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To take away dd(13)s en-suite?

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thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 16:00

Dd(13) has bedroom with an ensuite, 3 year old is at the moment in a tiny room that basically just fits a bed and wardrobe.

We want to combine dd’s en-suite and DH’s office to make decent size bedroom for 3 year old.

Up until dd(13) was 11 and we moved to a bigger house she always had to share with either younger brother or older step sister.

She thinks as she had to share until she was 11, that younger siblings should share until then or be lucky and get tiny room of their own. And that by the time toddler is that age she will move out and she can have her room.

Is it unreasonable to take away her en-suite?

OP posts:
Clavinova · 17/03/2025 16:52

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 17:25

Yes, that's certainly been my experience. I have a 29 year old back at home now!

I blame the lack of an en-suite - you didn't encourage enough independence!

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 16:54

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 16:52

I blame the lack of an en-suite - you didn't encourage enough independence!

Obviously! Seeing he's back at home after his medical degree to do his first rotation in a local hospital.
Where did we go wrong?! 😭

8misskitty8 · 17/03/2025 16:59

Is there a floor plan ? Might help to see where rooms and bathrooms are, and see sizes.

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 17:03

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 16:44

She did. That's because she was remembering the strange claim that my childhood home - and millions of others, were "slums". 🙄

She [meaning you] did [understand the satire in my post]

Why did you reply with this?

'Blimey, that's a personal question!'

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 17:05

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 17:03

She [meaning you] did [understand the satire in my post]

Why did you reply with this?

'Blimey, that's a personal question!'

I was joking mate 😃.
Nada. This is only a thread about bathrooms. Not a biggie.

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 17:07

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 16:54

Obviously! Seeing he's back at home after his medical degree to do his first rotation in a local hospital.
Where did we go wrong?! 😭

Does he aspire to purchasing a property with an en-suite bathroom one day?

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 17:10

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 17:07

Does he aspire to purchasing a property with an en-suite bathroom one day?

One can only hope! His sister has bought a house with a downstairs toilet. You can imagine how proud I am. It also has a kitchen serving hatch. I could only imagine such things as a child .

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 17:16

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 17:10

One can only hope! His sister has bought a house with a downstairs toilet. You can imagine how proud I am. It also has a kitchen serving hatch. I could only imagine such things as a child .

His sister has bought a house with a downstairs toilet. You can imagine how proud I am.

Take a book when you visit your daughter and enjoy the convenience of modern-day living!

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 17:21

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 17:16

His sister has bought a house with a downstairs toilet. You can imagine how proud I am.

Take a book when you visit your daughter and enjoy the convenience of modern-day living!

I will! I will also sit on their sofa and tell them wistfully about the Olden Days.

Glittertwins · 17/03/2025 17:21

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/03/2025 15:34

That also makes more sense 😀

tho wonder why op bought this house 2yrs ago when she knew had to room 5 kids as 3yr was born then tho a baby /toddler

surely looking round it and only having 4 good size rooms and 2 small box room for 5 kids - surely shouldn’t have been bought

7 including parents room so 5 big for 6 rooms needed (5 kids and parents)

That’s where I was going when I said that the house didn’t seem to meet the family’s needs when they bought it

Weepixie · 17/03/2025 17:59

I think the teenage years would be the eorst years to take away the en-suite. And she does have a point about sharing. She did it. So should others.

But that is the viewpoint of someone who lives in a country where a house usually has a bathroom for every bedroom.

Liz1tummypain · 17/03/2025 17:59

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 17:10

One can only hope! His sister has bought a house with a downstairs toilet. You can imagine how proud I am. It also has a kitchen serving hatch. I could only imagine such things as a child .

A kitchen with a serving hatch - ooh I'm getting Pingu vibes :)

Here's hoping she didn't inherit the en-suite anxiety issues.

also, got an idea for your sons. How about you give them each a sign with their name on it, get your partner to put some kind of hook outside the bathroom door and whenever they use it, they hang their own sign up outside.. So they get to experience a bathroom which is just for them for that brief period of time. They deserve it whilst they try to navigate the cruel, cruel world where children have to grow up without their own en- suites.

