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AIBU?

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He invaded my space/was creepy. I feel angry - even days afterwards.

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septembernights · 28/03/2025 19:11

Hi,

I was debating posting this, but I can't keep it in any longer and feel like I need a safe space to vent/question if I am being unreasonable.

The other day, after visiting my goddaughter, I had some time to kill - before heading out for dinner. I went to a hotel bar as I was in the city. It's a bar I've been going to for 20+ years. I had my work bag (thinking I was going to head to the office once free) but because dinner was nearby to where my goddaughter and her mother were - I decided to work at the bar. It's a lovely establishment, not loud etc... I also had a book in my bag.

I get to the bar and immediately 'feel' a man opposite staring at me. I shook it off and got my laptop/book out. Still, I could feel him staring. He then looked like he was leaving - great! He ended up coming over to me, saying hello - and asking if I could watch his stuff for him... except his stuff was on the other side of the bar...? I said 'I'm sure your stuff will be fine - no one is going to steal it!'

He then came back, got his belongings, sat next to me and offered me some chocolates - which was in one of the bags. I politely declined. He didn't relent/move. He acknowledged that he noticed the staff were familiar with me and said this place must be 'my local' - as it was his too. Great(!)

He ordered himself a drink - and offered me one. I said no. He then kept trying to chat - and after some polite interaction and I explained that I had work to do. He apologised and then touched me on my shoulder and in one movement - moved his hands down to mine and apologised again. I recoiled away from him. He must have thought he was being a gentleman in the way he was profusely apologising, but it really didn't feel like that.

I said I was going to move - at which point he proceeded to wrap up/leave. He asked for my number - I said no - and then said: 'Not to worry, since this is your local - I'm sure I'll see you in here again soon, no doubt...' - but he said it with a smile. He told me to 'take care' as he left. I found out he settled my check/bill - which annoyed me. I am capable of buying my own wine. I don't want to 'owe' him anything should I ever see him again.

It has been a few days now and I am mad - as in really angry. I'm angry that I wasn't stronger - even though he didn't do anything so awful. I feel like I can't go back to my place again. The older I get, the less patience I have. I wish I had the guts to speak up more and could have told him to F off. I'm tired of being 'nice' for fear of a man getting angry/violent.

Sorry if this is nonsensical - I'm just angry and raging. I'm getting my period next week, so maybe I am PMS-ing. But AIBU to feel angry days later? Why didn't I speak up? Why didn't I just move from the outset?

Please no abusive comments. I think I am just sensitive at the moment. :(

OP posts:
kiwiane · 05/04/2025 07:08

I would report this to the police - the fact that he was stalking you and touched you again is a concern.
I’m sorry but it seems he’s ruined this bar for you.

SapporoBaby · 05/04/2025 07:28

If you see him again, tell the staff. Warn them that he made you uncomfortable last time and you’d appreciate them intervening if he approaches you again. I used to run a bar and it happened more than you’d think and I was always happy to walk over and say ‘excuse me sir, but if you would please keep yourself to yourself we would appreciate it’. Then if they didn’t I’d tell them to leave and warn them if they did it again they’re barred.

It once resulted in me chasing a man out with a pool cue but I was happy to do so.

SapporoBaby · 05/04/2025 07:28

Sorry I hadn’t RTFT

Fraaances · 05/04/2025 07:40

Omg I am so glad you’re safe! This guy sounds very stalky/predatory. I’m also pleased you have CCTV footage in case he wanders around the area until you show again.
As for people criticizing you for working in a bar, well that’s insane. We should be able to sit in peace with our thoughts and not have to pretend to be grateful because some bloke has deigned to favour us with his attention! We shouldn’t have to fight for our right to our own space and time. As far as I am concerned, as long as you weren’t watching porn at that table, the laptop was a clear sign that you WEREN’T looking for attention.

Reddog1 · 05/04/2025 08:59

IOSTT · 04/04/2025 21:37

Definitely report to the police OP - he tried to push you into a car. He is a dangerous psychopath. When you said in your opening post he offered you some chocolates he had, I did think that seemed a random thing for him to bring to a bar, and wondered if the chocolates contained date rape drugs.

Edited

ooh yes - I hadn’t thought of the chocolates. Good point.
😡
OP I’d be inclined to report this to the police too.

Giggorata · 05/04/2025 09:36

So glad you're OK, OP. A very dangerous situation.
This man is already stalking you - hanging about for two hours until you leave demonstrates a level of obsession that is worrying.
Please make a full on complaint to the police, not just a log with 101 situation.
And above all, please be very careful and watchful from now.

Not going to that bar is a good start, but he knows where you work from the laptop, and this sort of person can persistently and easily find out more, your name, number, maybe even address.
Vary your routines, your routes to work, your usual habits. Beef up your home security. Don't walk anywhere alone. Yes, this sounds melodramatic, but look, this man pounced on you in the short distance between bar and Uber, oblivious to a driver and maybe passers by as witnesses. This is extreme.
I am not saying this to frighten you (and it is frightening) but to beg you to take steps to be safe.

IDontHateRainbows · 05/04/2025 12:57

Jeez what a nut bag, glad the hotel took it seriously. He must have dome this before o other women, but maybe this is the first time he got caught.
He will no doubt be vengeful against you now as he will blame you for getting barred. Do take care.

PinotDragon86 · 05/04/2025 17:51

Please log this with the police. I don't say that lightly. If it isn't you it will be someone else (please don't take that as a guilt trip, I mean it with the very best of intentions and feel you had a close call). This nut bag could be really dangerous, he may even have previous for this type of behaviour.

PinotDragon86 · 05/04/2025 17:52

Also I hope you haven't been too rattled by this piece of dirt ❤️

Sunshineandoranges · 05/04/2025 18:01

Haven’t read the ft so someone might have suggested this..I think you should talk to 101 and ask if the police could check his photo on their records. He could be a real menace. Hopefully he is a harmless twit.

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