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To not give up my job that DH hates?

315 replies

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
Daleksatemyshed · 13/03/2025 13:20

Unless he's always worked for himself then how can he not understand? Your job includes meetings and travel, you don't get to pick and choose which bits you'll do. I don't think he'd be any happier if you made more money, he won't come out and say it but he'd prefer you to work PT, preferably school hours and term time then he could please himself.

AnneElliott · 13/03/2025 13:21

The not spending money update means that he's a bit of a knob.

The kids need childcare to enable you both to work. Sounds like he's happy to fudge that in place of an ASC on the basis that he works for himself. Well that's fine but you don't - and most employers expect childcare in place until you've finished for the day.

In practical terms I get it - I was the higher earner for years and yet did all the crap and mental load as my job was more flexible. But it seems like your DH is resentful that he's taken on the woman's role. I know lots of other mothers who are also higher earners and doing the boring shit!

old2theforum · 13/03/2025 13:23

You earn £40k, he earns 3 times more, so your combined income is £160k. With that you should be able to get an au pair, cleaner and even get meals in.

MarkWithaC · 13/03/2025 13:23

mildlydispeptic · 13/03/2025 12:56

Sounds like he's fixating on the numbers and not registering how important your career is to you, on numerous levels. Would it be worth getting some marriage counselling?

I agree with this. 40K is not a bad salary, incidentally, but you've made massive progress and dealt admirably with your challenges, and your job and career clearly mean a lot to you. He should recognise and respect that.
I don't think it sounds like you ask him to shoulder a massive burden. Look at what women describe themselves as doing day in, day out, with no drama, some of the threads on here, for perspective.

DeepRoseFish · 13/03/2025 13:24

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:07

Isn't the problem all rooted in the fact that he sounds like an absolute arsehole who is angry, critiques you, is a misogynist and believes he's superior?
I continue to be blown away with why so many women would rather this life than the absolute peace of being single.

I think this is the case OP and he’d be the same whatever you do!

Being single is SO much better than dealing with this BS.

Tell him to pipe down or leave!

AlphaApple · 13/03/2025 13:26

This sounds far less about a fair share of domestics, or finances or anything and more about a domineering and controlling man who is aggrieved that you are not putting his needs front and centre 100% of the time.

Is he controlling in other ways? Do you see your friends and family on your own? Does he like them? Do they like him? Does he encourage your hobbies and interests?

Do you have a trusted friend you can talk this through with? Or would counselling help? It's not a happy life constantly being berated by your husband for perfectly normal job requirements.

DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB.

honeylulu · 13/03/2025 13:28

I can see why he's pissed off but he's also unreasonable because (a) a woman should always protect her own employability/pension/independent income and (b) as an employee you don't have the flexibility that he has.

I think the practical solution is to outsource more. I know there are many people who WFH and do school pick up and then work with the kids around but I find it impossible to concentrate properly so even when I WFH my youngest is at after school club (or holiday club) until 5.45/6 unless she's at home ill or something. My husband is the same when he WFH. It's like trying to juggle two jobs at once otherwise.

Outsource cleaning. Get shopping delivered if you don't already.

Waterweight · 13/03/2025 13:30

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:00

He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'.

Is he a bit thick? Or just a plain old misogynist?

To be fair. The company is treating her as available for international travel which would suggest shes either high up in the business or has the ability to be away from home - neither of which is true in her case as she's struggled progression wise & doesn't have a stay at home husband.

So without adequate compensation (IE. An extra travel fee which would cover the added expense of being away from home for a week+ including weekend) she should drop out.

Not to teach herself or her husband a lesson but to teach the company

coxesorangepippin · 13/03/2025 13:30

Keep your job op

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:32

DottieMoon · 13/03/2025 12:39

I agree with your DH.

What sort of company makes it mandatory to travel abroad for a week over the weekend too? Doesn’t sound like a decent one, this sort of expectation on only 40k? Sounds like a right piss take.

Regardless on whether the company say it’s mandatory, why would you as a parent not put your foot down and say this is unreasonable?

