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For telling my friend she was ridiculous to bring a 7 year old for a spa day!

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Senuousnotsensuous · 15/03/2025 21:25

My friend Emily has a 7 year old daughter Milly who she brings every time we meet up either when it’s just the two of us or with a group of our other friends.

Emily insists Milly wants to come but it’s frustrating as we can never have a conversation without her giving her opinion or Milly takes over and Emily sits smiling proudly, she often comments on her daughter’s maturity and how she loves joining us.

We do occasionally get time when Milly is at school but any weekend meet ups are the same, Milly could stay with her dad at home but apparently gets very upset when she’s not invited so Emily gives in and lets her come. We have had a few occasions where we have met up in restaurants for a meal in the evenings and Milly has often made an appearance, the whole evening ends up revolving round her.

My other friends said they were fed up with this as well, we stopped inviting Emily as often but she noticed and was hurt.
I managed to get her to meet me one to one and asked if she was being persuaded by her husband to bring Milly and said I was concerned that she never seemed to get time to herself, she insisted that wasn’t the case and said she thought we loved seeing Milly.
I explained that no one else brought their kids along and wanted adult time and as much as we liked Milly it’s frustrating to get childcare for other kids for a childfree evening then Milly being allowed to come.
Its not fair on the other kids and changes the dynamic and means Emily has to leave early. We are sick of censoring the conversation and being unable to talk freely.
Emily agreed to stop bringing Milly along unless other kids were going to be present.

A few weeks ago we booked a spa day for today for 3 of us and Emily.
The package included a 25 minute massage treatment each and use of the facilities for 3 hours and afternoon tea with Prosecco.
I didn’t think not to ask Emily not to bring Milly as surely it’s common sense?!

Well the spa was booked for 10am and Emily brought Milly. We asked her how she possibly thought this would work and she said Milly wanted to use the pool and we could watch her when Emily had her massage.
Emily was told by staff she couldn’t being Milly into the spa and got very upset and complained that she’d paid for the day, her husband refused to pick her up saying he’d agreed to work overtime now, Milly started crying hysterically.

I had no sympathy and told Emily one of the reasons we booked a spa day was in the hope of actually spending time with her alone and we never considered she’d bring Milly. My other friends were equally as unsympathetic and said she had brought this on herself and it was her own fault Milly was upset and if lost the money.

Emily had to leave with Milly and looked absolutely devastated, she didn’t apologise though she just kept saying how ridiculous it was that the spa wouldn’t let Milly in or make any exceptions.

After she left we all agreed it was time to stop inviting Emily anywhere as she obviously wasn’t going to stop bringing Milly, we were throughly pissed off about the whole thing.

One friend has just sent me a message saying Emily has been crying down the phone for hours on her and thinks we were maybe a bit harsh and that Emily said she finds it hard to leave Milly because she gets so upset when she can’t come along. She thinks we should apologise for getting so frustrated with her today.

I think the whole situation is fucking bizarre and if Emily was a struggling single parent I could maybe understand it, I have had enough though and I’m not apologising, I have tried to chat about it but she’s not willing to listen.

AIBU for not being more understanding? It’s not just me, my other friends feel the same, even the friend who thinks we should apologise said she thinks it’s best we no longer invite Emily.
I don’t think Emily is ever going to take in what we are saying and she will keep bringing Milly because she can’t say no to her.

OP posts:
Lollipop81 · 16/03/2025 18:49

Hate it when parents are so desperate for their kids to be mature. Let them be kids for gods sake, mine are 5 and 6 and they act like 5 and 6 year olds, I am in no rush for them to grow up and I don’t want them acting older than they are thank you.
As for your friend, it sounds like she has some serious issues. Nothing worse than getting a babysitter then having to deal with someone else’s kid 🤣 of course you are not in the wrong.

Pinkhat123 · 16/03/2025 18:52

Are you sure her husband isn’t abusive? How supportive has she said he has been? Sounds suspicious and she could be making excuses for him.

goldenretrieverenergy · 16/03/2025 18:54

Wishingplenty · 16/03/2025 18:12

In the continent this would be a non event. Funny how British culture divvys everyone up into sections and boxes.

I am from “the continent” and I think Emily is selfish and has an unhealthy relationship with her daughter.

I don’t know anyone who would think it’s okay to take a child to a spa day with their girlfriends.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 16/03/2025 18:57

I would be very irritated if I went to a spa day and there were children there, not conducive to a relaxing day. I wouldn’t dream of taking a child.

TwistedWonder · 16/03/2025 18:58

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 16/03/2025 18:57

I would be very irritated if I went to a spa day and there were children there, not conducive to a relaxing day. I wouldn’t dream of taking a child.

Agree. I’d complain if I booked a spa day and there was a primary aged child there

Laboheme78 · 16/03/2025 19:03

I have an acquaintance like this. Her children, particularly the daughter run her life. The mother has in my opinion made a rod for her own back, both children now in their teens. I just don’t see her much anymore. Became totally impossible to have any kind of conversation, even at her house the children would forever be appearing and needing something. YANBU.

