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to tell ex that if parents evening is that important, he can sodding well go?

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PyongyangKipperbang · 04/03/2025 22:51

Youngest of six in senior school. Parents evening once a term and every term it is the same. She is top set and doing very well, not bragging, just a fact. I spend a couple of hours sitting waiting and then probably half an hour total being told that she is doing very well and then getting the sales pitch for her to choose their subject for GCSE. Talked to her earlier about the next one and asked her if she would mind if we didnt go, she said she thought it was a waste of time. Her father messaged me tonight asking if I had made the appointments as he gets the email reminders. I said no as I wasnt going and asked if he had made his own appointments. He went MAD. I am a bad mother, I dont care about her, I should go blah blah. I said that I had been to all the other appointments and it hadnt really told me anything I didnt know but he was welcome to go himself. Again, it was my job, I am a shit mother who doesnt care about her.

So that was when I lost my shit and said "Well considerning you have never been to a single one of her parents evenings, perhaps this is the time you should go if you think it matters so much". Radio Silence.

I dont feel that it will make any difference, DD agrees.

So, if it matters to him so much, he can go right?

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 09/03/2025 00:12

Oh hello, guess who is back after a couple of bottles of who the hell knows what!

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 09/03/2025 00:14

llizzie · 08/03/2025 23:42

Why did you think fit to respond to this poster? Did you arrange to take up issues on behalf of the OP?

Why did you not bugger off as requested?

OP posts:
llizzie · 09/03/2025 00:20

PyongyangKipperbang · 09/03/2025 00:14

Why did you not bugger off as requested?

Because I have a right to free speech, as have you.

SouthernFashionista · 09/03/2025 00:25

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AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 00:43

llizzie · 07/03/2025 18:42

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · Today 10:02

I left something out of my reply to you.

''If he thought it was important he should go himself''. Could that be taken as a reminder that he had never taken an interest in any of his children? This it hurtful. How would anyone reply to that?

I suggested she had nothing to do with him, and am castigated for that. Why?

I am far from misogynist, believe me.

Why would any woman respond to a message sent by a nasty violent man and not ignore it? Worse, respond to it and accuse him? It is the last thing I would do. I never contacted my X, knowing what I would get if I did.

''If he thought it was important he should go himself''. Could that be taken as a reminder that he had never taken an interest in any of his children? This it hurtful. How would anyone reply to that?

If he took that as meaning that he had never taken an interest in his only child, tough - if the truth hurt him, it was no-one's fault but his own. No-one with half a brain would reply by saying OP was a bad mother for refusing to go this time, not least because they would have been able to work out that it was just inviting a comparison with their own failure to go ever.

If this little exchange makes him think a bit before making utterly stupid accusations against OP, I'd say that was a definite win. I don't understand why you don't see that.

AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 00:54

llizzie · 08/03/2025 00:38

I misread the 'WOULDN'T for couldn't.

I see now that I was too kind. You refused to attend the child's meet teacher evening because you didn't think it was worth going, as you were only going to be told what you knew already, that your DD was doing well.

I can see why that would upset her father. He was wrong to use bad language and call you a bad mother. He should have known that would upset you, but why would you tell him you had no intention of going because it wasn't worth it, then bawled him out because he wasn't going either.

It is either worth it or it isn't. I am sorry if you don't like my posts. I have little to no experience of posts with so many expletives in them. I have managed without them so far. I hope you only write them down and don't allow your six children to use them. They may have to live in a different world where such language is frowned on.

I wish you well on your journey through life. I hope you are able to find a new partner who will treat you better than the first two.

I hope you have a chance to read this before you bin it.

Why would it upset her father if he has never bothered to go himself? Plus, if he takes a genuine interest in his child, he will know that OP sees the HOY once a fortnight and therefore it's absolutely correct that she has all the relevant information already.

OP didn't "bawl him out because he wasn't going either". She didn't bawl at all, given that this was all in writing. She merely pointed out the logical corollary to his criticism of her.

Why does OP need a new partner? Does it occur to you she may be perfectly happy without a man to validate her?

You really do have major problems with your reading comprehension.

AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 00:58

llizzie · 08/03/2025 01:22

I am sorry I made a typing error. It was ND not MD. I really must get a new keyboard. I would have done before, but when someone else went to use it they didn't know where the letters were so I kept it for security.

I have a lot of sympathy and understanding for disabled children. I was chairman of the governors of more than one special school.

You were chair of governors at special schools but didn't know what "ND" meant?

That's quite some achievement. Didn't you read anything about learning difficulties?

AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 01:01

ThinkingThroughOptions · 08/03/2025 07:20

When you have 6 kids they learn to go without and not complain.

I don't see how you can ever fully know she is not holding up a mirror to you, reflecting YOUR opinion because she has learned to go without and not complain.

She will already be a forgotten child because that's what happens with a big family. You can't help it.

I guarantee you, whether either of you admit it, there will be a little part of her feeling that little doubt of neither parent could be bothered. She probably hates it you've both argued over it, even if ex is in the wrong.

Regardless, I would go, just to carve the time to openly celebrate her and take her for a treat on the way home. She might brush it off at the time (still reflecting YOUR opinion) but she won't be able to stop herself also carrying it with her as a positive.

Did you not notice that OP is going to meetings at the school about this supposedly forgotten child once a fortnight? She'd have to be going some to feel forgotten in those circumstances.

AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 01:11

llizzie · 08/03/2025 17:59

The role of a governing body is the education of the child, not the diseases they are suffering from. It was the job of the governing body to ensure that what the children needed was supplied. There was no diagnosis of ND before the 1990s, and ADHD was coined in 2000, the 21st century.

“Neurodivergent” isn't a medical term, condition or diagnosis. People who are neurodivergent have differences in the way their brain works. This is still true even for people with the same medical diagnosis. That means people with very different signs and symptoms can still have the same diagnosis.

It was described in the late 1990s

ADHD has only been a recognised diagnosis since 2000.

I am not embarrassed or hurt by your very rude post on my character. It may well be known to all on here. It is not to me. I suspect I am not alone.

And with just one word you reveal you know nothing about special needs. Very, very few children with SEN have them because of "diseases". Governors in a special school cannot do their job properly without at least some knowledge of the areas of learning difficulty which their school is working with.

AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 01:23

llizzie · 08/03/2025 23:23

Parents would be horrified if they thought their children were being discussed in meetings of Governors. The children are placed in a school according to their needs, and the Governors meet to discuss the school, not the pupils.

The School Governors only discuss the school needs and the supply of them. They also interview and appoint Head Teachers with advice.

The placement of children in schools is for the local authority who employ people to do that. Anything to do with the child is confidential.

This is just so ridiculous. Governors of special schools need to know about the difficulties for which the school caters because it will dictate the way the school is organised and indeed how it is built. For example, do the children need small classes or large ones; what sort of pupil:teacher ratio do they need; do they need provision for small group and 1:1 work; do they need sensory rooms, therapy rooms, hydrotherapy pools etc; do they need acoustic panelling and sound dampening in the classrooms; do they need hearing loops, or guides for poor sight; do they need wider corridors and larger doorways to accommodate wheelchairs; do they need hoists; do they need help with toileting and incontinence; do they need special diets. You don't have to have any individual child's personal details to equip yourself with basic information like this.

llizzie · 09/03/2025 02:07

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thepariscrimefiles · 09/03/2025 07:10

llizzie · 08/03/2025 23:42

Why did you think fit to respond to this poster? Did you arrange to take up issues on behalf of the OP?

What's the matter with you? Posters can respond directly to the OP and to other posters. They can respond on behalf of the OP if they wish. It isn't against posting guidelines. Why do you think that you have the authority to police this thread when the OP has asked you many times to leave as your contributions are the opposite of helpful and yet here you are, still posting uninformed, judgemental rubbish?

Thirteenblackcat · 09/03/2025 07:31

llizzie · 08/03/2025 23:42

Why did you think fit to respond to this poster? Did you arrange to take up issues on behalf of the OP?

Why are you picking on this poster? Aren’t we all entitled to free speech? Or do you only agree with it when it’s you doing the talking?

im sure you have been asked this many times in your life but what on earth is wrong with you? You seem to have issues

Do you struggle basic comprehension in your governing role too? I really hope no children in schools you govern haven’t suffered from any decisions of your very clear poor judgement

thepariscrimefiles · 09/03/2025 07:40

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In yet another complete derail of OP's thread, you display your complete ignorance of the education of children with SEN, and horrifically refer to them as 'problem children'.

You refer to other posters showing a 'great lack of tolerance and understanding' when you have epitomised intolerance and lack of understanding throughout this thread.

As for 'idiots who think they know better', if the cap fits, please wear it. You have just learned the meaning of ND today, yet you have taken it upon yourself to lecture the mothers of ND children in this post and to give them a list of ridiculous questions that you think they should be asking about their own children.

Tenthousandspoonsitslike · 09/03/2025 07:49

llizzie · 08/03/2025 23:30

You know what? The OP complained that 'all the posters have not answered her question, which was not about the meet teacher, but the row she had with her X over going, and what he said to her.

