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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
mswales · 13/03/2025 12:44

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:36

Of course it doesn't but then I made the decision to parent with someone, not by myself so I'd be unhappy with international travel and I'd be unhappy that it wasn't even worth it financially.

You can be unhappy about it but you can’t be sulky and make demands over it. It is what it is, that’s her job, in a career that matters to her.

I regularly travel internationally for a four days to a week throughout the year, of course both me and my co-parent wish I didn’t have to travel so much, but I do, so we get on with it. He’s not going to ask me to quit my job because I’m in a career that means a great deal to me and succeeding at the level I am means regular travel. Same way his job means he has to leave at 6.30am every morning so I will always do every single school/nursery run. I hate it but that’s just the way it is, it’s not his fault that his line of work demands that.

jeaux90 · 13/03/2025 12:44

DottieMoon · 13/03/2025 12:39

I agree with your DH.

What sort of company makes it mandatory to travel abroad for a week over the weekend too? Doesn’t sound like a decent one, this sort of expectation on only 40k? Sounds like a right piss take.

Regardless on whether the company say it’s mandatory, why would you as a parent not put your foot down and say this is unreasonable?

JFC just put your foot down? To your boss in a company you want to get promoted in?

Honestly some people have no clue how corporate life works.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 13/03/2025 12:47

@hesnotthewindbeneathmywings what is he earning, presumably in his own business? is it enough to give you a better life? No! so you need this job!

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:50

Occasional travel with the odd overnights/few nights wouldn't bother me but a week of international travel would.
I have no interest in parenting by myself for a week and it would be a deal breaker for me.

You'd end a relationship because your partner went on a week long international trip? A trip that would help their career?

IchiNiSanShiGo · 13/03/2025 12:51

Your DH sounds a bit pigheaded really. He’s allowed to moan about the weight of parental duties, as are you, but that’s not a reason to dismiss your entire career that you’re only recently starting to fly in. The work you’re doing now should hopefully benefit you in future - short term hardship for long term gain.

It’s one week of travel. Doesn’t sound like that will be a regular thing though, so he’s just going to have to suck it up. Utilise after school clubs, whatever the cost, live on takeaway for a week if he can’t be bothered to cook. How are your finances split? Hopefully you’re not paying for things 50/50.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:51

mswales · 13/03/2025 12:44

You can be unhappy about it but you can’t be sulky and make demands over it. It is what it is, that’s her job, in a career that matters to her.

I regularly travel internationally for a four days to a week throughout the year, of course both me and my co-parent wish I didn’t have to travel so much, but I do, so we get on with it. He’s not going to ask me to quit my job because I’m in a career that means a great deal to me and succeeding at the level I am means regular travel. Same way his job means he has to leave at 6.30am every morning so I will always do every single school/nursery run. I hate it but that’s just the way it is, it’s not his fault that his line of work demands that.

I wouldn't want children with someone who travels internationally so as long as it was discussed first and OP's DH agreed to it then I agree.

I wouldn't be happy if this just started happening without a discussion about it first.

wherearemypastnames · 13/03/2025 12:52

Thank fuck for my family who always helped out when I did week long trips - because they knew it was a great job for me and they loved me

Flopsy145 · 13/03/2025 12:52

I know every family is different but in ours we have a primary worker who earns more and a secondary worker who prioritises the kids. Dh has his own company, previously I have earned more but since he changed to construction and set up his own business he's been earning more and more. This business will one day become a family business and i feel takes priority over my job for a large company that could replace me. Therefore I have decided to keep my role with it's flexibility and pretty decent pay, rather than looking for progression, to allow me to do school pick ups, childcare etc, and work from home half the week. This allows my dh to continue growing his business that will and does bring in much more to the household income. One day one or both our kids may end up working for it and even taking over.

AnonymousBleep · 13/03/2025 12:52

You're not being unreasonable but there's no solution to this. Your partner wants you to earn more money while not being away from the home and doing loads more childcare and domestic duties. He may well want that, but I want a golden unicorn - ain't gonna happen. He's obviously not prepared to compromise so it's hard to see what can be done, other than you telling him firmly to stop whinging as you're entlted to a life and career of your own, and unfortunately you won't be transitioning into a WFH 100K a year job any day soon.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:54

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:50

Occasional travel with the odd overnights/few nights wouldn't bother me but a week of international travel would.
I have no interest in parenting by myself for a week and it would be a deal breaker for me.

You'd end a relationship because your partner went on a week long international trip? A trip that would help their career?

If it was discussed first, I'd never agree to it.

If it wasn't discussed first then that would be part of the problem and yes, relationship ending.

mildlydispeptic · 13/03/2025 12:56

Sounds like he's fixating on the numbers and not registering how important your career is to you, on numerous levels. Would it be worth getting some marriage counselling?

cranberryhaddock · 13/03/2025 12:56

TIL that £40k is a low salary.

