision. She also completely undermines my parenting whenever she visits. If I say it’s bedtime, she’ll immediately counter with, “Oh, don’t be silly! Granny’s still here, they can stay up late.”

When I was pregnant with my youngest, I had horrible morning sickness. One afternoon, MIL was over while I was struggling to get through the day, barely able to keep food down. As I’d been trying to keep 2 toddlers happy all morning, I thought now that their gran is here maybe I’ll sit and relax for a minute. She looked me up and down and said, “Just because you’re pregnant doesn’t mean you can stay on the sofa all day - the kids will think it’s new baby’s fault their mum doesn’t play with them. Also put some make up on before DH gets home - men love with their eyes” all said in a tone as if she’s doing me a favour sharing her advice based on a lifetime of experience and knowledge. I was exhausted, nauseous, and barely holding it together, and I just burst into tears. Instead of apologizing, she just rolled her eyes and muttered, “Oh, it’s just hormones.”

Another time, she made a comment that actually reduced me to tears in front of my kids. The baby had been fussy all morning, I was dealing with a tantrum from my toddler, and my eldest was whining about something minor. I was completely overwhelmed. MIL just sighed dramatically and said, “Maybe if you gave them more time each individually, they wouldn’t act like this.” I just broke. For context, they have all my time. I rarely go anywhere without them and spend all day every day making sure they’re healthy, happy and being developed. Admittedly it’s mainly with all 3 (or now, 2 of them, as the oldest is at school) rather than 1 on 1. I started crying right there while my kids stared at me, and instead of offering any kindness, she just muttered, “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

For context, my husband is from a culture where grandparents are much more involved, often even living with their adult children. That’s not how we’ve structured our family, but it explains why MIL sees herself as having a bigger role than I think is appropriate.

My husband is an amazing dad, incredibly supportive, and earns more than enough to provide us with a very comfortable life. We even have a housekeeper, so it’s not like I’m drowning in housework, it’s just that every time MIL is here, I feel constantly judged, criticised, and completely dismissed.

Would I be unreasonable to start limiting contact, even if that means the kids see her less?

OP posts:
Frostykitty · 01/04/2025 21:11

You have to remember you have the power in this relationship. I actually think you need to put some firm boundaries in place, and then try very hard to keep them and not show emotion when she tries these tricks.

So, like the school comment, take her to one side away from the children and say "I want to make this clear. I am happy for you to come and see the children, but I will not tolerate any more comments about my choice of school. I am not repeating this".

Them go back to your dcs and let her huff. If she tries again (and she will, and she'll get angry, and cry and all the usual nonsense) you just repeat, we are not discussing this.

And then repeat for numbet of children, breastfeeding etc.

Be firm!

Needlenardlenoo · 01/04/2025 21:17

How is she contacting you? Make it much harder. "Lose" your phone. Get a new number. Don't share it. Special ringtone or alert for her. Answerphone. Don't pick up. Ring doorbell.

Please tell me she doesn't have a key...

Set up a regular time DH takes the kids to see her. Take up a hobby at that time.

Find your anger. She's a bully as pp have said. Try to pity her rather than getting upset.

Masmavi · 01/04/2025 21:54

Your MIL doesn't get to choose. It is time to draw your boundaries and stuck to them. No grandparent is automatically allowed contact with their very young grandchildren if the grandparent does not respect the children's mother. Later when they're older they can establish their own relationship but right now you are in charge. Please start to stand up for yourself. In laws from another culture or the same do not get to dictate what their children and their partners do, or how they bring up their children. Be very very clear: I don't like how you are speaking to me and if it continues, you will have to leave/That's not something I wish to discuss, it's private/We have made our decision and I ask you to respect that etc etc. Look up the Holistic Psychologist for more 'scripts' for dealing with relatives.

