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New boyfriend won't dine out. Ever.

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Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 22:43

I've started seeing someone. He told me yesterday that he doesn't like dining out. Ever.

He would rather I cook or he cooks and if the relationship continues will apparently never go out for brunch or lunch or dinner with me.

I could of course dine out with friends without him. He would not come for example to any meal with friends he was invited to.

His reason is he is vegan and he says he doesn't trust chefs not to contaminate his food.

I honestly feel like saying I cannot see this relationship going anywhere.

OP posts:
dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:35

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:25

Well yeah I thought so. He hasn't been an active protester for 7 years but yes he used to organise and attend protests against fascism, repressive laws, racism etc

He's committed to his causes and I admire that.

It's when it spills over into calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times) or not wanting to do anything ever (I even suggested a litter pick one day...it was a sunny day...beautiful country lanes...and free...but he didn't want to) that it just feels like an excuse to not participate in the relationship fully.

He's texted in the last half hour all cheery and asking how I'm doing.

I've replied cheery enough. I just want it to fizzle out really. I do not want another intense discussion.

From my hugely limited knowledge of your situation, it sounds like you're doing the right thing. If things are so complicated and difficult already it can only get worse. The "calling food racist" is completely bonkers though!

I hope you find someone normal who will love to take you out for dinner and will even open their blinds! xx

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:40

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 13/03/2025 12:48

He might be vegan but the over-arching reason here seems to be a form of extreme anxiety and control issues over food. I know someone who won't eat anywhere but her own home and all food has to be cooked by her. It's irrational of course, because she'll open a tin or packet and she has no idea what went on in that factory where it was processed. She will go to parties and barbecues and weddings because can get around eating in front of other people by pushing a bit of buffet food around a plate and then just ditching it, but she would have a meltdown at being invited for dinner because she'd find it hard to disguise the fact that she's not eating the food you cooked and put in front of her.

If he wasn't a vegan he'd probably be exactly the same, he just wouldn't be able to make it about his veganism and his distrust that someone won't accidentally or deliberately adulterate his food with animal products.

My ASD ex was like this. Wouldn't eat anything I'd cooked because my food hygeine (perfectly fine, by the way) wasn't up to her standards. Ditto anything my Mum cooked-she'd offer to do the cooking under the guise of being nice but although it was appreciated, it wasn't for that reason. It was because she'd not eat anything others had made.

But! She'd happily order from the dodgiest 1star takeaway in town and get a greasy pizza. Not a problem. I did educate her on how rice was cooked and how supermarket goods are stored etc etc-again no problem, would eat at the local greasy spoon, anything. But home cooked-nope.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:41

RampantIvy · 13/03/2025 12:57

That was for some general tofu inspiration. I'm not even vegetarian let alone vegan. I just like all types of food. What did you do about food while he was eating his?

Your soon to be ex would find my kitchen very racist. My most used pan is a wok Grin

Eating deicious food is important to me so the relationship wouldn't even have got this far for me.

I hope you keep that wok FAR away from your English deep fat fryer and your native frying pans.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:42

TR888 · 13/03/2025 13:11

(is he any good at sex?)

I genuinely want to know this too!

Huckyfell · 13/03/2025 15:42

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:25

Well yeah I thought so. He hasn't been an active protester for 7 years but yes he used to organise and attend protests against fascism, repressive laws, racism etc

He's committed to his causes and I admire that.

It's when it spills over into calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times) or not wanting to do anything ever (I even suggested a litter pick one day...it was a sunny day...beautiful country lanes...and free...but he didn't want to) that it just feels like an excuse to not participate in the relationship fully.

He's texted in the last half hour all cheery and asking how I'm doing.

I've replied cheery enough. I just want it to fizzle out really. I do not want another intense discussion.

I'd hate him to see in my cupboards, the indian stuff is on the bottom shelf of the cupboard round the corner, just beneath the Chinese stuff. The more traditional European stuff is all on hand and there is a drawer full of it. I hadn't even thought it could have been racist but obviously brown sauce matters.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 13/03/2025 15:46

@Beautifulbouquet he sounds like a genuine nut job! you would be well rid of him!

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:46

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:42

I genuinely want to know this too!

OP answered at 10.46 this morning to say he's affectionate and generous.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:49

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:46

OP answered at 10.46 this morning to say he's affectionate and generous.

Thank you! I missed that! Well, that's something I guess. She'd just have to tell him to refrain from the soggy tofu on cheap bread sandwich until after fornication happens.

OrlandointheWilderness · 13/03/2025 15:53

Bloody hell. One of the true joys of life is a meal out for me!
This isn't just because he is a vegan. This is because he is a weirdo.

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 13/03/2025 15:54

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:40

My ASD ex was like this. Wouldn't eat anything I'd cooked because my food hygeine (perfectly fine, by the way) wasn't up to her standards. Ditto anything my Mum cooked-she'd offer to do the cooking under the guise of being nice but although it was appreciated, it wasn't for that reason. It was because she'd not eat anything others had made.

But! She'd happily order from the dodgiest 1star takeaway in town and get a greasy pizza. Not a problem. I did educate her on how rice was cooked and how supermarket goods are stored etc etc-again no problem, would eat at the local greasy spoon, anything. But home cooked-nope.

It's like 'out of sight, out of mind' isn't it? People are strange.

crockofshite · 13/03/2025 15:58

RampantIvy · 13/03/2025 12:57

That was for some general tofu inspiration. I'm not even vegetarian let alone vegan. I just like all types of food. What did you do about food while he was eating his?

