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New boyfriend won't dine out. Ever.

915 replies

Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 22:43

I've started seeing someone. He told me yesterday that he doesn't like dining out. Ever.

He would rather I cook or he cooks and if the relationship continues will apparently never go out for brunch or lunch or dinner with me.

I could of course dine out with friends without him. He would not come for example to any meal with friends he was invited to.

His reason is he is vegan and he says he doesn't trust chefs not to contaminate his food.

I honestly feel like saying I cannot see this relationship going anywhere.

OP posts:
Ionut · 13/03/2025 14:10

enkelt2 · 13/03/2025 13:56

Yea, I didn't see the Antifa and racist bits... So he and OP are incompatible. Being an imperfect vegan doesn't make him a bad person, though.

It does when you're on your high horse about "contamination" when you are drinking non-vegan beer that would take 10 seconds of googling to find out if it was vegan or nor.

Pensionableperil · 13/03/2025 14:15

Verrrrrry rigid thinking. Plus the not wearing different clothes and the possible sensory overload of different foods or a shower? Screams neurodivergence.

ItGhoul · 13/03/2025 14:21

Pensionableperil · 13/03/2025 14:15

Verrrrrry rigid thinking. Plus the not wearing different clothes and the possible sensory overload of different foods or a shower? Screams neurodivergence.

So what, though? A diagnosis of autism isn’t going to make his behaviour any less annoying. A life of never being able to eat in restaurants with your boyfriend is joyless whether he’s autistic or not.

Starlight1984 · 13/03/2025 14:21

Hattie907 · 13/03/2025 00:10

Yeah, Fosters and a tofu sandwich… 🤔

OP, I couldn’t have sex with him after the tofu sandwich. That would have been it. 😆

😂So true. I cannot think of anything less sexy than a man eating a tofu sandwich.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 13/03/2025 14:21

Oh OP this isn’t sustainable long term. This will only be the tip of the iceberg, and it will only be a matter of time before the hints at you becoming vegan will begin to creep in. If it goes the distance and you marry, imagine the mealtime hassles and the effect on any children. Being vegan is a lifestyle choice, but it shouldn’t limit his life like this - it’s bordering on paranoia.

ItGhoul · 13/03/2025 14:23

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 13:52

@Ionut I'm waiting for him to get in touch whilst hoping he won't

I have got stuff at his I need (within the next few days)

I'm worried if I say it's the eating out thing he'll say we can go out (then probably it will never happen or he'll go and not order anything)

I'm doing that cowardly thing where you hope they kind of figure out you're losing interest

Who knows...maybe he was going off me and he said he'd never eat a meal out as he knew it would put me off

Maybe he's been trying to get rid of me all this time

Imagining him texting his mate (FFS I even crumbled raw tofu onto cold bread just before we were going to have sex and she still won't fucking break up with me!!!)

I'm worried if I say it's the eating out thing he'll say we can go out (then probably it will never happen or he'll go and not order anything)

You don’t have to give him any reason other than that the relationship isn’t working for you.

BigDeepBreaths · 13/03/2025 14:30

He will suck the joy out of your life. Not because he is vegan. Because is a sucker-of-joy.

RUN!!

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 14:36

Does anyone remember an article in 'Woman's Own' from the 90s, about a guy who'd collect and store his own bellybutton fluff?

I can picture his skinny, pale frame with huge rimmed glasses.

For some reason, until the knowledge about OPs boyfriend came into my life, I'd forgotten all about him.

friendlycat · 13/03/2025 14:38

He sounds odd. Don't date odd. You can do much better than odd.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 14:38

Huckyfell · 13/03/2025 06:38

A fussy vegan, surely he can find a vegan girl to save spoiling another couple.
You'll find another better.

Can you all stop saying this?!

I'm a lesbian but on behalf of my lovely, fun-having non-fosters-drinking happy-to-eat-out-clean-kitchen-having non-cold-tofu-sandwich-eating vegan friends, we don't want him! Grin

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 14:48

Deetroit · 13/03/2025 08:28

What a friend said to me, when I was at university and dating a vegan with a long fingernail and a squeaky voice, and bad trousers, though he was really very gorgeous:

“Is he any good in bed?”. The answer was no. She said that was the answer. So there you have it. Apply that final question to six tomato man.

To be fair,I've dated only one Foster's drinker and she was an absolute cunt so I can apply this to them too. But I am fantastic in bed, thank you very much. 😂

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:00

Quinlan · 13/03/2025 09:00

Sorry, whats the relevance of this guy’s brother being gay? You’re talking about aspects of these men which you didn’t like (the fussy eating) so why comment about his brother’s sexuality as if it is also an insult? It’s kind of shown you in a pretty bad light actually.

As for the guy you’re currently dating; he just sounds like a total drip. End if, find someone else. There are lots of men.

It read to me as if she'd just began stating he was gay with a view to saying 'And me and him would text....' to avoid being confusing, and then changed her paragraph, rather than judging someone for being gay.

TheLette · 13/03/2025 15:03

Sounds like a bore (not because he is vegan but because he won't eat out). Has he even ruled out vegan restaurants?