Bitofanchange · 16/03/2025 19:09

Pinkhat123 · 16/03/2025 18:52

Are you sure her husband isn’t abusive? How supportive has she said he has been? Sounds suspicious and she could be making excuses for him.

Oh it must be an abusive husbands fault, couldn’t possibly be a batshit indulgent mothers fault…

🤦‍♀️

Doubledenim305 · 16/03/2025 19:10

Just stop meeting up with her. Problem solved 🙂

Bailamosse · 16/03/2025 19:11

Pinkhat123 · 16/03/2025 18:52

Are you sure her husband isn’t abusive? How supportive has she said he has been? Sounds suspicious and she could be making excuses for him.

If he’s abusive, she should leave him, not demand her child comes on spa days and lose the plot at her friends for days afterwards.

My money is on mother who lives through her child and massively spoilt child, as a result.

Retiredfromearlyyears · 16/03/2025 19:15

Silly sounds a spoiled little madam who has never been given boundaries! Emily is setting up a whole load of issues for herself in the future! I think the other women in the group are right to be annoyed. Let Milly and her mummy go their own way rejoicing!!

saladandchipp · 16/03/2025 19:15

Bugger. Clicked YABU totally by mistake and I can’t change my vote!

Milly is going to grow up to be an entitled brat.

Hankunamatata · 16/03/2025 19:18

It's a pet hate of mine that parents can't tell their children to go away and that the adults are talking or earwigging as I call it

Catherinexoxo · 16/03/2025 19:21

I accidentally clicked you are being unreasonable! You are not, this is really odd behaviour and honestly not good for the daughter

MarvellousMonsters · 16/03/2025 19:25

TheMousePipes · 15/03/2025 21:27

That’s fucking mental. Who takes a 7 year old to a spa day? Your friend is an idiot.

Yep. That’s all.

FozzieP · 16/03/2025 19:26

Emily needs advice on parenting ie saying no and setting boundaries. Milly is going to grow up either feeling very entitled or paranoid about being not wanted, and, either way, it will all be at Emily’s door.

independentfriend · 16/03/2025 19:28

Not your problem but there might well be more to this than a mum who can't say no to a child. Milly may not feel safe away from her mum for justifiable or not so objectively sensible reasons. So don't be surprised if a back story emerges from Emily over time.

justanotherimperfectmum2025 · 16/03/2025 19:33

It would be completely different if the Mother is a singe parent, who has no one else to look after her Daughter, or struggling financially for child care, but she has a partner, who’s the Dad, so can’t understand why he can’t take over parenting responsibilities every now and then, (if he is working, that’s different).

The mother needs to stop pandering to the Daughter and be more firm. 7 is old enough to explain to and understand that mummy needs ‘grown up time’, especially when all her other friends do not bring their children to these occasions where they get together.

Cojones · 16/03/2025 19:35

Oh OP I feel for you. Emily won’t stop bringing Milly. I have a friend who does this, has been doing it for years. Has alienated her husband with her helicopter parenting (there was a traumatic incident that kicked this up a notch) and we overlooked the inclusion for a while. Now the child is an adult, the mum is still over involved in the child’s life. It’s got so that when we meet, the child meets its own friends then comes to the location we are at and once arrived the rest of us might as well be invisible. 🫥
So hope the child breaks free and lives her own life but the mother is so invested I can’t imagine it will happen.

Bitofanchange · 16/03/2025 19:41

independentfriend · 16/03/2025 19:28

Not your problem but there might well be more to this than a mum who can't say no to a child. Milly may not feel safe away from her mum for justifiable or not so objectively sensible reasons. So don't be surprised if a back story emerges from Emily over time.

Or it turns out that Milly’s mother is overly indulgent and bringing her daughter to be a total indulged madam.

ThePoliteLion · 16/03/2025 19:42

Mum needs professional help. That poor kid. Is this an enmeshed family? OP, YANBU and please stand firm.

LuckySantangelo35 · 16/03/2025 19:46

Grammarnut · 16/03/2025 18:32

Which suggests one reason we left the EU. Completely different mindset re children.

@Grammarnut @Wishingplenty

what do you mean? In which culture would it be ok for a mum to consistently bring her child to adult only events with her friends who very much do not want any kids there?

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 16/03/2025 19:49

Just read the 2017 hen do thread! Wow, some mums really do lose all sense of proportion when it comes to leaving their kids.

It is like they can’t see why there isn’t an exception for their child, normal rules don’t apply.

sellotapechicken · 16/03/2025 19:50

GreenCandleWax · 15/03/2025 22:54

Playing devil's advocate for a moment - is it possible that Emily does not want to leave Millie with her father? If so, does she have a good reason?

Did you read the op? She asked her that

Neighboursnumber1fan · 16/03/2025 20:02

I have a friend like this as well. Well it’s more that the child insists on coming and the mum doesn’t say no as I think she feels guilty that she works so much. Even when we do meet up with the kids (one of mine refuses to come now because of this child) the child insists on sitting with us taking over the conversation and trying to change it to suit her.

cardboardvillage · 16/03/2025 20:05

Why did she think the spa let kids in? She’s fucking given birth and had a lobotomy at the same
rime!