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To feel rejected by mother’s group?

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Copenhagener · 09/03/2025 06:32

I had my baby girl 4 months ago.

I was placed in a new mother’s group by my health visitor and we are encouraged to meet weekly.

Background: had a terrible time getting pregnant and needed IVF, and had an awful pregnancy and ended up with some quite intense post-partum depression. Breastfeeding didn’t work out (my milk never really came in and baby ended up in NICU because her body needed more food) so I switched to formula with no other choice - and she is now thriving and it admittedly made my life a lot easier. I also had to have a planned c-section because baby was footling breech and I had severe polyhydramnios that could’ve killed her if I’d gone into labour naturally. I will never, ever have another child.

In a nutshell: I didn’t have it particularly easy.

The women in my mother group all had natural unmedicated births, exclusively breastfeed, co-sleep, baby wear, and spend the sessions talking about never getting any sleep themselves, and their complications from vaginal delivery/sore boobs/hormones and cranky crying up all night babies. All normal things - but none that I experience.

I really try not to bring up my experience of my baby - she sleeps through the night in her own bed, doesn’t really cry, and is a very happy, independent girl and eats easily (and my partner and I do 50/50 with feeds). I don’t find being a mother that challenging generally - besides my mental health sometimes. But I feel they think I’m a ’fake’ or bad mother because I have no real issues or complaints and I don’t want to make them up!

some things I’ve had said:

  • breast is so much better for them! I would never formula feed - the hospital made me once and I was so happy my baby refluxed that rubbish straight back up
  • You should see a lactation consultant (I did)
  • why didn’t you keep trying with pumping, I pump every 2 hours
  • I am so proud of my birth - I tore 3rd degree but at least I didn’t have a c-section - it would’ve wrecked my mental health to know I didn’t give birth properly to her.
  • there must be something wrong with your baby if she sleeps so much
  • Why do you use a pacifier, it’s bad for them (she has a strong suck reflux and hospital recommended them for non-bf babies)
  • she’s really big. (She’s 7.5kg/size 68) are you over feeding her?
  • how could you only want one child, she will be lonely.
  • why would you want to go back to work so quickly? (I’m taking 8 months leave then dad is doing 3 months).
  • I could never leave my baby alone while they’re so little (I go to the cinema/beauty salon/yoga/Pilates/etc a couple of times a week while dad takes care of baby at the weekends/evenings).
  • Why do you take her to all those classes? They just want mum right now and it’s overstimulating! (We go to disco babies / baby swim / baby singing - she loves it!).
  • Why don’t you use a carrier? (she’s heavy and I had a section!). Plus; I find walking her in the pram is helping my core rehabilitate more.

I don’t openly say I get good sleep, but when one specifically asked I did tell her (and reiterated it’s probably sheer luck I have a good sleeper and nothing I’ve done) she stopped replying to me completely.

I feel a bit left out and actually like I’m annoying them because we don’t relate much. In my country breastfeeding is very widespread and quite judged about if you don’t do it. C sections cannot be elective so they’re quite unusual too. I want to be sympathetic and I am, but I don’t have first hand experience and it shows.

I just feel sad that there’s no grace given for my baby decisions/what happened to me, and that while I am lucky now with my daughter and her temperament, it wasn’t always this way and could easily change in future.

Would it be unreasonable to stop going to the group? My health visitor says I really should continue for my mental health/ppd. But I feel unwelcome and actually more sad after each meet up.

OP posts:
Hollyhedge · 10/03/2025 18:21

Just stop hanging out with them. They sound awful

Timeforanotheraliasnow · 10/03/2025 18:30

You sound totally awesome with all your activities with and without your baby! Please leave this group and put this mum mafia behind you xx

Crazybaby123 · 10/03/2025 18:52

I would hate this group OP. Leave the group and find aome other mother and baby groups to go to.