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:10

queensgambits · 13/03/2025 10:04

I think that this is a lot more than him being a vegan.

I am a vegetarian and have vegan friends. They are happy to eat at restaurants that advertise vegan options. Most eateries do at least one vegan option (even Wetherspoons ! )

Maybe he has underlying "germphobia" or paranoia and is frightened someone is trying to poison him?

I can't see this working out well for you OP.

Sorry x

Wetherspoons are fantastic for vegans IME. Lots of options and has been since long before veganism was a popular belief.

I love casual dining and would love to support more independent places rather than the likes of spoons and chains but they're unfortunately yet to catch up.

The germophobic thing can also be an autism trait-if this dude doesn't have ASD I'll show my as$ in Harrod's window. Not saying anything BAD about those with ASD of course! But the rigidity and same clothes etc.. just screams it.

Lottie6712 · 13/03/2025 15:12

Oooh, it'd be an absolute no for me.

Miaowzabella · 13/03/2025 15:14

Oh dear. Is there any pleasant, normal, sociable, life-enhancing activity that your boyfriend actually enjoys?

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:18

Nchanged89 · 13/03/2025 11:46

Oh come on OP.

Being in Antifa is a GOOD thing! It literally means "anti-fascist".

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:20

Miaowzabella · 13/03/2025 15:14

Oh dear. Is there any pleasant, normal, sociable, life-enhancing activity that your boyfriend actually enjoys?

Drinking beer?

OP posts:
Ionut · 13/03/2025 15:23

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:18

Being in Antifa is a GOOD thing! It literally means "anti-fascist".

Oh come on... Don't you read beyond the dictionary definition...?

Ionut · 13/03/2025 15:23

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:20

Drinking beer?

Non vegan beer apparently 🤣

minnienono · 13/03/2025 15:24

Would he go to a vega restaurant? Stay in a vegan b&b? If no then there’s no hope, it’s not about contamination

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:25

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:18

Being in Antifa is a GOOD thing! It literally means "anti-fascist".

Well yeah I thought so. He hasn't been an active protester for 7 years but yes he used to organise and attend protests against fascism, repressive laws, racism etc

He's committed to his causes and I admire that.

It's when it spills over into calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times) or not wanting to do anything ever (I even suggested a litter pick one day...it was a sunny day...beautiful country lanes...and free...but he didn't want to) that it just feels like an excuse to not participate in the relationship fully.

He's texted in the last half hour all cheery and asking how I'm doing.

I've replied cheery enough. I just want it to fizzle out really. I do not want another intense discussion.

OP posts:
AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:28

CautiousLurker01 · 13/03/2025 11:00

Going to put my head above the parapet here and say that I think, sadly, you are dealing with a person on the autism spectrum. My entire extended family is, and although we are completely different in the way each of us presents, the rigidness with what/where he will eat, only wearing black etc all resonate.

Obviously most of us have partners, are married etc, but it took special people to look past our individual idiosyncrasies and/or at least ones with similarly aligned foibles of their own. As lovely as this guy may have been on many levels, I think that if you are finding it stressful to navigate a relationship with him, then it’s best to let him go. There will be another person out there who is into home cooking/veganism and staying in. She just isn’t you.

And you will find someone who will be game for an impromptu bar meal and pub quiz. If it is this much hard work now, it will only get harder so best to break up before one/both of you become more attached.

Thank you for this post. I too feel sad saying this but without being ableist because I am sure there are perfect partners out there for people with ASD however presenting, but I dated someone with ASD for a few years and her presentation of it was so, so hard for me that it did me quite a lot of damage-I should have walked away much, much earlier to enable her (and me!) to find someone more suited. Please take heed OP.

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:33

..calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times)...

So it wasn't a one-off, brain fart comment? He legitimately thinks not putting your soy sauce with your guacamole, or your Thai green curry with your ketchup is racist - the mind boggles 🤯😖

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:35

lily219 · 13/03/2025 11:51

I wonder if many vegans worry about the 'meat' that they unknowingly consume? A small amount of some contaminants (insects etc) are permitted in, for instance, flour. Then there are the tiny aphids you occasionally unknowingly eat on salads and vegetables. These can't be avoided. It's fine to be vegan and a great thing for the environment, but people have to be realistic about it. Refusing to eat out ever is taking things too far.

As I've previously said, having been vegan since the beginning of time (well, over twenty years) never once have I met a vegan who won't eat out. Even back in the 'Chips and salad/beans and baked potato or nothing' days.

Veganism is 'take the path of least harm' and 'As is practically possible'. We can't worry about every little thing any more than a Christian worries about doing something 'wrong' (wearing mixed fabrics, not going to church every day) does.

I swallowed a fly yesterday while out running. A takeaway once sent me meat bhajis by mistake and I bit into one. I once unknowingly made a cake with weevils in the flower and of course must've killed them all. Non-vegan products are in most electricals-I am not worried about it. I do my best and that's all anybody can ever ask of anyone.

In the early days, I'd sometimes enter a dinner party, bring my own wine but if the host thrust one into my hand upon arrival I'd drink it out of being polite, too. Now with more choices that isn't such an issue any longer but again, I didn't beat myself up about it.