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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
nhmamam · 17/03/2025 13:43

It sounds like the man earns triple what you do and (unless I’m missing some key elements of what you do in the house / for the children and he doesn’t) does the majority of childcare. I can see why he might be a tad disappointed to have to do even more when you’re away for the week

Planetmonster · 17/03/2025 13:43

God he just sounds like he likes to bully you and will never be happy.

urgh poor you, so unsexy of him!

can you have some stock replies and ignore his moaning?

sounds soul destroying to be honest

XanLovesHaribo · 17/03/2025 14:08

AndSoFinally · 13/03/2025 11:57

I can see why he's annoyed. In his eyes he does most of the work at home and earns most of the money and your job is interfering with the smooth running of the home, and is increasing his workload, while not really contributing a lot to the joint pot

I know you say you do 95% of the evening meals, but if he is having to juggle the kids, homework, finishing his own work, bath, bedtime, etc, while you stand in the kitchen in peace, again it's not really "helpful" as such. Let's face it, I'd rather be the cook in that situation. Have you offered to swap?

I think in terms of keeping your job, buying in help to cover the shortfall is probably key

Completely agree with this.

It sounds like he might be on the path to burnout, and that will be horrible for everyone involved. I would suggest it's in your interests to organise some extra help, and make sure he has some regular time to himself. Should he do that himself - yes, but if he's stuck in a downward spiral towards burnout, you probably need to take the reins a bit there.

WhiteJasmin · 17/03/2025 19:20

@SerenityNowSerenityNow Is this the case for OP though? It does not sound like it's a new job and even if it is, doesn't take away the fact that as a family unit they need to talk through how the work travel should be managed. It's not a big issue for you but here the husband is saying it is a big issue for him. It sounds like both you and your husband travel so are more equal in that sense. The husband here earns 3 times as much and also picks up the extra parenting when OP is away on work travels. He is expressing he is stressed. I don't read anywhere that the husband is against her work, it is specifically targeting the fact about it being demanding of her time.

Also regarding "life happens". Yes when you need the income. Most families need 2 income to live and so things happen, a partner gets made redundant etc. you got to do what you got to do. OP's situation she is lucky that she gets to choose since her husband is earning so much more than her. She is choosing a role that travels.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 19:56

@WhiteJasmin have you missed the bit where he gets angry at her for her just doing her job? Or Because her superiors moved a meeting? And where he 'completely flipped' when she said she had to travel for a week? And where he refuses to use additional wrap around care?

And the salary is irrelevant- I don't care how much you earn it doesn't absolve you from childcare or mean you can dictate what your partner does for a living. A relationship where the power increases with salary level isn't a healthy one.

WhiteJasmin · 17/03/2025 21:15

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 19:56

@WhiteJasmin have you missed the bit where he gets angry at her for her just doing her job? Or Because her superiors moved a meeting? And where he 'completely flipped' when she said she had to travel for a week? And where he refuses to use additional wrap around care?

And the salary is irrelevant- I don't care how much you earn it doesn't absolve you from childcare or mean you can dictate what your partner does for a living. A relationship where the power increases with salary level isn't a healthy one.

It's back to the same point the husband is frustrated to be the defaulting parent to be flexible around her work commitments all the time because he is self employed.

I think this is the point where we disagree. Your point is salary doesn't matter. If I earn 3 times my husband then as a family, strategically my role is more important for the family budget. If I'm earning 3 times as much and my husband wants to leave me with extra childcare with regular work travels, I would be saying something too as I will be burnt out.

Both my husband and I could get promotions if we travel and be "on demand" by senior management too. But we choose to be present for the family and share drop offs/pick ups etc. if I was earning 3 times his salary my husband would stay at home more as we have often said.

And it can be due to different life experiences but my colleagues who are the default parents because their jobs are more "flexible" are living a life similar to single parents and it's hugely unfair that they are always the ones to drop everything if daycare or school calls because their work is deemed more "flexible".

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 21:28

It's back to the same point the husband is frustrated to be the defaulting parent to be flexible around her work commitments all the time because he is self employed.

