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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
lechatnoir · 15/03/2025 21:25

Such a classic Mumsnet comment “I wouldn’t do this for less than £100k” Grin Honestly @ConkerGamemost people work long hours for considerably less money - yes including weekends and unpaid overtime, evenings even time away.

I’m in Cardiff for 2 days this month, working 2 Sunday’s and then up to Leeds for 3 days. I earn £30k & really not that unusual for a charity. Fuck me our CEO doesn’t even earn £100k and he works bloody hard and has held very senior corporate roles in the past.

OhamIreally · 16/03/2025 01:07

“She was cured of men” I love this phrase!
A 40k job will yield such benefits: self esteem, a pension, involvement in the wider world, being a good role model for children.
You have one life, it’s not fair to insist that the woman always sacrifices her selfhood when the man doesn’t have to.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 01:35

I would only work your sort of schedule etc for a minimum of £100k.

Meanwhile in the real world...... 🙄

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 02:35

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 01:35

I would only work your sort of schedule etc for a minimum of £100k.

Meanwhile in the real world...... 🙄

But in this situation they are not relying on her pay to live off. Her husband earns more by far from what OP describes. So she is in a position where she can be more selective in what job she does compared to families depending on that salary to live. By choice, she is choosing a career that is not paid exceptionally well that involves a lot of travelling and defaulting her husband who's the main breadwinner to do solo parenting.

Mumlaplomb · 16/03/2025 08:03

I think when you have kids both parents have to compromise for the family. Certainly in my marriage we have both made sacrifices, I have sat at middle management so I can do the pick ups from after school club as my husband works shifts. My husband hasn’t gone for a promotion as it means working nights again which doesn’t work in a house with younger kids.
To me, as I’ve said before, I think your employer is asking too much for your salary. I think you could relatively easily find a job with less demands on your family time for that salary and your husband is right there.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 09:40

But in this situation they are not relying on her pay to live off. Her husband earns more by far from what OP describes. So she is in a position where she can be more selective in what job she does compared to families depending on that salary to live. By choice, she is choosing a career that is not paid exceptionally well that involves a lot of travelling and defaulting her husband who's the main breadwinner to do solo parenting.

She enjoys her job, when you're suggesting she be more selective what you're actually saying is she needs to prioritise salary over enjoyment and job satisfaction.
Not all sectors pay six figure salaries and £40k is a pretty decent wage. Lots of jobs paying that amount include travel.

And why does being the higher earner mean you shouldn't be expected to do some solo parenting every once in while? He's still a parent no matter how much he earns.

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 11:30

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 09:40

But in this situation they are not relying on her pay to live off. Her husband earns more by far from what OP describes. So she is in a position where she can be more selective in what job she does compared to families depending on that salary to live. By choice, she is choosing a career that is not paid exceptionally well that involves a lot of travelling and defaulting her husband who's the main breadwinner to do solo parenting.

She enjoys her job, when you're suggesting she be more selective what you're actually saying is she needs to prioritise salary over enjoyment and job satisfaction.
Not all sectors pay six figure salaries and £40k is a pretty decent wage. Lots of jobs paying that amount include travel.

And why does being the higher earner mean you shouldn't be expected to do some solo parenting every once in while? He's still a parent no matter how much he earns.

No, what I am saying is if I had a husband who's earning enough for the family, I can be more selective in choosing my employer and in a better position to negotiate working conditions to suit my lifestyle. Or just by virtue of having kids, slow down for a couple of years of corporate climbing to spend time with the kids and have them as priority.

It sounds like the husband already supports her by doing majority of the pick ups. Just because he is self employed doesn't mean it's easy for him to plan his days around the pick ups either. What he's saying is the additional travel is too much.

Any gender being left to solo parent is not ideal, especially when it's not like the family is depending on the money. Don't compare to families who need the money and needs to make this sacrifice.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 11:54

No, what I am saying is if I had a husband who's earning enough for the family, I can be more selective in choosing my employer and in a better position to negotiate working conditions to suit my lifestyle. Or just by virtue of having kids, slow down for a couple of years of corporate climbing to spend time with the kids and have them as priority.

She loves her job, she is excelling in the role and is progressing. She's said the salary is average for this type of role.
Why should she change jobs or step back?

It sounds like the husband already supports her by doing majority of the pick ups. Just because he is self employed doesn't mean it's easy for him to plan his days around the pick ups either. What he's saying is the additional travel is too much.

Her husband is being a parent. He does marginally more pick ups because his job is more flexible. That's how it works in most families. It sounds like she more than pulls her weight in other ways.

He's been asked to solo parent for one week. That's all.

Any gender being left to solo parent is not ideal, especially when it's not like the family is depending on the money. Don't compare to families who need the money and needs to make this sacrifice.