WhatNoRaisins · 10/03/2025 18:55

I think when it comes to the baby stage you have to experiment and then keep doing the things that work for you and make you feel better.

tillymintt · 10/03/2025 18:56

they sound like arses tbh.
It's hard if the group are mostly breastfeeding and you are formula feeding. The 'natural' mothering movement has produced some very smug insufferable people.

UncharteredWaters · 10/03/2025 19:06

@Copenhagener you've done a wonderful job or nurturing your baby and she sounds smashing!!

Maybe this will make you laugh:
A good friend experienced comments like you re feeding (that kept her preemie alive) she’s the kindest, meekest, mild mannered person you could meet…

One day to a comment about ‘I’d rather eat my own face off than formula feed’ she just snapped and said ‘well I was relieved to have a live baby than a dead one, even with the demon of formula milk’ and then followed it up with ‘but I’m also relieved I’m not an ignorant twat with an ugly mouth’ and smiled.

It was a moment of beauty. There was shocked silence whilst she continued drinking tea and eating biscuits!

SuzieQ2024 · 10/03/2025 19:07

I think some women love to talk themselves up and can't accept there isn't one way to parent a baby! You sound like you're doing great (well done!), I wouldn't stay in that one but I'd remain open to others. Peanut can be a good way to meet like minded Moms nearby! X

bitteroulbag · 10/03/2025 19:07

My best friend is Danish, living in Copenhagen with her four children nearby. Her youngest daughter had a wee baby six months ago - the 8th grandchild and the first one to be bottle fed. Absolutely NO cruel judgement there - OP your people are out there! PM me if you like.

Sarahw33 · 10/03/2025 19:16

I wouldn’t waste anymore energy on those. Karma will get them for being so judgy. Find a different group. With mums that live in the real world.

TizerorFizz · 10/03/2025 19:30

I found the real world for many is being judgemental and not being prepared to accept that other mums might prefer another way. At NCT, when I mentioned an epidural, there was a sharp intake of breath. They were all planning on a "natural" birth but being older I wanted the easy way for me. However I felt I was letting woman-kind down immediately and was definitely an outsider from then on. There's umpteen ways you are judged. You just have to close your ears to it. It's always felt wrong to me that women cannot support each other. They only support people like them which is a bit sad.

Dsis was older than me with third dc. Home birth and other dc present. All planet be calm and lovely. It all went wrong. Total nightmare. Planning is great but reality can be very different.

Penguinmouse · 10/03/2025 19:32

These mums all sound horrible?! I would definitely step away if you don’t enjoy going. It sounds like they’re adding nothing to your experience.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 10/03/2025 19:32

Copenhagener · 09/03/2025 06:32

I had my baby girl 4 months ago.

I was placed in a new mother’s group by my health visitor and we are encouraged to meet weekly.

Background: had a terrible time getting pregnant and needed IVF, and had an awful pregnancy and ended up with some quite intense post-partum depression. Breastfeeding didn’t work out (my milk never really came in and baby ended up in NICU because her body needed more food) so I switched to formula with no other choice - and she is now thriving and it admittedly made my life a lot easier. I also had to have a planned c-section because baby was footling breech and I had severe polyhydramnios that could’ve killed her if I’d gone into labour naturally. I will never, ever have another child.

In a nutshell: I didn’t have it particularly easy.

The women in my mother group all had natural unmedicated births, exclusively breastfeed, co-sleep, baby wear, and spend the sessions talking about never getting any sleep themselves, and their complications from vaginal delivery/sore boobs/hormones and cranky crying up all night babies. All normal things - but none that I experience.

