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To not give up my job that DH hates?

315 replies

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
Mnetcurious · 13/03/2025 12:27

“all DH does is criticise I don’t support enough at home and don’t earn enough

don’t support enough vs don’t earn enough- usually doing one means you can’t do the other- earning more often goes hand in hand with working more, especially when you’re trying to make your way up the career ladder. You can’t do both!

I’m sure if he needed to go away for work then he’d just do it and not expect any complaints. He wants you to support the family but he is unwilling to support you and your career.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:30

TBH £40k is not a lot for a role that requires international travel for a week.

Where I work staff will earn around that salary and will have to travel regularly. Earning £40k does not mean you are poorly paid.

AirborneElephant · 13/03/2025 12:30

I think he’s being completely unreasonable, and you definitely shouldn’t give up a career you enjoy just to make his life a little easier for a couple of years. your job provides satisfaction, independence and self confidence, as well as a decent financial contribution. You deserve to keep that, don’t let him convince you otherwise.

Having said that, is there anything you can do to make things easier for that week away? How old are the children.? Can they stay with a friend/family? Can you arrange for a local teenager to bring them home and sit with them for an hour or two after school?

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:30

I wouldn't be impressed as a higher earner if I then also had to look after children independently for a week.

I'd expect a higher salary involving international travel or a new job with a lower salary but no travelling.

Wordau · 13/03/2025 12:31

In my industry both my DH and I have had to travel a lot and don't earn much more than £40k. Certainly we were travelling when we didn't earn that!

Your DH sounds unrealistic. Presumably your industry isn't hugely well paid. I saw a board level job advertised paying £33k last week.

Presumably you knew when you took the job that it involved travel and discussed this with him?

Loads of jobs would be in office every day. Hybrid roles are becoming rarer. You've actually got a pretty good deal I think.

I think you should be using after school care for your DC as you shouldn't have the kids at home during working hours if it disrupts your work. Is that an option?

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 13/03/2025 12:31

I would suggest to him that you are thinking of getting a ( qualified and experienced ) nanny to live in for the full week that you need to be away.

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:31

Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job

He's right, you don't.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:32

I will also add - because I can see the "he's an arsehole" brigade have come out in force - that I can see his point of view

You've missed the point. From a practical level yes he has a point which if he was a pleasant man, could be discussed mutually and respectfully. It is his approach to the discussion - dismissive, superior, misogynistic, angry, belittling op - that shows his character very clearly.

jeaux90 · 13/03/2025 12:32

Absolutely deluded if he thinks you can say no to these demands as part of corporate life.

And by the way as a lone parent I had to do a lot more travelling than that to climb the ladder in the past.

BadSkiingMum · 13/03/2025 12:33

He sounds a bit demanding and lacking in imagination.

I work in a sector that is inspiring, badly paid and rife with insecurity. When it is good it is wonderful, the best workplace on earth. When it is bad it is a political nightmare. 😁

My own DH is a high earner and really struggles to get his head around the fact that my jobs can be stressful, require support with family arrangements and also be badly paid. He is now rather keen on me being a SAHM…

But, putting aside the domestic side of things, is there a grain of truth in what your DH is saying? What you describe in terms of travel etc does seem like quite a lot for a £40k role in a corporate environment. If you hadn’t named the salary I would have thought it would be at least £10-£15k higher.

We are all collectively induced to think of work travel as unproblematic and having no impact on our lives, but it does actually cut across our time and contact with loved ones in quite a significant way. So it should be rewarded appropriately.

I do travel for work sometimes but always keep my relatively modest salary in mind. So generally just for one night and I make reasonable arrangements that suit my own timetable. My sector simply doesn’t pay enough for me to get up at the crack of dawn, travel home late at night, incur expenses that won’t be covered or miss too much time with my DC.

Of course there will now be an influx of people saying that everyone should expect to be internationally mobile and that they regularly worked abroad as an admin assistant on £23k, but who is really benefiting there?

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:33

I wouldn't be impressed as a higher earner if I then also had to look after children independently for a week.

You're kidding right? Earning a higher salary doesn't mean to get to opt out of being a parent.
My DH earns more than me but my job involves more international travel. There is no reason why he can't look after our child independently he just needs to plan. Just like I do when he travels.

Wordau · 13/03/2025 12:34

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:31

Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job

He's right, you don't.

What's your answer then?

You can't just waltz into a WFH job paying 50% more. Which is what OP's DH wants.