Are you justifying his anger towards the OP?
You seem to be making a lot of excuses for him.
My husband earns more than me, until recently he earned double my salary. While I was completing my PhD (while working full time) he took on the bulk of childcare when I needed to write. That went on for months!
The OP is going away for a WEEK and he got angry when she told him. Ridiculous.

sandyhappypeople · 17/03/2025 22:11

nhmamam · 17/03/2025 13:43

It sounds like the man earns triple what you do and (unless I’m missing some key elements of what you do in the house / for the children and he doesn’t) does the majority of childcare. I can see why he might be a tad disappointed to have to do even more when you’re away for the week

I think this too, I can't find anywhere what OP picks up in the form of childcare and domestic chores, apart from sharing the drop offs and doing 1 pick up a week, and the bulk of the cooking in the evenings, unless I've missed something she doesn't go into detail about what she actually does around the house, they have a cleaner.

Meanwhile she goes on to state that her DH does an incredible amount around the home and with the children, while running his own lucrative business, he does the bulk of the childcare, from breakfasts every day and most pick up to whenever OP finishes work/finishes cooking in the evening, and he has now told her he feels unsupported at home.

So why people keep saying that OP goes above and beyond for her family and childcare, is that just based on assumptions? Because she's a woman so obviously she does everything?.. I'm not saying it may not be the case but there is absolutely nothing in OPs posts to say she does any more than the bare minimum, she can't even help with unexpected childcare unless she gives a weeks notice at work.

I can understand why the husband is frustrated, he is picking up all the childcare slack in the relationship, whilst being the main breadwinner, so OP can put her all into a job that doesn't pay well enough to justify the time away from her family and responsibilities.

0ohLarLar · 17/03/2025 22:15

Tbh 40k isn't a high salary to be expected to travel a lot. Everywhere I've ever worked the people travelling for a week are on double/triple that

WhiteJasmin · 18/03/2025 06:30

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 21:28

It's back to the same point the husband is frustrated to be the defaulting parent to be flexible around her work commitments all the time because he is self employed.

Are you justifying his anger towards the OP?
You seem to be making a lot of excuses for him.
My husband earns more than me, until recently he earned double my salary. While I was completing my PhD (while working full time) he took on the bulk of childcare when I needed to write. That went on for months!
The OP is going away for a WEEK and he got angry when she told him. Ridiculous.

I can say the same about making excuses for OP.

Your circumstance sound different to OP's. You are working on a PHD and for a short period of time will be on lower salary but presumably the PHD will benefit your career and the family significantly in the long run and that you and your husband presumably agrees is best for the family. I have no information from OP how much more of a raise she will get from this period of time or in fact her role will just be more demanding with time. Also, from OP's description, her husband has been doing the pick ups even before the proposed work changes. It sounds like her husband has always picked up the extra parenting to enable OP to work her current role. He is opposing to any more. It doesn't sound to me it's a once off one week trip. It sounds like this could be a regular occurrence on top of her not even doing most of the pick ups now.

My colleague (default parent) had to wake up at 5am today to single handedly sort out her kids and drop them off at daycare before rushing herself to work and also rushing to leave work before 5pm to pick up her kids because her husband's job is "less flexible". It impacts her work as she's just rushing from one place to another permanently. It is rough on one parent being consistently the one to be doing all the pick ups and drop offs when they themselves have a full time job. When does the husband gets a break? Unless he also gets a fair share of time away/ to focus on his work then it is not equal.

WhiteJasmin · 18/03/2025 06:38

sandyhappypeople · 17/03/2025 22:11

I think this too, I can't find anywhere what OP picks up in the form of childcare and domestic chores, apart from sharing the drop offs and doing 1 pick up a week, and the bulk of the cooking in the evenings, unless I've missed something she doesn't go into detail about what she actually does around the house, they have a cleaner.

Meanwhile she goes on to state that her DH does an incredible amount around the home and with the children, while running his own lucrative business, he does the bulk of the childcare, from breakfasts every day and most pick up to whenever OP finishes work/finishes cooking in the evening, and he has now told her he feels unsupported at home.