No it's not ideal but that's life. The money is a red herring here. The fact is she loves her job. They might not need the money but working isn't always just about the salary.

askmenow · 16/03/2025 12:23

Crucially you need to hang onto a job you love for the sake of a "backstop" just in case. Don't make yourself vulnerable, we hear too much of it on here.

Don't allow yourself to become a person dependent on your OH's earnings. Future proof yourself. And the only way to do that is to forge ahead now and take the rough with the smooth.
Imagine he were to fall ill/incapactitated or suchlike where he couldn't be the main earner so discuss with him some wrap around childcare/ nanny.

Try to have a fallback plan given you have the funds to cope with that atm. Many dont.

Marosanne · 16/03/2025 16:18

You DEFINITELY do not want to give up your independence and become a SAHM for this nasty man. Please don't give him any more control than he already has.

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 16:19

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 11:54

No, what I am saying is if I had a husband who's earning enough for the family, I can be more selective in choosing my employer and in a better position to negotiate working conditions to suit my lifestyle. Or just by virtue of having kids, slow down for a couple of years of corporate climbing to spend time with the kids and have them as priority.

She loves her job, she is excelling in the role and is progressing. She's said the salary is average for this type of role.
Why should she change jobs or step back?

It sounds like the husband already supports her by doing majority of the pick ups. Just because he is self employed doesn't mean it's easy for him to plan his days around the pick ups either. What he's saying is the additional travel is too much.

Her husband is being a parent. He does marginally more pick ups because his job is more flexible. That's how it works in most families. It sounds like she more than pulls her weight in other ways.

He's been asked to solo parent for one week. That's all.

Any gender being left to solo parent is not ideal, especially when it's not like the family is depending on the money. Don't compare to families who need the money and needs to make this sacrifice.

No it's not ideal but that's life. The money is a red herring here. The fact is she loves her job. They might not need the money but working isn't always just about the salary.

I guess to me I appreciate my career but at the end of the day it's a job that pays the bills. If I don't have to pay the bills, then I have a lot of other options and interests and pursue a better job to fit my lifestyle. If the job is as important to me regardless of pay and part of my identity, that has to be discussed before having kids of what that would look like with the travel requirements. Especially working out what support her husband gets when she goes away for the week. I enjoyed travelling for work before kids but now prioritising work flexibly to maximise family time and will decline roles that doesn't suit for this period in my life when kids are young.

I have female colleagues who are the default parent and it's tough. Everytime there's a call from daycare, they always have to drop what they are doing because their partner's job is "not as flexible". They are also the ones loaded with the responsibility to rush through their day juggling drop offs while their partners gets to go along with their jobs like normal.

That's why I stress regardless of gender, it's good to consider the partner's mental load.

MaryGreenhill · 16/03/2025 16:28

I don't think your DH is a misogynist OP. I think he wants a better home life for you all

ThisSunnySheep · 16/03/2025 16:32

I'm on your side Absolutely.. But why is ok for you to assume the other person ie a mans going to be the bread winner ? Luckily me and my wife are equal.. I work because i want to.. don't allow him or anyone make feel like giving up your job.. But remember equality means same for both. What if i didn't want to work ?? As it happens 9 or so months ago woke up on the change just said glad to be alive. Although it has been challenging for me and my wife.. It's not just a woman thing .
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Missj25 · 16/03/2025 16:35

ChateauMargaux says it’s best 👌

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 17:20

Especially working out what support her husband gets when she goes away for the week.

It's a week. Not a year 🙄

I'd love to know how many men think about what support is needed at home when they work away.

MzHz · 16/03/2025 17:41

Childcare is a joint expense and if he earns more, he can pay more, especially if you’re away and he’s home and can’t fill in.

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 19:41

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 17:20

Especially working out what support her husband gets when she goes away for the week.

It's a week. Not a year 🙄

I'd love to know how many men think about what support is needed at home when they work away.

So you are suggesting OP can go away at anytime at a whim to chase her passion without arranging anything in consideration of the husband having to pick up the extra load? What if he has to work on weekends for his own business? Or he has other commitments?

If one partner's career and interest trumps the other partner's needs without consideration it's called divorce. Even co-parenting you need to sort this kind of arrangement out.

And wondering what men thinks when they go away for work trips? Well I can guess in most of those cases they are breadwinners and either do these trips out of necessity of their jobs to pay the bills or they get paid so much, they can afford help around the house. If the men are doing all these travelling just for their passion, I think you will tell the wife in this instance to drop him if he doesn't consider her feelings. Be equal to both genders.