Masmavi · 01/04/2025 22:02

I've just read the part about your husband not supporting you. You should also make it clear to him that you won't tolerate this kind of behaviour. Please try and stop being the link between her and your children. You don't have to be that in these circumstances. If he won't support you and show a united front you need to do it alone. He is clearly enmeshed and doesn't know how to be his own person around his mother. This is unhealthy and isn't a good example to your children as they grow up.
Believe me, I speak from experience. You will have to hold your boundaries strongly and repeatedly for a while and it will be hard but then it will reset your relationship, with her and the dynamic involving your husband too. Otherwise this will get worse and has the potential to ruin your marriage.

MayaPinion · 01/04/2025 22:04

Thank her for babysitting and walk out.

Or

’Fucking hell, Sheila. Why do you need to be so fucking rude and unpleasant ALL the fucking time? It must be EXHAUSTING.’

’I don’t need to put up with this shit from you. I’m blocking you and any time you want to see the children you can go through Bob, because I am done with your rudeness and condescension.’

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/04/2025 22:12

I think you do need to focus on caring less. Just stop listening to it and change the subject.

PrettyParrot · 01/04/2025 22:19

Put a MIL Bingo card up on a cupboard door in the kitchen - draw it yourself if you have to. Include entries like:

Criticising school choice
Criticising meal choice
When will you be pregnant again?
Your tiredness is your own fault

Etc - I'm sure you have more!

clrd · 01/04/2025 22:19

@Lookuptotheskiesoh and also to add - he works a lot of weekends (in addition to week days), so when we do get a rare weekend with each other it feels like a shame to dedicate it to his mum.

I honestly wish we could never see her. But not an option

OP posts:
Nosaucelikemintsauce · 01/04/2025 22:25

Keep gwh door locked.. Shout form na upstairs window sorry you are napping/bathing /having one to one with dc. That dh will ring to arrange a visit. Start being bloody rude... She isn't afraid to.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 01/04/2025 23:08

I would tell her that she isn’t to come round unless she has arranged to see your DH as you don’t want to be around her.

Grey rock her. Every time she tries to argue just tell her that you won’t facilitate her. If she comes she will be stuck in the door step and then repeat.

DH may have cultural expectations (in other words no backbone to stand up to mummy dearest) but so do you and you aren’t expected to put up with this shit.

His mother so he facilitates the relationship with the children.

When she can behave, you will engage with her, but until then, no chance.

If he kicks back then I think you have a very serious problem and that requires a bigger resolution.

Time for him to stand wit his family.

Garliccheeseandabagel · 01/04/2025 23:53

She's a Grade A bitch! Them seeing her less would be a good thing. It's not ok for them to see you treated so badly by her and you just accepting it. If DH wants DC to have a relationship with her he can facilitate it. Nowhere in the job description of wife and mother does it say you have to tolerate being belittled, undermined and generally treated like shit by your MIL. If your DH thinks you should, then you have a DH problem. Don't put up with him dedicating all his free weekends to his mum either, you're right that's family time for your nuclear family. If he doesn't have much free time he'll have to see his mum just a few times a year, which is quite normal for very busy people or those who live far away. He has his own family now (you and DC) and that comes first before his extended family (the one he was born into). Or it should do. Too many men have their priorities all wrong and mummy dearest remains in the No.1 spot all their lives. Totally unfair on their wives and DC. Men like that should stay single and childfree.

nutbrownhare15 · 02/04/2025 00:03

He isn't an amazing dad if he stands by and lets you be abused by his mother like this. There needs to be a really serious conversation about the harmful impact on you and how you will both be handling this from how on. What boundaries will be out in place and how to respond if boundaries aren't respected. He needs to support his wife and you shouldn't have to deal with this on your own. First rule, no more seeing her on your own. You decide how much you want to see her, if at all.

AnonMJ · 02/04/2025 00:07

Avoid her.

Don’t let her in when your OH is out.

dont go to see her.
If he wants her to have time with the kids then he takes them to her .

be very busy.

think about whether she is allowed the kids on her own.

my MiL was vile when my kids were small. She was losing her son…..

she is ok now.

I don’t let my parents near my kids tho.

so. YANBU at all.