I commented on that, and she didn't like that either. I suggested if she had not responded to him, but ended the message, he would have been unable to say anything bad to her.

I suppose you would say the night was filled with sunshine if I said it was dark.

Ermmm no, do you have memory problems. The OP complained that YOU weren’t answering her question.

It’s really useful that when you advance search on here you can see everything a poster has said. The very first few of your posts on this thread you were sanctimoniously going on about how both parents should attend, and nothing about OPs AIBU.

You then made stupid suggestions and then started victim blaming.

you then kept on calling it an open day or teacher meet,

Edited to add: let’s not forget the fact you have no idea what ND stands for despite being a governor for what you say are special schools

Please show me where you have sensitively considered OPs AIBU?

spoiler alert you haven’t.

Gotcha moment right there

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 07:54

Yes of course he's being an arse.

But imo you just go. It's just one of those things you do. Because there's always tja slightest chance that despite what dd says, she would actually like you to take an interest and go. To sit and hear the teachers say how well she's doing - to engage with the activity and place where she spends the majority of her time when not at home.

Just do it.

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 07:55

@PyongyangKipperbang "have six kids and come back and say that again"??
Really?
It's not her fault you saw fit to have six kids ffs.

Thirteenblackcat · 09/03/2025 07:56

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 07:54

Yes of course he's being an arse.

But imo you just go. It's just one of those things you do. Because there's always tja slightest chance that despite what dd says, she would actually like you to take an interest and go. To sit and hear the teachers say how well she's doing - to engage with the activity and place where she spends the majority of her time when not at home.

Just do it.

OP has already said she has regular (fortnightly I think) contact with her child’s teachers.

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 07:57

No I did see that but I still think you just go, it's just what you do.

Hoplolly · 09/03/2025 07:59

OP has already said she has regular (fortnightly I think) contact with her child’s teachers.

Why is that needed if the child is such a marvel that parents evening is unnecessary?

This whole thread is becasue OP can't be bothered and has her arse in her hands about her ex.

Thirteenblackcat · 09/03/2025 08:11

Hoplolly · 09/03/2025 07:59

OP has already said she has regular (fortnightly I think) contact with her child’s teachers.

Why is that needed if the child is such a marvel that parents evening is unnecessary?

This whole thread is becasue OP can't be bothered and has her arse in her hands about her ex.

Not sure if you meant to quote me but I’m following the thread and I agree. I was responding to someone saying just go

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/03/2025 08:15

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 07:57

No I did see that but I still think you just go, it's just what you do.

Because there's always tja slightest chance that despite what dd says, she would actually like you to take an interest and go.

Several posters said this upthread. OP went back and had another talk with DD. She definitely doesn’t want to go. OP is in regular contact with the head of year. DD has already made her GCSE choices. Two hours sitting about waiting to engage with teachers for about two minutes at a time isn’t going to tell OP anything she doesn’t already know.

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 08:17

Everyone's different but I think you don't even suggest to your child whether you should sack it off and give them the choice. You just do it; and that it makes quite an important statement. It shouldn't even be a question. Dd doesn't have to come if it would cause her stress or anxiety.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/03/2025 08:33

Hoplolly · 09/03/2025 07:59

OP has already said she has regular (fortnightly I think) contact with her child’s teachers.

Why is that needed if the child is such a marvel that parents evening is unnecessary?

This whole thread is becasue OP can't be bothered and has her arse in her hands about her ex.

If you had read the whole thread you would know that wasn’t true. If you are having to ask why OP is in fortnightly contact with the head of year, then you clearly missed the fact that DD is ND - OP advocated for, and successfully had her placed in a support program to help her confidence. Hence the one to one updates with the head of year. Does that say ‘can’t be bothered’ to you ?

DD is also gifted and despite having made her GCSE choices and being clear about what she wants, some teachers are putting pressure on for her to study their subjects. Possibly OP doesn’t want her to be exposed to that pressure, and if she’s up to date on her progress and supports her GCSE choices, then they don’t need the inevitable hassle at the parents’ evening.

And what do you mean OP has her arse in her hands about her ex ? Do you mean her physically and verbally abusive ex, who despite trying to strangle her, still has access and parental rights regarding his DD ? No one here supports men like that and OP hasn’t been handed her arse here - quite the opposite in fact..

Thirteenblackcat · 09/03/2025 08:35

User5274959 · 09/03/2025 07:57

No I did see that but I still think you just go, it's just what you do.

You do understand that just because something works well for you doesn’t mean it’s applicable to all don’t you? Maybe you don’t