I'm a parent and I've never 'put my foot down' over international travel. My child has another parent who is capable of solo childcare for a week. It's not hard.

babyproblems · 13/03/2025 13:32

i was a bit stuck at first because yes he is earning most of the money AND doing most of the childcare… BUT then I thought it doesn’t matter what you are each earning IMO. Your money should all be pooled and all expenses paid. All remaining money split equally between you.
I think he wants to make you financially dependant on him so he has all the freedoms and all the income. Don’t allow this to happen with someone like this - he’s shown his true colours. When you ask him what the actual problem is for him what does he say??? If he is burning out, suggest you (both) buy in some help from outside. Problem solved. Don’t let him tell you you’re not as good as him at earning and therefore should just give up and stay at home so he can have freedom. No way. Could counselling help? He sounds very ignorant and self centred to make these arguments.

MotherOfCrocodiles · 13/03/2025 13:35

Hm your job sounds quite demanding for 40k in the private sector. That would be an ok ratio of commitment to money if you were in the junior stages of a 'big' career or perhaps working for a charity, but as a permanent role in the private sector- yes they are asking too much IMO

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:35

To be fair. The company is treating her as available for international travel which would suggest shes either high up in the business or has the ability to be away from home - neither of which is true in her case as she's struggled progression wise & doesn't have a stay at home husband.
So without adequate compensation (IE. An extra travel fee which would cover the added expense of being away from home for a week+ including weekend) she should drop out.
Not to teach herself or her husband a lesson but to teach the company

Do think it's only reasonable to be asked to travel if your partner is a stay at home parent? I mean, that's one way of keeping women out of certain professions I guess.

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

Ceramiq · 13/03/2025 12:27

TBH £40k is not a lot for a role that requires international travel for a week. I am forever reminding my DH (who runs a company) that he mustn't expect poorly paid female employees to have domestic back up at the drop of a hat (sometimes he moans that they don't want to come in person to meetings that involve two nights away midweek at short notice).

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:37

There are so many men who want their wives to work but not in a way that inconveniences them in any way or impacts wives’ domestic duties.

Do you hear women making such a fuss when their partner is away with work for a week?

FrozenFeathers · 13/03/2025 13:37

JoyousEagle · 13/03/2025 13:04

“I have my own business and earn 3x what DH does. I do the majority of childcare during the week with school pick ups. DH seems to think that because I work for myself, I can bend round his schedule, for example if I’m in the middle of something and he’s going to do school pick up, he’ll expect me to drop what I’m doing if a meeting gets set up for him. I have the children all afternoon and when DH comes home from working in the office, he goes straight to do cooking but I’d sometimes like him to take over the children while I cook. Now he has to do week long trips abroad which will put even more pressure on me to fit my work around the children. I feel like he thinks that because I work for myself, it’s not as important for me to get things done because I don’t have a boss monitoring things.”

He’d probably be called a cocklodger who takes the piss with childcare and doesn’t understand the work that goes into being self-employed.

Nice try, but in this instance the OP would be called controlling and unreasonable.

Mrsttcno1 · 13/03/2025 13:39

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

Yeah I can sort of see this to be honest.

If OP was posting to say that she was the higher earner AND the one doing the bulk of the childcare while her husband was working for less £ and going away for work she’d be told he’s a cock lodger and to leave him because he’s not adding anything.

InSpainTheRain · 13/03/2025 13:42

I would say definitely keep your job. To me his attitude seems quite controlling - anyone understands that you can't just pick the bits of a job they want or only do calls then they want, whether they have worked in the corporate world or not. Your travel doesn't seem excessive to me either. It also means that as a family you have a safety net; just say something happens to DH in terms of not being able to work for a bit or perhaps his business has a bit of a down turn - having another income is really important in this situation and takes the pressure off.

It should also count for a lot that you enjoy what you do and are progressing in your career this is great because it gives fulfillment and also is good for you and your future (savings, pension, expenses for yourself) otherwise you'd have to go to him for everything and you are more tied to him (but perhaps this is what he wants).

Our DC are young adults now but DH and I have always supported each other in our careers although sometimes it can be a bit tricky, we've worked round each others schedules, we always told each other in advance of trips so we could arrange cover (thank you MIL!) My DH thankfully realises that it's good for everyone to be fulfilled and we work as equal partners. I really hope you can successfully resolve this - and well done in your career so far - you go girl!