So why people keep saying that OP goes above and beyond for her family and childcare, is that just based on assumptions? Because she's a woman so obviously she does everything?.. I'm not saying it may not be the case but there is absolutely nothing in OPs posts to say she does any more than the bare minimum, she can't even help with unexpected childcare unless she gives a weeks notice at work.

I can understand why the husband is frustrated, he is picking up all the childcare slack in the relationship, whilst being the main breadwinner, so OP can put her all into a job that doesn't pay well enough to justify the time away from her family and responsibilities.

I agree. If I wouldn't be happy in the marriage if I'm burnt out.

Luddite26 · 18/03/2025 06:43

WhiteJasmin · 18/03/2025 06:30

I can say the same about making excuses for OP.

Your circumstance sound different to OP's. You are working on a PHD and for a short period of time will be on lower salary but presumably the PHD will benefit your career and the family significantly in the long run and that you and your husband presumably agrees is best for the family. I have no information from OP how much more of a raise she will get from this period of time or in fact her role will just be more demanding with time. Also, from OP's description, her husband has been doing the pick ups even before the proposed work changes. It sounds like her husband has always picked up the extra parenting to enable OP to work her current role. He is opposing to any more. It doesn't sound to me it's a once off one week trip. It sounds like this could be a regular occurrence on top of her not even doing most of the pick ups now.

My colleague (default parent) had to wake up at 5am today to single handedly sort out her kids and drop them off at daycare before rushing herself to work and also rushing to leave work before 5pm to pick up her kids because her husband's job is "less flexible". It impacts her work as she's just rushing from one place to another permanently. It is rough on one parent being consistently the one to be doing all the pick ups and drop offs when they themselves have a full time job. When does the husband gets a break? Unless he also gets a fair share of time away/ to focus on his work then it is not equal.

But DH isn't consistently doing all the pick ups. Occasionally he is the default parent and because of this he feels it ok to shout at OP abusively because her salary isn't what he seems it to be.
40k depending where you live is still not the worst salary and op is still progressing and isn't incurring daily travel time/expenditure.
Some controlling partners get off on making their partner feel shit about a lower income he should pull together better rather than pull apart.

BusyMum47 · 18/03/2025 06:50

TheAmusedQuail · 13/03/2025 11:13

Imagine if the roles were switched and you were the man and he was the woman.

He would expect you to support him in his lower paying corporate job. You'd be expected to continue in your childcare role and to just pick up, without complaint, when he went off to do the overseas trip/over nights.

The reason he's digging his heels in is NOT because he earns more than you, it's because you're the woman and he believes you should take on the majority of the responsibility for the children. He's resentful that he's been pushed into what he sees as a woman's role in the family.

Imagine if you two end up divorced. Presumably he'd want 50/50 contact so he doesn't have to pay you CS. He'd HAVE to do what he's doing now. From your perspective, you need to hang on to your job in case of divorce. Do not let him make you financial reliant on him.

@hesnotthewindbeneathmywings

This! ⬆️

He's being a massive asshole about this - don't let him ruin your career & self esteem.

Marshatessa · 18/03/2025 06:59

He needs to understand that what he’s doing isn’t forever and time with children flies by. Maybe MIL could help out additional hours. Don’t give in as you need your own career too.

WhiteJasmin · 18/03/2025 09:12

It was in the OP that the husband does most pick ups during the week (4 days for the youngest and 3 days for the eldest).

Subsequent post OP mentions her husband accompanies one child's activity during the week when she's working that's a 30 mins drive away. He also takes the other child to another after school activity. He is also the parent to be called upon for things that suddenly pop up because her job she can only take time off if she gets one week notice. So that means if the kids need a pick up from daycare or school from being sick, the husband has to be the one all the time to drop his work. She won't be able to do that and tells him the kids will need to go to a kids club if he is unavailable which costs money.

It is also OP's description that her husband handles the kids while she cooks.

The outburst from the husband sounds like he is burnt out. From what he is already doing he is not an unsupportive husband. In OP's words he is not against her having a career and he will support it if she makes a bit more but for what she gets paid now, it doesn't make financial sense to him that he is running around by himself and extra mental load.

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