JoyousEagle · 13/03/2025 12:35

Springadorable · 13/03/2025 12:26

Is it that he feels that you're prioritising your work above everything without acknowledging it? When you say you're on a call so can't get the kids and he'll have to do it even though he's also in the middle of something, it does sound a bit like you're dictating how things happen. I can also see what he means about coming in and disappearing to cook dinner - in our house that is by far the easier job if it's that or look after wild feral evening kids. Can you discuss which jobs he feels he needs specific change with? Like if he cook and you do the kids in the evening?

I agree you can't find his dream version of your job. But I can also see why, if he is the high earner and still having to tiptoe around your meetings which seem to get moved randomly that as well as doing most of the school runs and after school childcare he's a bit pissed off. From an output viewpoint, you're putting in a lot of effort for not much financial or time reward.

I agree with this.

I’m not saying there’s nothing unreasonable about him. But I can see where he’s coming from.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:35

It is imperative that you keep your job op.

You will need it. I'm a bit older than you are I'm sure, and I can say with near 💯 certainty that one day for you the rose tints will fall from your face and you will see him for who he is. When that happens, you will need this job.

Irritateddaily · 13/03/2025 12:35

He's not unreasonable "Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job"

40k per annum for international travel spanning and entire week multiple times a year plus offices in other parts of the country monthly !! Ridiculous. He will be doing the majority of parenting in these situations + earning the majority of the families money. It's a massive burden.

However if you feel that he isn't going to be happy with whatever scenario you have then that's not an issue you can really resolve is it? He'll he miserable either way, so may as well safeguard your career instead of pacifying his disdain for your job.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:36

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:33

I wouldn't be impressed as a higher earner if I then also had to look after children independently for a week.

You're kidding right? Earning a higher salary doesn't mean to get to opt out of being a parent.
My DH earns more than me but my job involves more international travel. There is no reason why he can't look after our child independently he just needs to plan. Just like I do when he travels.

Of course it doesn't but then I made the decision to parent with someone, not by myself so I'd be unhappy with international travel and I'd be unhappy that it wasn't even worth it financially.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:36

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:31

Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job

He's right, you don't.

Fuck me.....her job is only an inconvenience to him because he's either a bit thick or a sexist pig.
£40k is hardly pin money is it?

stayathomer · 13/03/2025 12:38

That you said 40k blew my mind, I thought you were going to be earning just over mw!!!!!

I'd be unhappy with international travel and I'd be unhappy that it wasn't even worth it financially.

how is a salary of 40k not worth it financially?!

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:38

Of course it doesn't but then I made the decision to parent with someone, not by myself so I'd be unhappy with international travel and I'd be unhappy that it wasn't even worth it financially.

She's going away for a WEEK!!! Not months at a time.

Occasional travel doesn't mean you are parenting by yourself.

DottieMoon · 13/03/2025 12:39

I agree with your DH.

What sort of company makes it mandatory to travel abroad for a week over the weekend too? Doesn’t sound like a decent one, this sort of expectation on only 40k? Sounds like a right piss take.

Regardless on whether the company say it’s mandatory, why would you as a parent not put your foot down and say this is unreasonable?

mswales · 13/03/2025 12:39

He is being massively unreasonable, not respecting your career and acting like salary makes jobs more or less important. If you are a proper team as a married couple should be then you support each other. You are clearly doing as much childcare and domestic work as your work possibly allows. He has a way more flexible job so of course he should be doing more!

Inevitably there will be feelings underneath all this that are driving his reactions, stuff going on subconsciously that he may not even be aware of. It’s probably about much more than your job. You should get couples therapy to work these issues out, as it’s serious stuff for your life together.

Codlingmoths · 13/03/2025 12:40

I do know I’d keep my job.
id try to make that week as easy as possible for him, precook the meals, arrange something after school if possible, have uniforms ready.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:41

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:38

Of course it doesn't but then I made the decision to parent with someone, not by myself so I'd be unhappy with international travel and I'd be unhappy that it wasn't even worth it financially.

She's going away for a WEEK!!! Not months at a time.

Occasional travel doesn't mean you are parenting by yourself.

Occasional travel with the odd overnights/few nights wouldn't bother me but a week of international travel would.

I have no interest in parenting by myself for a week and it would be a deal breaker for me.

mudandgrass · 13/03/2025 12:43

If you earn 40k and he earns triple what you do - you have a combine gross income of 160k.

You can afford to buy in the additional support with house and kids that you need. Get a nanny to help out with around school care.

cestlavielife · 13/03/2025 12:44

he has to deal with the stress of his own work and the children until I get home at 5:30

Boo hoo
If it s too hard hire an au pair type person to help out with school.pick ups and etc
There are solutions which do not involve you giving up your job which is good for your wellbeing