Captain Toms daughter

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Is currently getting her arse handed to her by Judge Rinder on Good Morning Britain...

She is not coming across well.

Goodness, I've never watched Good Morning Britain in my life but what an extraordinary clip! Yes that Rinder was forensic and superb at pinning her down. I cannot fathom why on earth she went on there - yes I know she's promoting a book but honestly she must have some kind of disassociating personality disorder in order to have the brass neck to sit there!

I think from watching the interview that Captain Tom said something to the effect of ' I'm so glad I can write this book and raise even more money for charity' but when it came down to it the money all went to Hannah. She then said she was going tobuse the money for a memorial to him, used his name on a planning application and then built a spa with it! Just brazen!

Hannah Ingram-Moore is absolutely shameless. You would think she would keep her head low and stay out of the limelight. Yet this tone deaf, arrogant woman continues to milk this whole saga for every sordid penny she can get. Absolutely vile.

I’ve just watched the clip. I suppose she thought that as her dad raised £33 million for the NHS, which presumably she did a lot to orchestrate, that no one would care or notice about the proceeds of the book or the speaking engagement. Or the building!

And what I think she was trying to say was that if they hadn’t formed a formal charity to remember her father’s legacy, then no one would perhaps have been any the wiser. They could have just taken the money themselves.

But… this doesn’t explain why Captain Tom’s book, had a line in the prologue where he said “with the offer to write this memoir I have also been given the chance to raise even more money for the charitable foundation now established in my name”.

And this was one of the Charity Commission’s findings ; that this could not be interpreted in any other way, that some or all of the proceeds from the book would go to the charity.

She and her husband seem to be either very cheeky or very unintelligent and I am not sure which! Most people would surely understand that once your name is linked to a high profile charity then your personal dealings, accounts and actions have to be above board and managed scrupulously well.

And she seems to show the same lack of awareness in not understanding that self-publishing more books and appearing on morning tv, after everything that has happened, might not be the best of strategies!
Did she really think that past events would not be referred to?

Really quite strange behaviour imho! Quite fascinating too! She either has let the press stories about her family’s charitable works go to her head, or she was greedy from the outset? It’s hard to know which!

I suppose she could be wondering why the £33 million that her dad raised wasn’t enough and that she has been treated unfairly as it probably wouldn’t have come about without her input? And that she and her dh “deserved” a little pay off? And then rationalised all the other stuff in her head? That’s a somewhat benign interpretation of events anyway!

Edited to say: maybe now as the house is being sold, and after the lost money on the building work and and a ruined reputation, they are in financial difficulties, and she was paid to appear on the tv, and therefore thought she had no choice. This is all speculation on my part; but it’s the only explanation that makes any sense or why put yourself through that? Uncomfortable viewing!

She is totally deluded. Anyone with an ounce of common sense, compassion, empathy and self awareness would realise she has really pissed off the great British public and she would NOT double down and act like everything she has done is normal and ok

Once you run a charity, you are required to abide by the declared objects of the charity and abide by the requirements of the Charity Commission in terms of how it's run. It's not really about how you run your own separate finances.

The Charities Commission looked into how the Charity they founded was run. Obviously the findings are known but once you run a charity your personal bank accounts are not scrutinized. However, once there are questions about money being raised and not going into the Charity, there's obviously an inquiry as to why people donated money or bought something via a trading arm and the charity didn't get the proceeds. Following on from that, the Ingram Moores weee found not to be suitable people to run a charity. So anytime sensible would rectify the situation and shut up!

Final thought: anyone with half a brain cell would be aware that once the press build you and your family up to be heroes, then they will have the feelers out looking for flaws or underhand or corrupt behaviour with which they can pinch a hole in the inflated bubble they have created!

That sounds as if I am being sympathetic to Hannah Ingram-Moore and I am absolutely not; I just find the lack of self awareness incredibly interesting! Other than money; I can’t for the life of me understand what possessed her to appear on tv to be grilled by Rob Rinder.

Thanks for the clarification *TizerorFizz *
that’s really interesting

I was wondering how much power the CC had to investigate personal finances alongside those of the actual charity. I guess there are lots of cases where the waters are muddied?

Maybe she was told she'd be interviewed by Kate (who is generally the Friday lead with Suzanne Monday -Wednesday and maybe ranvir doing Thursdays?

Having rob there maybe wasn't explained in advance.

I seem to remember it was mainly itv and piers Morgan that mad this from “and in other news” story to the massive thing it became

It was on BBC incessantly too!

Just because people here didn’t get involved in the pan bashing doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Ridiculous as it was, it brought neighbours out into the street for a moment of community. For some, that was the only human contact they were getting. Good for you if you didn’t need that, but some very lonely people did.

I called it out,but not on here

Her face popped up on the tv while we where staying at my mils (darling fil had just died and we where there for the funeral)

I remember saying to dear mil that she was loving this 'a bit too much'

Mil agreed but said 'don't put that on your phone' (she meant the internet)

I said to dp that it would all come crashing down when I saw the book in tesco,and got told off by some random woman who heard me

It was bloody brave of anyone saying that it was all a grift on here (or anywhere) as he was a lovely old man,who had fought in the war (so did my grandad but he died years ago so didn't get the same cooing over him) and that he'd raised so much money (yes,hannah knew what she was doing-from the start,there was more than met the eye,it certainly wasnt organic)

Then she and that husband got too greedy

My arse it was a mistake putting the name of the charity in the planning permission plans-it was deliberate

But then the line about how 'old people can come and use it'

That was desperate,tacky and thought of out of fresh air,it certainly wasn't their first thought when planning it-they wouldn't have given a thought to anyone else until it was to be ripped down

It was for their personal use only and then the threw all his bits in to make it look like 'it's all about capt Tom/charity!honest guv'

Her husband ran a business that helped get round the normal rules of planning permissions and they thought they could just 'tack a bit extra on'

His poor ex wife,dead,can't put her side forward and her personal life/marriage all there for public consumption

Middle class,posh,rich and above the law

And this was her on her absolute best behaviour. God knows what she must be like off air let alone behind closed doors.

We never see the sister - or have I missed any appearances by the sister?

I felt sorry for him and thought it was all distasteful. He wasn't treated like a man with a history, just some patronised old man who could be made a fool of, and that record did make a fool of him. He might have been a hero in earlier life, he might have been a rat but I hate seeing the elderly patronised.

@OrdinaryO888 This is what the CC looked into. It's about how the charity was run. HIM wanted £100,000 a year for running it! It's a catalogue of them trying to profit from it. Essentially it's about diversion of funds and the proper running of a charity,

Love how she acted like she was doing the public a massive favour by releasing a book on grief 🙄

Again if it's not posted!

I haven't read it and doubt I will but I will look it up, I imagine it is more than grief about her father. She said she was trying to put the record straight and who can blame her.

She looks a bit thinner, very tired and less happy/upbeat looking, that's all I could see. Hardly surprising.

Don't most of us look a bit different compared to 2020? I know I do. I also look better some days than others.

I reckon flogging a dead horse will take its toll.

That is true, so do I.

She certainly doesn't look as though she has had 'work' done. Anyway, what does it matter?

If only she had a spa to chill out in at the end of another grueling day.

Yes it will, it must all be very stressful for her. Hopefully those who really know her will not be judgemental.

It's a lesson to everyone not to jump on a bandwagon of this type (not that the opportunity will present itself to many), it can so easily spiral out of control.

However it is over now, the woman has to be able to live her life. I hope her book explains some things to those without closed minds but can't help feeling it might have been better for her to just leave it behind.