I really try not to bring up my experience of my baby - she sleeps through the night in her own bed, doesn’t really cry, and is a very happy, independent girl and eats easily (and my partner and I do 50/50 with feeds). I don’t find being a mother that challenging generally - besides my mental health sometimes. But I feel they think I’m a ’fake’ or bad mother because I have no real issues or complaints and I don’t want to make them up!

some things I’ve had said:

  • breast is so much better for them! I would never formula feed - the hospital made me once and I was so happy my baby refluxed that rubbish straight back up
  • You should see a lactation consultant (I did)
  • why didn’t you keep trying with pumping, I pump every 2 hours
  • I am so proud of my birth - I tore 3rd degree but at least I didn’t have a c-section - it would’ve wrecked my mental health to know I didn’t give birth properly to her.
  • there must be something wrong with your baby if she sleeps so much
  • Why do you use a pacifier, it’s bad for them (she has a strong suck reflux and hospital recommended them for non-bf babies)
  • she’s really big. (She’s 7.5kg/size 68) are you over feeding her?
  • how could you only want one child, she will be lonely.
  • why would you want to go back to work so quickly? (I’m taking 8 months leave then dad is doing 3 months).
  • I could never leave my baby alone while they’re so little (I go to the cinema/beauty salon/yoga/Pilates/etc a couple of times a week while dad takes care of baby at the weekends/evenings).
  • Why do you take her to all those classes? They just want mum right now and it’s overstimulating! (We go to disco babies / baby swim / baby singing - she loves it!).
  • Why don’t you use a carrier? (she’s heavy and I had a section!). Plus; I find walking her in the pram is helping my core rehabilitate more.

I don’t openly say I get good sleep, but when one specifically asked I did tell her (and reiterated it’s probably sheer luck I have a good sleeper and nothing I’ve done) she stopped replying to me completely.

I feel a bit left out and actually like I’m annoying them because we don’t relate much. In my country breastfeeding is very widespread and quite judged about if you don’t do it. C sections cannot be elective so they’re quite unusual too. I want to be sympathetic and I am, but I don’t have first hand experience and it shows.

I just feel sad that there’s no grace given for my baby decisions/what happened to me, and that while I am lucky now with my daughter and her temperament, it wasn’t always this way and could easily change in future.

Would it be unreasonable to stop going to the group? My health visitor says I really should continue for my mental health/ppd. But I feel unwelcome and actually more sad after each meet up.

You are doing everything right OP. Ignore these horrible women. I had similar experiences to you with my first born. Traumatic birth, NICU stay and therefore breast feeding just didn't happen (they kicked me out of mat ward after 2 nights which really didn't help) and PND. I stopped going to a local mum's group as they were similarly biased about a lot of things(especially breast feeding) and think they knew best about my baby. Like you though my baby slept through the night which I think is secretly the reason they hated me not breast feeding. Stop going and preserve your own mental health and you will end up meeting some nice mums at the activities you go to. Go with your gut. It is never wrong. Good luck. 💐

restingbitchface30 · 10/03/2025 19:52

Stop going to that group immediately they sound awful! Find a new group which you enjoy and you can meet some nice people. This group isn’t great for your mental health. I tried a few groups until I found a couple that I actually enjoyed.

justanotherimperfectmum2025 · 10/03/2025 20:22

Sounds like a bunch of judgemental over critical stepford wife bitches.

You don't need that kind of negativity or comparison.

Motherhood is hard enough. You're doing a great job, your baby is thriving.

LEAVE THE GROUP IMMEDIATELY!!

JLou08 · 10/03/2025 20:29

Your health visitor is wrong. Being with a group of women you feel judge you and who you are not enjoying being around will not be good for your mental health, it will be the opposite. Sounds like you are getting out of the house with the other baby groups so it's not like this group is your only opportunity to socialise. I'd cut them out of my life and never look back.

wintertimes · 10/03/2025 20:39

They are toxic, please stop going to the group. I despise the pressure we are put under, this would never happen to men. I bet you are in the UK!

WaveChaser · 10/03/2025 20:40

You're only 4 months in...plenty of time to find your real Mum friends.