Garliccheeseandabagel · 02/04/2025 00:29

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

Remind him that you're a separate person. He can put up with whatever behaviour from her that he wants to, but you aren't him, you're not his 5th limb, you're a person in your own right. You have feelings and emotions and thoughts and needs and wants. He doesn't get to dictate what type of relationship you have with his mother, you're not his secretary.

He doesn't get to tell you to put up with her toxicity. How dare he tell you that! Find your anger. There's nothing wrong with your reactions to her behaviour, you're behaving normally in response to her nastiness. He's the one behaving abnormally about it, because he's been trained since childhood to accept it. It isn't a good thing, it's very unhealthy. His (lack of) reactions aren't better than your reactions, it's a sign of their relationship being dysfunctional.

Separate the two problems. Deal with MIL by ending your relationship with her, you have the power to do that.

Deal with DHs bad attitude separately, that's a marriage issue and actually nothing to do with your MIL. It wouldn't matter who the nasty behaviour was coming from, he'd be just as unreasonable in expecting you to put up with it.

You're not the nanny or the housekeeper, you don't get to log off and go home from this, you're his wife and this is your life. You're entitled to a basic quality of life that doesn't involve tolerating other people's nastiness, whoever they may be. If he really doesn't believe that, then why stay married to him?

If he's not standing up for you over this then he's enabling his mother's bullying of you, choosing to sacrifice your well-being rather than risk his mum being annoyed with him, which means he's just as much of a shit as she is. You're not some kind of human shield for him to hide behind, taking all the flack from MIL yourself whilst he avoids having to have a relationship with her by working all hours. He can't use you and DC as a way of having a relationship with his mother by proxy, with him reaping all of the benefits and none of the angst.

People have annual leave in all jobs as well as downtime. Maybe he needs to be taking a day off now and then for the sole purpose of going to visit his mother, if he doesn't have enough downtime from work to fit her in as well as his wife and DC. IDK how much annual leave he gets but I'm sure he could spare a day or two per year for someone like MIL, who he wants to maintain a relationship with.

BeaAndBen · 02/04/2025 00:39

He needs to back you up, this is ridiculous. You are a grown woman, a mother of three, not a small child to be reprimanded!

”I don’t appreciate your comments, MIL. Please keep them to yourself. The children and I are have plans now, I’ll grab your coat while you say goodbye to them.”

Garliccheeseandabagel · 02/04/2025 01:11

So now it looks like my own little family is broken, DH hates me. I’ll not get to see my two DC every day and they are everything to me, I can’t bear the thought of not tucking them up every night. Just don’t know what to do any more. I just feel like I can’t face the world right now.

@Beaniebobbins Your own little family was always broken, you just didn't know it. It was doomed from the day you got involved with an enmeshed man and his toxic mother, although it wasn't 💯 guaranteed. He could have changed, could have seen the light, did at one point it seems. But ultimately he's chosen his side - right next to mummy dearest.

He's chosen to leave you (even if it's you divorcing him, he's left you no choice and he's already checked out emotionally). He's the one who destroyed your little family. Even if you stayed, it'd still be destroyed because your health and wellbeing would be destroyed, which would mean you couldn't be the best mother.

If you'd stayed, you would have continued the dysfunction down the generations, showing your DC first-hand that toxic behaviour is to be tolerated. Normalising it and minimising it and causing them to suffer, possibly for their whole lives, as a result of that teaching.

By leaving you're showing them it's possible to stand up for yourself, that it's necessary and that there's a better way to live than mired in toxicity.

It's hard, but you're doing the right thing. As opposed to your STBXH, who's doing the easiest thing and scapegoating you instead of standing up to his mother.

TheHerboriste · 02/04/2025 01:39

Jesus Christ. I would not put up with any of that for five minutes let alone years. Why have so many kids by a weakling who doesn’t have your back 100 percent of the time???