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/03/2025 18:04

Glittertwins · 17/03/2025 17:21

That’s where I was going when I said that the house didn’t seem to meet the family’s needs when they bought it

You are right @Glittertwins

they moved house to a bigger one as kids sharing and then got a house that still isn’t big enough bedroom wise

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/03/2025 18:05

Cathandkin · 17/03/2025 17:10

One can only hope! His sister has bought a house with a downstairs toilet. You can imagine how proud I am. It also has a kitchen serving hatch. I could only imagine such things as a child .

You two are making me Pmsl

tho

i grew up in a house with a serving hatch from kitchen

what a memory

TickingAlongNicely · 17/03/2025 18:06

Weepixie · 17/03/2025 17:59

I think the teenage years would be the eorst years to take away the en-suite. And she does have a point about sharing. She did it. So should others.

But that is the viewpoint of someone who lives in a country where a house usually has a bathroom for every bedroom.

Well if two of the younger children need to share, they would need to be in the biggest of the children's bedrooms... which is the 13yos. So she would lose the big bedroom and the ensuite.

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/03/2025 18:09

Again a floor plan would help @thatsfunnybecause so we can see the sizes of rooms esp the two the boys have tho you say they can’t share due to needs

DrivingandInsurance · 17/03/2025 18:13

OP just do what you’re proposing. Your daughter will survive, to be honest I wouldn’t even do anything to soften it by doing things to her room.

saraclara · 17/03/2025 18:21

DrivingandInsurance · 17/03/2025 18:13

OP just do what you’re proposing. Your daughter will survive, to be honest I wouldn’t even do anything to soften it by doing things to her room.

Same here. By promising her the earth in return, you're implying that you're doing something unreasonable and need to make amends. You aren't and you don't.

My parents put in a wall to make my room half the size and create another small room. I was a teenager. I didn't kick off. It was something they felt they needed to do to make the house work better, and I just accepted that.

Of course because it involved building work, my room got redecorated and I seem to recall that I got a new bedcover. But there was no pleading on either side. The work was just a done deal.

Clavinova · 17/03/2025 21:32

saraclara
My parents put in a wall to make my room half the size and create another small room. I was a teenager. I didn't kick off. It was something they felt they needed to do to make the house work better, and I just accepted that.

Do you have fond memories of your childhood?

Marshbird · 17/03/2025 22:10

thatsfunnybecause · 16/03/2025 20:14

I don’t just want people to agree with me. The perspectives of people who think I’m being unreasonable are actually more helpful.

However I think we still do think that combining the office and dds en-suite is best for the whole family. It still feels more fair to have more even sized rooms for the kids and for none of them to have an ensuite. As the children get older I want them to always have a bedroom and I don’t want one to be stuck with the tiny box room unnecessarily. We have more that enough bathrooms, there’s never been a situation when they are all being used.

I do understand this means dd sacrificing though and that she will be upset and agree that we need to ‘soften the blow’ for her and make it so the renovations benefit her also.

Suggestions to do this
-Bedroom makeover. Specifically upgrading getting ready area (dressing table and wardrobe) + whatever else she wants (within reason)
-Refurbishment to both family bathrooms, happening anyway but one can becomes a boys bathroom and one is a girls bathroom (nice bath and large vanity space)
-playroom downstairs upgraded into entertainment room/teen hangout room (toys moved to living room) we don’t want a downstairs bedroom if it’s not necessary.
-left over box room given to girls, potentially extra wardrobe space.

An ER is brilliant (entertainment room) . Havexsontodfker stuff can go away in evenings and become teen hangout

we were lucky enough to have this with our kids in their teens. It was brilliant. It became the social hub for their friends as there weee no adults to share with. They could use it for sleep overs as we ensured furniture could be pushed back to create crash floor for sleepovers. It had their games consoles, music etc so no gaming in bedrooms late at night. And noise was limited as it was their own bedrooms above d as guest if music was loud

even when they were at university, I’d come downstairs in morning and see a row of shoes lined up in hall , meaning there were old school mates crashing down for night

people overlooking a space like this for teens, is just as important, if not more so, than a play room for younger kids

i loved that ER 😊

Rottweilermummy · 19/03/2025 07:17

Most small children only have a room with bed and wardrobe, i was 11 before I had a bigger bedroom, a 3 year old really doesn't need a bigger bedroom, unless you just take your husbands study, why the en suite too? At least they all have their own room. Extra bathrooms are so valuable, with 5 of you you will regret losing that bathroom. 2 of my boys always had to share, and the other one had small box room with bed and wardrobe.

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