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:43

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

Whose sacrifice? His?!

40k is a perfectly healthy amount of money. She’s paying NI contributions and presumably into pension, that will pay dividends in the long run. How will he magic up another role that will suddenly pay double? Could she be paid more - sure, and she perhaps needs to have a serious conversation with her firm. But pressurising OP and making her feel bad about her income she’s worked so hard for is unacceptable.

MzHz · 13/03/2025 13:43

With a job paying £40k, it might not be telephone numbers, but it's a decent job and this is a way above the average wage for this country. You don't get this kind of job or salary without being trained/educated/working damned hard to get there.

I always think about the other organisation, the one paying the £40k. They 'have a deal' with the OP, and they pay her in exchange for her labour. To them, they are important as a business. It is really unfair on them that they are to be considered a waste of time because of the money she is paid.

This is less about economics than logistics and it royally boils my piss when women have to draft in help in the form of mothers and friend etc to support the father of the kids to do the basics that single parents do all day, every day of the week.

I remember a friend thanking her circle supporting her while she went to Paris for a work trip of like 2 days, batch cooking, drafting in parents and friends to help with school lunches etc. FFS! why advertise that your H can't step up for a couple of days and feed and care for his own (primary aged) kids. I was single at the time and working my arse off in a fairly low paid job keeping the roof over my head and doing what needed to be done. Men don't get to use weaponised incompetence to control how women work/live.

Then I needed to work for the money, nowadays I need to work for the grey matter, the interaction and the personal growth/sense of fulfilment. Ok so this is changing in the next few months, but I still need to make sure that I am content in my life and motivated to lie the best way I can.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:44

If it was discussed first, I'd never agree to it.
If it wasn't discussed first then that would be part of the problem and yes, relationship ending.

Wow. All for one week of solo childcare....madness.

You've made me even more grateful my husband is pretty chilled about this.
When I was asked to go on my first international trip he earned double my salary and DS was 3. We both knew that the trip would be really beneficial for my career so he encouraged me and even bought me a guide book in case I got time for sightseeing.

In fact, DH is currently on a two week trip to Australia for work. I have a pretty full on job yet I'm still managing to cope as a solo parent. It's slightly more stressful than when DH is at home but it's only two weeks.

outerspacepotato · 13/03/2025 13:44

Your husband doesn't want to be raising his children with the amount of involvement he currently has. Your husband does not respect your work.

It sounds like you do plenty but he wants you to be available 24/7 and that's just not possible unless you bow down to him, quit your job, do everything and become financially vulnerable in the process.

Given his attitude, I certainly wouldn't quit. He sounds unreasonable, misogynistic, and disrespectful. He sounds like he thinks he's your boss, not your husband.

The work he's compaining about could be easily outsourced by having a nanny. If you quit your job, you would be giving up salary, pension contributions, and chances to advance in your career. He sounds like he would be whining that while you were doing 100% of childcare, you wouldn't be contributing financially.

I think you've got marriage troubles with his expectations and dislike of parenting and this is definitely not the time to quit your job

travailtotravel · 13/03/2025 13:44

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:30

He does the breakfasts (cereal) and I do 95% of the evening meals.

Despite me cooking most of the evening meals, he then twists it around and gets angry with me because he feels that days I'm working in the office or in London he has to deal with the stress of his own work and the children until I get home at 5:30 where I avoid the chaos at home and 'swoop in and only have to do a bit of cooking'. Confused

Yeah so for this alone, go away for your week and show him how much you do do around the home. FFS, you're super lucky you're as flexible as you are workwise. I think the PP who said he things he's doing pink jobs and doesn't like it has the nail on the head.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:45

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:37

There are so many men who want their wives to work but not in a way that inconveniences them in any way or impacts wives’ domestic duties.

Do you hear women making such a fuss when their partner is away with work for a week?

100% this!

It's a week, it's not that hard!

Middlechild3 · 13/03/2025 13:45

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

He should be batting for you not tearing you down. Keep doing what is required to progress in your job. Make sure he can't shaft you come your week working away by somehow not being available for your kids and expecting you to cancel.

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