TheHerboriste · 02/04/2025 01:40

nutbrownhare15 · 02/04/2025 00:03

He isn't an amazing dad if he stands by and lets you be abused by his mother like this. There needs to be a really serious conversation about the harmful impact on you and how you will both be handling this from how on. What boundaries will be out in place and how to respond if boundaries aren't respected. He needs to support his wife and you shouldn't have to deal with this on your own. First rule, no more seeing her on your own. You decide how much you want to see her, if at all.

This.

And go out & buy chains for the inside of the doors. If she shows up uninvited, that’s her problem.

Starlight7080 · 02/04/2025 03:48

Just dont have her over without dh being home .
And definitely avoid her being around near children's bedtimes .

Starlight7080 · 02/04/2025 03:49

TheHerboriste · 02/04/2025 01:40

This.

And go out & buy chains for the inside of the doors. If she shows up uninvited, that’s her problem.

Definitely this .
Although seems to be because he earns well he can do no wrong

BonnieBug · 02/04/2025 04:35

Oh hell no.
You dont have to suffer this poxy bully!
Sod the culture thing, I used to make excuses based on culture and personality too, these people know what they're doing.....
Have you told you husband that his mum is being a massive bitch to you?

LAMPS1 · 02/04/2025 06:22

In terms of the very little time spent with your DH, it seems to me that you are almost like a single mum. Neither of you want your precious together time as a family spent with MIL present or spent having to talk about how she upsets you.

So I think you have to toughen up a bit OP and deal with her and the situation on your own.
It’s a matter of training her to respect you so you have to be firm and clear and follow through.

You can deal with her firstly, by controlling the number of visits to your home. Cut out her popping in type visits altogether. ‘MIL, the children are getting older now, and we are busier than ever with far less free time so a Monday afternoon from 3 till 6 will be good for you to visit, but please don’t ever pop in unannounced as it won’t be convenient to me.’ Say it kindly but assertively. And mean it.
If she has a key, get the locks changed, no need to tell her in advance that you lost your keys.
Don’t answer the door at any but the appointed time, or open it and say ‘Sorry MIL, this isn’t the agreed time and it’s not convenient to visit us right now, but we’ll see you on Monday from 3 till 6 as planned, if you can make it’,

Act happy to see her at the appointed time. That is until she says something upsetting to you. Then look her in the eye and calmly say ‘MIL, I respect your wisdom as an elder most of the time but you are wrong to say that/bring up that topic again/criticise me yet again/label me as sensitive/interfere in our decisions/contradict my wishes, so please don’t upset your weekly visits to see the children again or I will be forced to limit them. Say it assertively. And mean it. No discussions, it isn’t up for debate.

Accept invitations to her home only if and when you want to. When you arrive, be happy to see her and to graciously accept her hospitality but use the same technique of calling her out on her words the moment she upsets you. MIL, I respect your wisdom as an elder most of the time, but I won’t allow you to demean me/impose your will on my children against my wishes/manipulate or try to control/ say such rude things in front of my children.’ etc. Then quietly leave without any drama, if she argues or she does it again.

She’s a strong character but you can and must get her used to having to respect you much more than she does. Stand up for yourself and kindly show her how it’s going to be from now on.

Crapola25 · 02/04/2025 06:37

You need boundaries. You don't need to put up with this. She sounds insufferable. I haven't spoken to my MIL for 2 years and leave it to DH to facilitate a relationship between her and our son. Best decision I ever made. I called her out on her behaviour and she would always say "im sorry you feel that way". People like that won't change.

bigvig · 02/04/2025 06:40

The only thing you can control OP is your own behaviour and reaction. Cut down the visits or make sure they are shorter by always having something you need to get off to do an hour after she arrives. When she's rude just laugh and say 'oh you're always so rude' or 'yes you always say that' She wants a reaction, she wants to hurt you just throw it back at her.

Heidi2018 · 02/04/2025 06:42

I would tell your DH you aren't facilitating these visits anymore. She can either visit for one hour when he is there or he can take the kids to hers for one hour and give you a break!

Aa for respecting elders, respect is earned and she certainly doesn't deserve much. Time to stand up for yourself. If your daughter was dealing with this treatment from someone, what would you want her to do!?

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