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Outrageous comments from best friend:s DP

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Lucelady · 06/03/2025 18:49

I'm shocked and don't know what to say.
My friend of thirty plus years moved in with a new partner last year.
She had few options due to three divorces and very few savings.
I've met the chap once, he seemed OK but over handy for my liking. Both her adult daughters have said they don't like him. I thought it was an age and class thing (he's 27 years younger).
It turns out he is an admirer of Hitler and Trump.
I said to my friend well he won't be invited to dinner here. He apparently made the statements at a family party last week. The daughters quite rightly walked out. I'm disabled, my husband not white. My uncles POW. I can't believe she's with him. She was very lonely. Aibu to be shocked or none of my business?

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user1473878824 · 06/03/2025 23:15

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Oh look, stupid is here. That’s nice.

ZoggyStirdust · 06/03/2025 23:15

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user1473878824 · 06/03/2025 23:17

Lucelady · 06/03/2025 20:15

@livelovelough24 no probs. I just had my jaw on my chest but as I don't drink I didn't go into a rave. Others did apparently.
I work for a jew, my husband is black and I'm disabled. We would have been rounded up and gassed. He must be pretty thick if he didn't know this. My lady bits would have healed over when he said this. It was my friends War baby mother's birthday. So a real WTF moment.
I thought a bit iffy, but I am quite good at male scumbags.

Could we also maybe not say “I work for a Jew” while posting stories?

ZoggyStirdust · 06/03/2025 23:18

MissFancyDay · 06/03/2025 21:46

I'm sorry, is it a thing now to minimise what Hitler did to the Jews and other ethnicities in WW2?

Trump is a very, very bad, even evil, man, but to put him on the same level as Hitler is ignorant.

Hotels didn’t start with gas chambers. He started by “othering” people, making out they were the problem, promising Germans that they’d be looked after. It’s a slow build.

there are many parallels with what trump says and does, and 1930s Germany. Anyone who blithely says that just because trump hasn’t got to the same end point means he must not be as bad has not paid any attention to history!

Yummydindins123 · 06/03/2025 23:22

JHound · 06/03/2025 22:53

What is “woke culture”?

How are tariffs “pro business”?

Edited

US tariffs are pro business within their own country -Trump argues that tariffs on imports (especially from China) would make American-made products more competitive by increasing the cost of foreign goods.
This was intended to help domestic industries like steel, aluminum, and automotive manufacturing by reducing reliance on cheaper imports.

Regarding woke culture - well you can google that if you late trying to be a provocateur.

BananaNirvana · 06/03/2025 23:23

Yummydindins123 · 06/03/2025 21:52

Not really.
im not a complete lover of Trump but he has some very valid points that some people agree with, such as his opposition to woke culture, putting pressure onto NATO to increase their defence spending, his pro business policies. Yes he does say some controversial things but he speaks his mind which is poignant in this world. There is such a freedom of speech and to say someone is wrong for listening to opposing views is narrow minded.
I think we can all agree though that liking Hitler is not acceptable though.
OP unless you are best friends and there are other reasons you dislike the guy that are not politically related then I dont think you have a reasonable opinion to point out to your friend.

Poignant? Did you mean to use that word? Trump isn’t speaking his mind - he’s just ranting like a crazy person. He’s no idea what the fuck he’s talking about most of the time (remember the injecting bleach speech?), he’s utterly mental. Awful human being.

Yummydindins123 · 06/03/2025 23:27

BananaNirvana · 06/03/2025 23:23

Poignant? Did you mean to use that word? Trump isn’t speaking his mind - he’s just ranting like a crazy person. He’s no idea what the fuck he’s talking about most of the time (remember the injecting bleach speech?), he’s utterly mental. Awful human being.

That’s your opinion, doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong.

