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New boyfriend won't dine out. Ever.

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Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 22:43

I've started seeing someone. He told me yesterday that he doesn't like dining out. Ever.

He would rather I cook or he cooks and if the relationship continues will apparently never go out for brunch or lunch or dinner with me.

I could of course dine out with friends without him. He would not come for example to any meal with friends he was invited to.

His reason is he is vegan and he says he doesn't trust chefs not to contaminate his food.

I honestly feel like saying I cannot see this relationship going anywhere.

OP posts:
Stirabout · 12/03/2025 23:50

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/03/2025 23:42

Unfair.

I have lots of vegan friends and they make a great effort to feed us meat eaters as we feed them.

A friend had a BBQ and cooked vegan options on the BBQ and asked to borrow a baking tray, duly loaned. Went round to said tray full of meat sausages, burgers and chicken. We do the same for them.

However the "Romesh Vegan" is annoying.

There aren’t many vegetarians or vegans that would either buy or cook meat.
Speaking as a veggie since 1980.

Maybe they are vegan for health reasons but anyone who does it for the love of animals would never cook them , it’s not exactly showing love.

Its very rare.

Agree entirely with the first line though, but lots of people make those sort of sweeping ridiculous comments …..

Kevinbaconsrealwife · 12/03/2025 23:51

He’s sounding worse by the minute….

Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 23:51

Ladamesansmerci · 12/03/2025 23:49

I'm vegan and this is frankly just stupid.

Veganism is about minimising the harm to animals, which you do by not contributing to the supply and demand chain of animal produce. Your vegan dish accidentally being cooked in a pan where dairy has been, or being sat next to a meat dish on the counter, does not contribute to demand for animal products.

Dump him and find someone you can enjoy a meal with without it being a hassle.

This is very well said.

OP posts:
Stirabout · 12/03/2025 23:55

Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 23:51

This is very well said.

Although if he is a strict vegan then any cross contamination ie cooking on a pan that has remnants of dairy on would make the food non vegan
In fact it would make it non vegan whether strict or not

However

Any decent restaurant these days uses separate cooking equipment in a separated space and in fact without that they would fail their inspections

NewMarmiteJar · 12/03/2025 23:58

Thank you, next!

Nodddy · 12/03/2025 23:59

Ugh. Vegans. Absolutely not.

Weepixie · 13/03/2025 00:02

Op, take one for the team and let someone else have the pleasure of this charmers company.

Mmhmmn · 13/03/2025 00:03

Incompatible. Move on.

Saphire123 · 13/03/2025 00:06

Could he have a phobia about eating in public?

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 13/03/2025 00:06

He sounds like hard work and this is only the beginning.
Bye bye matey.

HolidayHattie · 13/03/2025 00:06

Just placemarking in the hope we get to learn his justification for drinking non-vegan beer and wine.

I'd dump him just for drinking Fosters - nothing to do with it's vegan status, it's a terrible beer and shows very poor taste.

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/03/2025 00:06

Stirabout · 12/03/2025 23:50

There aren’t many vegetarians or vegans that would either buy or cook meat.
Speaking as a veggie since 1980.

Maybe they are vegan for health reasons but anyone who does it for the love of animals would never cook them , it’s not exactly showing love.

Its very rare.

Agree entirely with the first line though, but lots of people make those sort of sweeping ridiculous comments …..

Well it happened.

Perhaps I dont know all the veggies/vegans you know.

Matsukaze · 13/03/2025 00:06

Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 23:20

I actually can't fucking believe this.

Foster's isn't vegan??

He gets it delivered every week.

It's the beer he always at home.

So he's drinking a non vegan beer but he won't even come to lunch at the restaurant where I work because he thinks they'll hide hotdogs in his hommous.

I'm honestly speechless. I will tell him about the Foster's to see what he says but I don't think ill be much impressed with his answers.

Foster's isn't vegan. Well. Well. A less strong woman would bloody text him that now.

Can't wait for the update on what his reply is to this. 🍿at the ready!

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 00:09

Saphire123 · 13/03/2025 00:06

Could he have a phobia about eating in public?

Possible. Is that better?

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Hattie907 · 13/03/2025 00:10

HolidayHattie · 13/03/2025 00:06

Just placemarking in the hope we get to learn his justification for drinking non-vegan beer and wine.

I'd dump him just for drinking Fosters - nothing to do with it's vegan status, it's a terrible beer and shows very poor taste.

Yeah, Fosters and a tofu sandwich… 🤔

OP, I couldn’t have sex with him after the tofu sandwich. That would have been it. 😆

NewMarmiteJar · 13/03/2025 00:12

Unless he's a professional chef get rid mate.

Saphire123 · 13/03/2025 00:12

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 00:09

Possible. Is that better?

An explanation, not necessarily better.

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/03/2025 00:15

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 00:09

Possible. Is that better?

No.