Luddite26 · 16/03/2025 19:51

I'm really sad reading your post OP. It's really quite triggering of bastards who have kept me down never reaching any potential but always being there for the kids.
Don't leave this job. It sounds great to me when you are juggling young children and time ahead to further yourself. Salary sounds like a dream to someone who never had any support at home for better jobs.
Stand your ground. He sounds pretty controlling if it wasn't your job it would be something. One day you will have had enough.💐

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 20:10

So you are suggesting OP can go away at anytime at a whim to chase her passion without arranging anything in consideration of the husband having to pick up the extra load? What if he has to work on weekends for his own business? Or he has other commitments?

Where have I said that?
Most families would sit down and work out a plan rather than demanding someone quits their job because they've have to go on a week long trip.
If he has to work weekends or has other commitments then they will need to arrange childcare. It's not an insurmountable problem.

If one partner's career and interest trumps the other partner's needs without consideration it's called divorce. Even co-parenting you need to sort this kind of arrangement out.

At the moment it seems like the OPs husband is the one who thinks his needs and wants are more important. He's been asked to be a parent - nothing more.

And wondering what men thinks when they go away for work trips? Well I can guess in most of those cases they are breadwinners and either do these trips out of necessity of their jobs to pay the bills or they get paid so much, they can afford help around the house. If the men are doing all these travelling just for their passion, I think you will tell the wife in this instance to drop him if he doesn't consider her feelings. Be equal to both genders.

The OPs trip is necessary for her job. She's not going on holiday. Just because she's not the main earner doesn't mean her job isn't important. Shouldn't he be considering her feelings too? A higher salary doesn't mean you get to dictate what your partner does for a job.

My husband earns more than me but thankfully he doesn't use that as an excuse to opt out of childcare or tell me I shouldn't be travelling with work.

WhiteJasmin · 17/03/2025 12:27

@SerenityNowSerenityNow I have been saying in my posts if OP is so adamant on this job and it requires travelling, it should have been discussed and planned out before having kids and if she goes away for a week at a time, they need a plan in terms of any support the husband needs to juggle his work and kids. Your reply to me was what support does he need for a week? Implying support for the husband is not necessary.

In any case I think we agree to disagree.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 12:40

WhiteJasmin · 17/03/2025 12:27

@SerenityNowSerenityNow I have been saying in my posts if OP is so adamant on this job and it requires travelling, it should have been discussed and planned out before having kids and if she goes away for a week at a time, they need a plan in terms of any support the husband needs to juggle his work and kids. Your reply to me was what support does he need for a week? Implying support for the husband is not necessary.

In any case I think we agree to disagree.

Life doesn't always work out like that though does it?
Jobs change, people grow and develop and new opportunities arise.

Both me and DH travel for work - perhaps 2/3 times a year. When we got married neither of us had jobs which involved travel. But things change.
DH is currently away and I'm solo parenting while working in a very stressful, full on job. It's a bit more stressful and tiring than usual but it's not a big issue.

BellissimoGecko · 17/03/2025 13:33

katmarie · 13/03/2025 11:56

You need to reframe your perspective of his position. You say 'he cannot understand...' I assume his job is reasonably challenging and deals with clients/timescales/other people's expectations, given your description of his salary? In which case, he absolutely can understand. He's just not prepared to accept it from you. Where you go from there I'm not sure, but definitely don't give up your job.

Absolutely this! He understands all right. He just doesn’t like it.

BellissimoGecko · 17/03/2025 13:35

MaryGreenhill · 16/03/2025 16:28

I don't think your DH is a misogynist OP. I think he wants a better home life for you all

Edited

What makes you think that?

OP’s description of him getting angry and criticising her don’t seem to bear this out.

BellissimoGecko · 17/03/2025 13:37

Themaghag · 15/03/2025 15:45

Sadly, although the majority of men want, or indeed expect, their wives to work and preferably earn a lot of money for doing so, your DH is simply articulating the commonly held male view that wives should also do/organise the majority of childcare and domestic labour too. Heaven forfend that any man should ever be mildly inconvenienced by his wife's employment! I certainly wouldn't capitulate to this sort of nonsense or pander to him in any way whatsover. Your home and your children are a joint responsibility as he will rapidly discover if you ever divorce. And I'd point out that divorce is becoming more and more of a reality every time he whines about having to parent his own children or shoulder his share of the domestic load. Under no circumstances should you ever jeopardise your career prospects on his say so.

This! 👌

EllieShelly · 17/03/2025 13:38

BrollyGood · 13/03/2025 11:58

I think it depends on what he has explicitly stated he is willing to do - would he facilitate you being a SAHM?

It's very understandable that if he's bringing in enough money for the family and he needs to keep doing that to keep things afloat, he would feel that he shouldn't have to pick up childcare slack for his partner's 'feeling fulfilled' job.

If, on the other hand, he accepts your job is financially necessary then he doesn't get to dictate.

OMG. You're referring to a woman's career as a "feeling fulfilled" job.

I'm assuming you're a man. . .

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