Ah, mumsnet. wry smile

FiveBarGate · 13/03/2025 12:57

How old are your children? Mine are 7 and 11 now and I in no way run around after them while working. They are pretty self sufficient and know not to come in when I'm on calls.

Given they are at least school age it feels a fairly short term issue to give up a decent job for.

You'd be better putting them to a childminder of after school club if it is really about him running about (but it probably isn't)

GabriellaMontez · 13/03/2025 12:58

I wouldn't be doing your job for that salary.

Of course I'm not suggesting you hand in your notice. But start looking around.

MzHz · 13/03/2025 13:01

OK, I am at a totally different life stage to you in that DH is a business owner, wealthy and almost retired. My job is PT, mostly WFH and fairly low paid - but it does require travel European and 1-2 nights mostly, a week at the end of the year, and the odd London day.

he gets pissed off cos he sees how much i work, (i love my job) but feels i am exploited to a point. we don't have dependent kids (all grown), we only have a dog and when i am away he gets up and does my morning walk and the one in the afternoon. He can ask my DS to help with walks if need be, and DS has looked after dog when DH and I have been away on holiday etc.

I am now winding down, and I have actually decided to leave the job I love, but that is mostly because the business has been treating me bady, and I feel like they are inventing petty shit to piss me off, and as I don't need any of it, am not planning on building a career (I'm heading towards retirement tbh) I've decided to go because i want to do more fun things with the old man before we are too old to do them.

Your Husband does not get to tell you to stop a job that you are building, if he has to pitch in with his kids, fuck he has the freedom and power to be able to shift things around to do it. Is it that his pride is wounded that you are not standing at the gate in a pinny with a freshly baked cake to welcome him home of an evening? Does he feel that he's too good to have to play second fiddle to your career at times? there is the rub.

My other half could fucking buy the company i work for, but he got why i was doing it and why i loved it, but HR fucked it up basically and it no longer suits me to be taken for a mug.

I went away for 10 days last year, some for work and i tacked on a week for visiting friends, he said that was too long as he missed me, not because he had to do stuff. My DH is not the most forward at getting things done for others either, and as i sat there is no child care etc so i think he is being unreasonable.

You have a job that is paid well - for your industry - there is chance and opportunity for you to do more and progress, and most importantly you want this, i think he has to support you in this.

You need to keep talking, he doesn't get to 'flip'. He needs to listen to what you need and why and back it.

EndlessTreadmill · 13/03/2025 13:03

He is being very rigid and narrow-minded. Of course you need to be able to travel, most jobs now expect it. In mine I have to travel a lot more than that.
A few suggestions:

  • Can one of the grandparents come and stay at your house that week. When I travel my MIL comes to stay and do childcare/help with cooking. Takes pressure off DH and whilst he might not be thrilled if it was my mother, he is happy if it's his.
  • Sounds to me like the issue is not this trip, it's a sense you are not pulling your weight in general. If that's true, then you need to step up, if not, can you get some additional help (eg a teenager to do the pickups and a bit of homework on a couple of the days? Someone to come in and do a bit of batch cooking so dinner is literally a reheat?). That way, the ask on him is a bit less
  • Can you negotiate an early finish or something on one of the day, so you pick up a little more.

But in summary - push back. It's not about your salary, it's about your ability to keep a job which you enjoy, and you will need for the future!

JoyousEagle · 13/03/2025 13:04

“I have my own business and earn 3x what DH does. I do the majority of childcare during the week with school pick ups. DH seems to think that because I work for myself, I can bend round his schedule, for example if I’m in the middle of something and he’s going to do school pick up, he’ll expect me to drop what I’m doing if a meeting gets set up for him. I have the children all afternoon and when DH comes home from working in the office, he goes straight to do cooking but I’d sometimes like him to take over the children while I cook. Now he has to do week long trips abroad which will put even more pressure on me to fit my work around the children. I feel like he thinks that because I work for myself, it’s not as important for me to get things done because I don’t have a boss monitoring things.”

He’d probably be called a cocklodger who takes the piss with childcare and doesn’t understand the work that goes into being self-employed.

treesandsun · 13/03/2025 13:04

I would argue that if anything was ever to happen in terms of your relationship ie you split up or he dies - then you will need an income and therefore being in a job is going to be easier than trying to find a job when having stayed at home. Good for him he runs his own business - so therefore he gets to decide how to run it - you work for a business and they get to decide how they run and that is not to suit your husband. I would find his constant undermining of your job and contribution tiresome.
I would say you need to sit down when tempers are less frayed and work out his main issues and what can and can't be changed - so he is not reacting to stuff as it happens. You travelling is part of your job - what is his solution to that - does he want you to pack in your job?

babiesinthesnowflakes · 13/03/2025 13:06

Honestly, I do kind of see his point. Ideally if one parent is in a significantly lower paying role then the trade off should be that it allows them the flexibility to do more of the childcare / pick ups and drop offs / general life and family admin etc. This applies whether it’s the mother or the father in the lower paying role.