Because whatever the issue is, he isnt open to dealing with it. If he is determined to pin in on to his veganism, whatever you say will be shot down. Ultimately, what he wants to do now is all he will want to do, at best, going forward it may be even less.

As a I said, I know a lot of veggies/vegans and the vegans especially are knowledgable on what alcohol is vegan and what isnt. The fact that he gets weekly deliveries of a non vegan beer suggest that his fear of contamination isnt about meat. Probably does have a fear of contamination but is putting under this handy (and fashionable) label of veganism so no one questions him.

The fact is, your life with him will be joyless and not something you want. Why sign up for that?

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 00:19

Matsukaze · 13/03/2025 00:06

Can't wait for the update on what his reply is to this. 🍿at the ready!

I'm feeling like what is the point in discussing the issue.

Also I am terrified he will back down and agree to go out for a meal now.

As it stands I can just say he's brilliant but sadly my main interest in / motivation in having a boyfriend is someone to go out for dinner with.

And we can hopefully just both accept this sad reality of two souls mates sadly cut asunder through incompatability without me ever having to listen to a stupid word that comes out of his mouth.

Also I wanted to do pub quiz last night and even though we were already in the pub he said no so we sat there trying to talk while all the questions were being read out. Maybe there would have been a question about bacon.

He also refuses to wear anything that isn't black. Because his favourite colour is black.

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 13/03/2025 00:25

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 00:19

I'm feeling like what is the point in discussing the issue.

Also I am terrified he will back down and agree to go out for a meal now.

As it stands I can just say he's brilliant but sadly my main interest in / motivation in having a boyfriend is someone to go out for dinner with.

And we can hopefully just both accept this sad reality of two souls mates sadly cut asunder through incompatability without me ever having to listen to a stupid word that comes out of his mouth.

Also I wanted to do pub quiz last night and even though we were already in the pub he said no so we sat there trying to talk while all the questions were being read out. Maybe there would have been a question about bacon.

He also refuses to wear anything that isn't black. Because his favourite colour is black.

Oh christ he sound insufferable!

I wear mainly black because I used to be very fat and it was my "hide away" colour and now its all I feel happy wearing but it isnt a fucking statement!

How old is he? Because he sound like Paul Heaton, a man who cannot accept that he isnt an angst ridden 19 year old student anymore. Fucking bin him off mate, you can do SO much better than this.

ETA as someone who quizzes at a hobby, he would have been dumped on the spot!

TheSandgroper · 13/03/2025 00:26

I know his food choices are the reason at the moment for you to be wondering about him but I bet if you give him a hard look there will be some really weird stuff happening.

1). Food rigidity
2). Poor housekeeping
3). Clothing rigidity

Honestly, if you want ideas about your future together, may I suggest a quiet read through https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5245372-married-to-someone-with-aspergersasdnd-support-thread-14?page=18&reply=141871489 because you might find some parallels in there.

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vickylou78 · 13/03/2025 00:30

TheSandgroper · 13/03/2025 00:26

I know his food choices are the reason at the moment for you to be wondering about him but I bet if you give him a hard look there will be some really weird stuff happening.

1). Food rigidity
2). Poor housekeeping
3). Clothing rigidity

Honestly, if you want ideas about your future together, may I suggest a quiet read through https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5245372-married-to-someone-with-aspergersasdnd-support-thread-14?page=18&reply=141871489 because you might find some parallels in there.

Add to this he doesn't want to drive and won't go to cinema etc.

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/03/2025 00:30

TheSandgroper · 13/03/2025 00:26

I know his food choices are the reason at the moment for you to be wondering about him but I bet if you give him a hard look there will be some really weird stuff happening.

1). Food rigidity
2). Poor housekeeping
3). Clothing rigidity

Honestly, if you want ideas about your future together, may I suggest a quiet read through https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5245372-married-to-someone-with-aspergersasdnd-support-thread-14?page=18&reply=141871489 because you might find some parallels in there.

And although you may be right, in fact I think you are, why should the OP have to find ways to deal with it or excuse it?

She is seeing him as a boyfriend, she isnt living with him or married to him. So its perfectly ok for her to say "nope, not for me" and move on. She has no moral duty to stay in a relationship with him just because his issues may have a diagnosis behind them.

vickylou78 · 13/03/2025 00:30

He sounds incredibly hard work Op!

MsAmerica · 13/03/2025 00:31

Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 22:43

I've started seeing someone. He told me yesterday that he doesn't like dining out. Ever.

He would rather I cook or he cooks and if the relationship continues will apparently never go out for brunch or lunch or dinner with me.

I could of course dine out with friends without him. He would not come for example to any meal with friends he was invited to.

His reason is he is vegan and he says he doesn't trust chefs not to contaminate his food.

I honestly feel like saying I cannot see this relationship going anywhere.

Lol. I could never be with anyone like that. It's a level of fanaticism I'd find unbearable. I hope that you're making him do all the cooking.

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