It took me a while- I too had a good sleeper/formula fed/c-section baby and broke away from my NCT group. In religiously went along to my village playgroup and still good friends with a lot of the Mums now many years down the line. Hormones are still wild at 4 months, remember to be kind to yourself xx

TheaBrandt1 · 10/03/2025 20:45

That’s why it was nice working in the City away from the toxic natural birthers. Remember being pregnant with my first and another first time pregnant woman was spouting similar about her planned natural birth. The super glam experienced mothers shook their heads one said “you don’t get a fucking medal love”. Sounds mean but helped when I ended up with an emergency c section!

Yourcatisnotsorry · 10/03/2025 20:57

If it’s not helping you stop going!

You are making very different parenting choices to them and so you will feel judged when they share their thoughts on parenting issues even if they aren’t directed at you. At this stage of parenting it’s so intense about baby and mums have really strong emotions and views about parenting choices. I couldn’t imagine leaving my baby to go to the cinema/beauty salon twice a week. It would physically hurt me. But that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t or that it’s wrong or I’m judging you. Just that I couldn’t. Some such as the lactation consultant or pumping advice they may be trying to help you consider how to achieve what you want.

Doughnut89 · 10/03/2025 21:11

Wow 😮 those women sound like cnts.
im sorry you’ve ended up with such a judgmental group. I’ve become such good friends with my mum group, our babies are 9/10 months now and we’re planning a joint first birthday for them.
There are ten of us in total and we all had different births, a mix of c section (mainly emergency rather than elective actually) and vaginal, we also all had very different feeding journeys and a couple had to stop breastfeeding and switch to formula or combination feed (like me) we just support each other through it all regardless of how different our experiences are to each other which is how these groups should be.
hopefully if you keep going to these different baby classes you’ll eventually find your group of mums who will support you. And for what it’s worth, there was a point when I was taking my newborn to seven different classes a week. He wasn’t overstimulated, he did sleep through some of them lol but the classes are more for the mums than the babies at that age. Also my son always slept really well through the night too which I think was in part due to the stimulation he was receiving during the day. You should tell those judgemental tw
ts that their babies are probably not being stimulated enough and that’s why they’re not sleeping 🙄

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/03/2025 21:12

Yourcatisnotsorry · 10/03/2025 20:57

If it’s not helping you stop going!

You are making very different parenting choices to them and so you will feel judged when they share their thoughts on parenting issues even if they aren’t directed at you. At this stage of parenting it’s so intense about baby and mums have really strong emotions and views about parenting choices. I couldn’t imagine leaving my baby to go to the cinema/beauty salon twice a week. It would physically hurt me. But that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t or that it’s wrong or I’m judging you. Just that I couldn’t. Some such as the lactation consultant or pumping advice they may be trying to help you consider how to achieve what you want.

But OP having an emergency c-section wasn't a choice, formula feeding wasn't a choice either as breastfeeding caused her baby to end up in hospital.

HappyMamma2023 · 10/03/2025 21:34

Give them a medal for being model mums and move on! These mums sound aren't your type of people. Sounds like you and baby are thriving and perhaps they're jealous?
I say this as an IVF, difficult pregnancy and emergency C-section mum who also bottle fed and baby slept through the night early on. I loved it!

VivienneBL · 10/03/2025 21:36

Oh how horrible but not the first time I’ve come across this . What makes me laugh is that those self righteous mums will come across all kinds of problems as their kids grow and shouldn’t be so judgy and rude.
Stay away from them and find some other classes . Just because they’re also mums doesn’t mean they’re your friends. I’d rather have no friends than friends like that!
School mums / baby group mums are like school , some are nice , some are bitches and there are mean girls . Stay calm and away from the toxic . Also it sounds like you’re smashing it after what has been a tough time so forget them . X

MyrtleHope · 10/03/2025 21:37

If they’ve really said all that they all sound bonkers!

shrinkingthiswinter · 10/03/2025 22:10

Suddenly I’m glad I was in a baby group full of mothers who’d had really tough starts.

Except of course I’d rather we’d all had it easier, but there was a lot of empathy.

Congratulations on your baby, OP, and a thousand well dones for how you are managing.