Your soon to be ex would find my kitchen very racist. My most used pan is a wok Grin

Eating deicious food is important to me so the relationship wouldn't even have got this far for me.

All my cast iron cook ware is black 😳

TR888 · 13/03/2025 16:09

Why wish for things to fizzle out, OP? Why not just take control and leave him?

You are quite clearly not attracted to his personality, and I don't blame you!

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 16:14

TR888 · 13/03/2025 16:09

Why wish for things to fizzle out, OP? Why not just take control and leave him?

You are quite clearly not attracted to his personality, and I don't blame you!

She said she had to collect her belongings from his house, so that might be why she hasn't just binned and blocked?

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 16:14

TR888 · 13/03/2025 16:09

Why wish for things to fizzle out, OP? Why not just take control and leave him?

You are quite clearly not attracted to his personality, and I don't blame you!

Because we've been dating a really short while ..I don't need to leave him. I can just pass on any opportunities to drink beer with him and not offer to cook for him again.

I don't want a deep conversation when it's not warranted. We dated for a while...it fizzled out.

Plus I'd like to get my stuff from his without it being tense, awkward and resentful.

OP posts:
AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 16:15

crockofshite · 13/03/2025 15:58

All my cast iron cook ware is black 😳

I've just realised-mine is too! AND I have a brown slow cooker books oneself onto a diversity awareness course immediately

Sorry, I know I am being silly now. I am in the middle of an incredibly boring work-related task!

Dovetail22uk2 · 13/03/2025 16:18

Ionut · 13/03/2025 15:23

Oh come on... Don't you read beyond the dictionary definition...?

Go on then, tell us why you think Antifa are bad?

Ionut · 13/03/2025 16:23

Dovetail22uk2 · 13/03/2025 16:18

Go on then, tell us why you think Antifa are bad?

The violence.

Yerblues · 13/03/2025 16:27

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 12/03/2025 22:55

If he's happy to cook for you, at your place or his, and bring nice picnics when you go out places together, what's the problem?

I've worked (as a chef) in plenty of catering establishments, and as a direct result, don't trust them all either <to not contaminate my food, have shoddy hygiene standards, &/ or use unhealthy/ unethical ingredients>

I much prefer to make my own food, so I can be sure of what I'm eating and its provenance (and eat more organic, relatively unprocessed wholefoods).

My brother (also a former chef) isn't vegan, but hardly ever eats out either - again he prefers to make his own food, and know exactly where it's come from.

I also don't like the fact that most of the profits usually go to the owners, and however skilled and hard-working the cooks, servers and other staff are, they usually get paid at close to minimum wage. Why would I want to support that industry? I prefer to frequent places that operate differently, eg as workers co-ops, but they are few and far between in this country.

How depressing to be so tight and suspicious of everything.

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 16:36

Ionut · 13/03/2025 16:23

The violence.

How else would women have got the vote if it wasn't for the suffragettes committing arson, bombings of infrastructure (without harming people), and other forms of direct action because peaceful methods had largely been ignored? They were met with brutal state violence—beaten, imprisoned, and force-fed during hunger strikes. Similarly, resistance movements against fascist regimes in the 20th century had to use force because those in power would not relinquish control voluntarily. Is one kind of violence okay but another not?

RampantIvy · 13/03/2025 16:43

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 16:14

Because we've been dating a really short while ..I don't need to leave him. I can just pass on any opportunities to drink beer with him and not offer to cook for him again.

I don't want a deep conversation when it's not warranted. We dated for a while...it fizzled out.

Plus I'd like to get my stuff from his without it being tense, awkward and resentful.

Won't he notice when you take your toothbrush home?

BunnyLake · 13/03/2025 16:44

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:33

..calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times)...

So it wasn't a one-off, brain fart comment? He legitimately thinks not putting your soy sauce with your guacamole, or your Thai green curry with your ketchup is racist - the mind boggles 🤯😖

Supermarkets must be racist then because they put each separate cuisine together too.

BunnyLake · 13/03/2025 16:48

He’ll be saying cooking ‘foreign’ food is cultural appropriation next.

Miyagi99 · 13/03/2025 16:49

This is just an excuse, loads of vegan options and vegan only restaurants, the UK is very good with dietary and allergy restrictions. I know lots of vegans (and have followed a vegan diet in the past myself) and it doesn’t prevent anyone eating out nowadays.

ShodAndShadySenators · 13/03/2025 16:49

The pantry segragation reminds me of that poor poster who was accused of racism because she organised her washing powder for whites and powder for colours into discrete labelled jars.

It's practicality and sensible organisation to the majority of us, laundry apartheid to a weird minority.

Just think how much material OP now has for those threads about the weird boyfriends that pop up every so often...

Miyagi99 · 13/03/2025 16:54

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 13:42

Oh God we'd be trawling the streets of Marrakech hunting for tofu to munch in our hotel room which has the curtains shut wouldn't we

Also I'm remembering that when we went to the hotel he didn't shower.

It was a one night stay. I showered evening before we went out then in the morning.

He didn't shower. I didn't ask why not (we didn't have sex in part because the tofu sandwich really put off any sexy thoughts I had). But I'm wondering if he thought the hotel water might also be contaminating.

If he has these fears if course that's sad and difficult. But I don't want to spend my life at home.

Loads of vegan options in Marrakech!