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Captain Toms daughter

418 replies

sourgrapes45 · 07/03/2025 08:22

Is currently getting her arse handed to her by Judge Rinder on Good Morning Britain...

She is not coming across well.

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mum2jakie · 07/03/2025 17:32

Bignanna · 07/03/2025 14:54

Can you show examples? She doesn’t look any different to me.

It struck me from watching the interview on tv this morning. They were showing footage from the time alongside her in the studio. Looked different to me.

Jabberwok · 07/03/2025 17:32

I was shocked about 10 days into the while whole captain Tom bit that he wasn't local to me as the BBC West were putting him up as number one item on the local news every bloody night. It's only later I thought it strange he was continually in a suit and medals. Someone knew which.buttons to press for the media.

But it's the lie and I say lie given what the publishers said about his book. He and the family said that the money would go to the nhs. And they kept it. There was no reason why, if they were telling the truth, the publishers wouldn't have said yes it was Toms money.

Plus building a spa on your own land, claiming it was offices for a charity is pretty dreadful too.

Her defence (as the BBC have clearly stated) is that the charity commission hasn't passed anything on to the police. Personally I have no faith in the charity commission as it seems that as long as you abide by their accounting rules there is no scrutiny of your actions. Two local to me examples. A large ex orphanage come 19th century borstal near me was sold for development. The charity where the money went is meant to be accessible for youth projects...there's millions sat there still. Another charity seems to support it's organisers in doing exciting/different things like walks up Ben Nevis, long distance walks. One year they raised £30k and spent £28k raising it...there is very very little on the website, socials about the activities the charity is supposed to support...just fund raising.

TwistedWonder · 07/03/2025 17:40

CrazyOldMe · 07/03/2025 17:13

TBF, I remember at the time that several Mumsnetters did call the scam out and were shouted down!

I wasn’t on MN back then but anyone saying publicly they didn’t get the hype about some old boy walking round his garden was looked at like they’d kicked a puppy. Same as if we didn’t bang saucepans every Thursday - insane times

nodishwasher · 07/03/2025 17:41

What programme and channel was that on please?

sidebirds · 07/03/2025 17:46

TwistedWonder · 07/03/2025 17:40

I wasn’t on MN back then but anyone saying publicly they didn’t get the hype about some old boy walking round his garden was looked at like they’d kicked a puppy. Same as if we didn’t bang saucepans every Thursday - insane times

😂😂😂🎯

crumblingschools · 07/03/2025 17:46

@CrazyOldMe the walking round the garden wasn’t a scam

TheignT · 07/03/2025 18:04

CurlewKate · 07/03/2025 16:08

What have people got against Rob Rinder? Seems a decent enough chap to me.....

I don't normally watch him but I heard a bit of a discussion a few days ago. They were talking about something legal and he referred to people involved like judges and barristers and had to add "I know them all" I mean who cares who he knows. He really thinks he's something special.

Ive actually found GMB quite irritating recently, Susanna seems very aggressive in her attitude, Kate is always giggling and fiddling with her hair, RR well I can't stand him. Ben was great but he's gone, I quite like Ed Balls. It could be that while I'm recovering from pneumonia I'm just irritated very easily as I also find Charlie and Naga irritating.

I suppose it might be that I just don't like news at the moment as it is so depressing. I think I'm going to ban news programmes until I'm feeling better.

Just had a rethink I quite like Ranvir and Sean.

Americano75 · 07/03/2025 18:09

No one would have given a shit bar a slight 'naaww' if he been some random old dude doing laps of his garden. Slap some medals and an army titles on and the Great British Public lose their minds.

2025willbemytime · 07/03/2025 18:15

SnoozingFox · 07/03/2025 12:48

I love Rob Rinder, he's awesome.

She should have known better than to go on and be interviewed by him, he's a top barrister used to dealing with war criminals. "How did a trip to a jacuzzi fit into the overall Captain Tom experience?" 😂

And her book is self-published. Any of us could do that.

It had to be self published as no publisher will touch her.

Lottapianos · 07/03/2025 18:15

'Slap some medals and an army titles on and the Great British Public lose their minds.'

So true! Good thing there wasn't some cute animal involved as well or people would have entirely lost their shit

EdithBond · 07/03/2025 18:16

I assume she doesn’t have a PR adviser. Absolute madness to appear on GMB to plug her book, when there’s so much controversy around her profiting from her father’s book, not to mention the Charity Commission action, spa building etc.

Also, I’m a bit confused by her father’s autobiography. Did he/the family keep the £1.5m advance and the publishing company took the rest of the profits? In other words, did any money from the book go to NHS Charities or the Captain Tom Foundation?

TizerorFizz · 07/03/2025 18:46

@x2boys I posted the estate agent pix of it. It's the least pleasant side of the house. You can have a nose inside too!

Auchencar · 07/03/2025 18:48

Lottapianos · 07/03/2025 18:15

'Slap some medals and an army titles on and the Great British Public lose their minds.'

So true! Good thing there wasn't some cute animal involved as well or people would have entirely lost their shit

😂

nodishwasher · 07/03/2025 19:17

Has she got the same advisor as Prince Andrew?