ItGhoul · 06/03/2025 23:27

Bleekers · 06/03/2025 19:39

You need to be ready when he expresses politics, religion opinions … whether you agree or disagree.
Chsnge the subject - have it the topic ready. For example: I read that they are making Woolly Mammoth mice and are going to re-create mammoths …
Something completely inane
Ive noticed the candy bars have dhrunk
Buy 3 get one free - there’s never 3 left!
etc
etc

Just shut him down. If he pushes back - that’s right, we don’t want to talk politics/ opinions.

Or here’s another idea: just don’t hang out with Nazis. Being pro-Hitler doesn’t stop being a problem just because you’re chatting about the weather rather than the Holocaust, you know.

OP, if any of my friends willingly shacked up with a literal fascist, as if that was just a harmless difference of opinion rather than a dangerous ideology of hatred and genocide, I would probably never speak to them again.

BlueBatsAndOranges · 06/03/2025 23:34
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Urgh. I come back to the thread and the Trump/Hitler talk has taken over again.

More dogs <clicks fingers>

ClairDeLaLune · 06/03/2025 23:35

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Oh hi Vladimir. Do you really think that or are you just trying to be controversial. If the former than I commiserate you for your lack of brain cells, empathy and human decency.

BlueBatsAndOranges · 06/03/2025 23:35
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NancyBellaDonna · 06/03/2025 23:38
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LegoTherapy · 06/03/2025 23:39

This thread has got it all:

Driving Dogs!
Dons
Zelensky
The Prince of Wales/postman on Wednesday
Prisoners of War
Driving Cats
Hitler
Trump
Inheritance
Sex
Desperate woman
Dodgy friend
Even dodgier bloke
Worried daughters
A bird on roller skates

What more could we ask for on a Thursday evening?

NancyBellaDonna · 06/03/2025 23:43
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RockyRogue1001 · 06/03/2025 23:48
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@LegoTherapy, you forgot Sharon from eastenders

AthWat · 06/03/2025 23:49

BlueBatsAndOranges · 06/03/2025 21:16

What? No amount of you slagging me off saying I would’ve gone along with Hitler will make you convince me Trump is anywhere near as evil as him. He gassed millions of Jews ffs and you are insulting their memory by saying fucking Trump is as bad as him. Now show me more dogs…

Hitler wasn't as bad as Hitler either, in 1934. It was clear to some people where he was heading though. Not to everyone. Lots of people wouldn't listen to the people who could see worse things coming.

CJsGoldfish · 06/03/2025 23:51

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 06/03/2025 19:49

If it were just Trump then YABU but Hitler? YANBU
Even if he’s not to your taste, Trump and Hitler are in different leagues. I think it’s actually insulting to all those murdered in WW2 to compare Trump to Hitler. It trivialises what happened to them - Hitler was pure evil

No, they are actually very similar in far too many ways. There are quite a few historians who have spoken about the similar ways in which each came to power, one particularly talking about them as political performers, strong on extremist language but vague on policies.
The rhetorical strategies of both are very alike as is the whole PR aspect
Actually, the rhetoric of both are strikingly similar in their racism and dehuminisation and Trump has absolutely adopted tactics of Hitler, validating his supporters fears and blaming all of society's ills on a perceived 'group'

Similarly, Trump is now moving to control the media, handpicking who gets to ask questions in briefings and press conferences. And who even attends.

Trumps campaign was based partly on the demonisation of a whole group of people and their affect on ruining the good ol USA. He is talking about 'relocating' people from their homes en mass in a country that isn't even his. He wants to annexe other countries in any way possible. The rounding up of those he despises and sending them to camps to live in conditions that are unimaginable.
Lets not forget that he said that if he lost, it would be partly the fault of the Jews. He also failed to mention the word Jew in an earlier Holocaust remembrence speech. He did mention a 'unified reich' another time though

It is absolutely right to remember the pure evil of Hitler but it is wrong to forget that he started much slower to play on peoples fears and anger about economical and social issues. And there are far far too many similarities to pretend there isn't just to justify the support of the Orange Hitler 🤷‍♀️

Hitler and Trump are nothing alike. It would have been more believable if you had said he liked Zelensky and Hitler
See above 🙄

Bigcat25 · 07/03/2025 00:43

Lucelady · 06/03/2025 19:56

Two of my uncles were released from POW camps weighing six and a half stone. Neither could later have children..
Neither held it against the German people. My friend knows this. Her family didn't serve.
I don't want to socialise with him. I think I'll just use a broken record regarding him and hope he keeps out of my orbit.

