To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

[FancyRedRobin]

The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

or at a guess we all could keep fighting each other and hope along the way someone does not launch a nuke

You think a massive world order would mean peace. Let me point you to…

Largest Separatist Movements (by Population Affected)

Over 50 Million People

1. Kashmir (India/Pakistan/China) – Several separatist movements, including those seeking independence or union with Pakistan.
2. Xinjiang (East Turkestan) (China) – Uighur separatist movement.
3. Tibet (China) – Tibetan independence movement.

10–50 Million People

1. Catalonia (Spain) – Strong autonomy movement with significant separatist support.
2. Scotland (United Kingdom) – Scottish independence movement.
3. Punjab (Khalistan) (India) – Sikh nationalist movement.
4. Quebec (Canada) – Quebec sovereignty movement.
5. Aceh (Indonesia) – Historically active, though less prominent today.

5–10 Million People

1. Kurds (Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria) – Kurdish nationalist movements, including aspirations for an independent Kurdistan.

10. Balochistan (Pakistan/Iran/Afghanistan) – Baloch nationalist movements in multiple countries. 11. West Papua (Indonesia) – Movement for Papuan independence from Indonesia. 12. Rohingya (Myanmar) – Some Rohingya groups advocate for independence or autonomy. 13. Hong Kong (China) – Some pro-independence sentiment, though heavily suppressed.

1–5 Million People
14. Somaliland (Somalia) – De facto independent since 1991 but not internationally recognized.
15. Flanders (Belgium) – Flemish independence movement.
16. Donetsk & Luhansk (Ukraine) – Russian-backed separatist regions.
17. Abkhazia & South Ossetia (Georgia) – Russian-backed separatist regions.
18. Transnistria (Moldova) – Russian-backed separatist region.
19. Bougainville (Papua New Guinea) – A referendum supported independence, but implementation is pending.

Smaller Movements (Under 1 Million People)
20. Basque Country (Spain/France) – Historically active, now largely political.
21. Corsica (France) – Autonomy and separatist movements.
22. Gagauzia (Moldova) – Some autonomy, minor separatist sentiment.
23. Faroe Islands (Denmark) – Some pro-independence sentiment.
24. New Caledonia (France) – Independence referendums held, but still under France.

Do you not understand that separatist movements exist in countries. Never mind how they would exist in a global government.

I think you're failing to consider the impact of the Unity Device we'll be purchasing from Star System C.

Sorry @HangryLilacGoosegood point.

Sounds like you have learned so little history you don’t know about civil wars.
I would be interested to know which national education system you were educated in?

@MrsTerryPratchett is those numbers from an actual website or chatgpt ?

besides if the one world govt is an impossible idea then why do we already have the European union ? as thats just a mini world govt

No it’s not.
There’s a lot of world outside the EU.

You really think the EU is a mini world government?

The european union does have characteristics that resemble it

By definition, any union will have characteristics that resemble a bigger union, as well as crucial differences as a result of the size difference.
But if you look at the EU you will see pros and cons, and some of the cons (such as the tendency towards bureaucratisation, the domination by a few more powerful members) would be greatly intensified by scaling up to world scale.
Throughout human history the issue of what level to organise and govern at has been contested, often violently, and the notion that you could simply end that by world government is enormously naive. There would be winners and losers, and the losers would resist. We have seen that throughout history, and we have seen federations break up as well as new ones form.

You’re trying to extrapolate ‘characteristics that resemble it’ to a whole world government?

yes make the world whole

World domination Maybe stick to games.

That’s a whole other world!!!

indeed

The most effective strategy for one world govt is gradual integration, where nations are incentivized rather than coerced, and the global system evolves organically

It will never happen - countries have different cultures, values, constitutions and political structures. We can see why it wouldn’t happen if what the US are trying to us in Canada and also in Greenland. We don’t want to have any part of the US in our country and the PM’s in both Canada and Greenland have made that clear. Unfortunately the US is hard of hearing and has an idiot as President.

i agree and the answer is : the transition should focus on shared human values while respecting diversity.

I don’t want to be a part of anything involving the US - we don’t have any shared values with them. We’re avoiding buying their products or going over the border.

and yet the world needs America's military as and when, so if Russia invaded would you say no, not using American assistance ?

principles are all dandy, until there is omg moments

Canada only threat is from the US.

at the moment but if or when that changes then what

Do you think Canada, Greenland and Panama should just become US states Verdansk?

Unsure what your angle is here (other than pure fantasy)

why Panama ?