SparklyBrickViper · 07/03/2025 19:20

Fluffylizard1 · 07/03/2025 17:25

What does it say in his autobiography? I'm intrigued

“The sun shone for me once more when Pamela fell pregnant. This was not by design, as we hadn't even discussed children yet, but I was thrilled by the news.

I had long ago reconciled myself to the thought that I would never have children, which clearly wasn't an option with Billie. The idea of becoming a father at my age was an unexpected surprise, but one that I relished.

I was adamant that Pamela and I should be married before the baby arrived. With the annulment of my marriage taking far longer than I'd hoped because of Billie's resistance, I agreed to admit adultery and be the guilty party in the eyes of the law.

My lawyer told me that this would be achieved by the tried and tested practice of sending us to spend the night together in a hotel, so that our names on the register would confirm our night of mortal sin to her lawyers.

I thought we'd find a suitable and not too expensive hotel close to home, but Pamela had other ideas. 'Let's go into London and make a night of it,' she said, excitedly, and I hadn't the heart to refuse.”

He shares intimate private details of Billie, who had died before his book deal, so unable to defend herself or provide her version of the marriage.

sidebirds · 07/03/2025 19:23

SparklyBrickViper · 07/03/2025 19:20

“The sun shone for me once more when Pamela fell pregnant. This was not by design, as we hadn't even discussed children yet, but I was thrilled by the news.

I had long ago reconciled myself to the thought that I would never have children, which clearly wasn't an option with Billie. The idea of becoming a father at my age was an unexpected surprise, but one that I relished.

I was adamant that Pamela and I should be married before the baby arrived. With the annulment of my marriage taking far longer than I'd hoped because of Billie's resistance, I agreed to admit adultery and be the guilty party in the eyes of the law.

My lawyer told me that this would be achieved by the tried and tested practice of sending us to spend the night together in a hotel, so that our names on the register would confirm our night of mortal sin to her lawyers.

I thought we'd find a suitable and not too expensive hotel close to home, but Pamela had other ideas. 'Let's go into London and make a night of it,' she said, excitedly, and I hadn't the heart to refuse.”

He shares intimate private details of Billie, who had died before his book deal, so unable to defend herself or provide her version of the marriage.

Ludicrous piece of prose, clearly ghost-written. More fakery from this family of hams 😧

UniqueViewer · 07/03/2025 19:25

I don't understand why she even bothers when she knows she will get so much crap thrown at her.

SparklyBrickViper · 07/03/2025 19:28

Yes @sidebirds the whole book is similar and the way he “talks” about various conquest is vomit inducing.

(No I didn’t buy the book or read it willing, it was lying around during a 15 hour stint in A&E during my mother’s cancer battle).

Porcuporpoise · 07/03/2025 19:34

Mightymoog · 07/03/2025 10:13

If people were relating to him as they couldn't see their own family then more fool them both for falling for it and being daft enough not to see their own family

I came down with covid the day lockdown started. If I'd gone to see my dad then I might well have killed him. You may think people were daft to stay away from elderly relatives- perhaps you are forgetting how many elderly people covid killed in those early days?

Picoloangel · 07/03/2025 19:41

Lottapianos · 07/03/2025 08:55

'I have to say I didn't get the whole captain Tom thing but that's a different story.'

Me too! I know it was a seriously weird time all round but people absolutely lost their minds over him, wound up by the tabloids and their 'feel good story' bullshit. The poor man was wheeled out at every opportunity and talked into recording that completely unlistenable version of 'You'll Never Walk Alone'. Absolutely dreadful

Would love to see Rob Rinder in full barrister mode

Me three!

To be fair she got less than she deserved from RR but it was morning telly. She’s utterly shameless and deserves to be called out for it.

NebulousDogBollocking · 07/03/2025 19:43

or provide her version of the marriage.

Which I can guarantee would be very different to his.

I agreed to admit adultery and be the guilty party in the eyes of the law.

What a fucking hero.

sidebirds · 07/03/2025 19:52

SparklyBrickViper · 07/03/2025 19:28

Yes @sidebirds the whole book is similar and the way he “talks” about various conquest is vomit inducing.

(No I didn’t buy the book or read it willing, it was lying around during a 15 hour stint in A&E during my mother’s cancer battle).

Awful: so incredibly tacky. These hideous opportunists will always appear to take advantage of people's good nature. I smelled an extremely large rat 🐀 at the time. (I am sorry to hear about your mother).

Uricon2 · 07/03/2025 19:54

I am neutral about the character of Tom Moore because I don't think we'll never know whether he was involved in what turned into a grift or not. I'm of an age when as a young adult I knew many, many men and women who had been through WW2, some with very interesting and distinguished service. Many were great, some less so, like all human beings. They were around 60ish then so no novelty value. They were just allowed to be people, not national pets.

I think a lot of the whole thing was down to being one of the few survivors and the peculiar form of sentimentality that surrounds WW2. WW1 was better served by Harry Patch, a last survivor who spoke truth about how bloody awful it was without any saccharine elements.

SparklyBrickViper · 07/03/2025 20:03

So true @sidebirds.

Thank you! She is on the road to recovery.

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