I'm so sorry op. It's horrific he would have that viewpoint after what your family has been through. It's possible his views weren't as apparent earlier on, not that it makes much difference and she could obviously leave him.

Stirabout · 07/03/2025 03:16

CunningLinguist1 · 06/03/2025 20:47

You sound very unwell. He’s a traitor, felon & rapist.

It’s ok cunning one it’s just a Horrible Virus

Stirabout · 07/03/2025 03:20

LegoTherapy · 06/03/2025 23:39

This thread has got it all:

Driving Dogs!
Dons
Zelensky
The Prince of Wales/postman on Wednesday
Prisoners of War
Driving Cats
Hitler
Trump
Inheritance
Sex
Desperate woman
Dodgy friend
Even dodgier bloke
Worried daughters
A bird on roller skates

What more could we ask for on a Thursday evening?

week GIF

Elephant sliding down a mud bank…we haven’t had that !

oo sorry no…I think it’s trump…downhill all the way now

Stirabout · 07/03/2025 03:26
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Well why not
In for a penny as they say

Marchitectmummy · 07/03/2025 05:16

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Honestly I don't understand why people need to make wild comparisons. Trump isn't like Hitler anymore than anyone else is.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:32

CJsGoldfish · 06/03/2025 23:51

No, they are actually very similar in far too many ways. There are quite a few historians who have spoken about the similar ways in which each came to power, one particularly talking about them as political performers, strong on extremist language but vague on policies.
The rhetorical strategies of both are very alike as is the whole PR aspect
Actually, the rhetoric of both are strikingly similar in their racism and dehuminisation and Trump has absolutely adopted tactics of Hitler, validating his supporters fears and blaming all of society's ills on a perceived 'group'

Similarly, Trump is now moving to control the media, handpicking who gets to ask questions in briefings and press conferences. And who even attends.

Trumps campaign was based partly on the demonisation of a whole group of people and their affect on ruining the good ol USA. He is talking about 'relocating' people from their homes en mass in a country that isn't even his. He wants to annexe other countries in any way possible. The rounding up of those he despises and sending them to camps to live in conditions that are unimaginable.
Lets not forget that he said that if he lost, it would be partly the fault of the Jews. He also failed to mention the word Jew in an earlier Holocaust remembrence speech. He did mention a 'unified reich' another time though

It is absolutely right to remember the pure evil of Hitler but it is wrong to forget that he started much slower to play on peoples fears and anger about economical and social issues. And there are far far too many similarities to pretend there isn't just to justify the support of the Orange Hitler 🤷‍♀️

Hitler and Trump are nothing alike. It would have been more believable if you had said he liked Zelensky and Hitler
See above 🙄

But Trump is sending people back to their own countries who entered illegally. Sending them home, for breaking laws that all countries have about illegal immigration. Not sending them to death camps because of their religion! I see what you mean about some of the similarities in coming to power, but I still think the Trump/Hiter comparisons are very off-colour and inaccurate considering what Hitler did. I agree with a PP about the comparison being insulting to Holocaust victims.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:42

Errors · 06/03/2025 20:51

Look at this distinguished gentleman

Wow! What kind of dog is that?

Lucelady · 07/03/2025 07:01

Thank you all. I love dogs.
The fascist has two and that's usually a good indicator of a reasonable man.

Hopefully as my friend has told me about his views she's making plans to leave. I won't entertain him and luckily I don't have that many occasions to avoid him.

I think if you've moved in with someone and you have limited choices it's hard to say I've made a mistake. I don't know what that feels like having been married for 30+ years.

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