I do also think the expectations on you are quite unreasonable for a £40k salary. I’m not saying £40k is a bad salary (if all other things are equal) but I’d expect you to be earning more than that for the amount of travel involved. I’m guessing perhaps the pay is lower if it’s quite a competitive industry.

So I don’t know what the solution is, and it does sound like the way he’s handling it is a bit unkind and immature, but I do see where he’s coming from.

SharpLily · 13/03/2025 13:07

Well a couple of things stand out...

He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'
Then surely he must disagree with the whole concept of travelling for work - why is it unreasonable for you to do unless it's also unreasonable for a man to do it. Surely he realises the world as it is can't function unless some people travel for work, and there's no reason women shouldn't do it as much as men, unless he is a complete misogynist.

He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.
What? So he can't be interrupted in what he's doing but you can?

This is the crux of the matter really, isn't it? He thinks his job is so much bigger and more important than yours and therefore he shouldn't have to accommodate in any way. In the old days we used to call them male chauvinist pigs.

I don't believe in LTB at every other thread but unless he's got an awful lot going for him in every other area and this misogyny is some really out of character aberration, he sounds like a dick. He doesn't respect or value you properly. You might want to consider how your children will be influenced by his attitudes as they grow up.

Whoarethoseguys · 13/03/2025 13:13

Unrelated38 · 13/03/2025 11:39

Tbh I can see his point. He does most of the childcare and earns most of the money. And I do see his point about cooking. When I've been managing the kids all day I'd rather go cook by myself than stay with the kids.

Honestly I can really see his point. But I don't see a solution. You giving up your job isn't really fair. Can you pay for more help? If he earns 3 times what you do then you've got like 150k a year coming in. That's alot of money in my books. We support our family just fine on your income alone. You should be able to afford some help.

He doesn't do most of the childcare. They share childcare and she does all the cooking in the evenings, and the days she is away and he has to give hem dinner its not because she is going out with her friends its her job and I don't think 40k is a small salary at all! Even if he does earn more than her it doesn't mean her career isn't also important.
OP between you, you have a large income much, much higher than anyone I know, can't you hire a nanny or childminder to provide after school care

Ophy83 · 13/03/2025 13:14

I understand your reluctance to tell him about the trip but in doing so you've also left him less time to plan/potentially impacted his ability to work that week. Can you show him you've got plans to lighten his load? E.g. go through his diary for that week and see where he'll have difficulties then come up with a solution like cooking double portions of things like bolognese sauce this week and freezing half so the thing you usually do will still be done? / asking another school mum to collect your child with hers?

Dh and I are both occasionally away for work and if so we do make sure we arrange cover for things like drop offs

sandyhappypeople · 13/03/2025 13:15

I see his point, I have the completely flexible job and DH has the inflexible job, a lot of everything falls to me and to be honest it pisses me off, I'm just as busy as DH, if not more, but I have to do it because I am the only one around to do things, if I can't do it it is my responsibility to organise someone to cover me. It's the assumption that it is my responsibility that drives me crazy, I often get little sleep as I have to work late into the early hours to keep up with anything happening in the day and my workload.

DH work is very set hours, but if he was supposed to be doing something then it was cancelled, then last minute he was having to do something that wasn't planned and I was expected to drop everything and try and shift my work around at a moments notice to accommodate it I would be as resentful as your husband I'm afraid.

The only reason it works is because we 50/50 the household stuff, and we work well as a team domestically, he will pick up my slack and I will pick up his slack when it comes to chores.

Something is going wrong here OP and your job is obviously a big part of it, you shouldn't have to give it up but there must be a compromise somewhere, you say you do the cooking, but if he is doing pretty much all childcare from collections until what 7pm while also trying to run a successful business it sounds like he is drowning, what happens after that, how are your chores split? bath/bedtimes etc? do you both get any downtime?

Fioratourer · 13/03/2025 13:16

I think the biggest point here is that you love your job. As your husband he should be supporting you. Yes one week away is an inconvenience but as someone’s wife I just got on with it when this happened. It’s not a regular thing. Yes he may earn more money but your job is important too. Particularly important to you. Your children don’t seem to suffer because he is around to help with school runs etc. Your 40k still contributes to your home and life.

TiredCatLady · 13/03/2025 13:18

So he doesn’t like spending money and wants you to earn more money… Say you got a promotion tomorrow. Same ts&cs but £70k. Do we think this would magically make it ok for him? I doubt it, it still wouldn’t be enough or it would still be taking you away too much or whatever else.
Say his business, for whatever reason, folded tomorrow. It happens. What would he expect to happen? Would he able to move into a corporate job?
I wonder is he actually afraid of you progressing?

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