Is war likely?

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In the UK in the next few years given world events?

What do people think will happen?

My personal view is that it is likely though of course not inevitable - but there is a path now for Europe to step up - but with the mad orange man who knows what will happen.

By breaking up NATO?

We seem to be in a pre war state but what do i know

Your understanding is woeful, and sadly out of date.

We do not have an independent nuclear deterrent as it's reliant on the US to trigger it - and they are no longer an ally. France has one, but not us.

Article 5 which is the foundation on which NATO has succeeded thus far is no longer solid thanks to POTUS and his remarks, plus his history of throwing partners under the bus (see Afghan government of 20 years, and the 1994 Ukrainian Treaty agreed by US and UK).

Ridiculous take. All it means is that they could try to take over whoever they want, and you think European countries would just surrender to the Russians without a fight? Have you seen what Russia does to people from areas they capture?

The Russians have the pee-pee tape of Trump, this will prevent the US from trying to interfere too much in their antics. That’s why Trump is dismantling any opposition in the US. His plan is they will stand by while Russia does what it likes and it’s up to Europe to defend itself.

I think his knowledge trumps all of ours (no pun intended).

Yes! It's kicking off on the 21st June 2026. You heard it here first OP.

I was a bit younger but I remember it clearly too and I now follow the same stance as you.

A civil war - without a doubt. I predicted this 10 years ago.
WW3 - yes in some form, possibly small missiles but most likely cyber strikes affecting, air, health, banking, utilities etc.

No..despite how Starmer would like it. Good for the economy. Trump wants peace

Yawn

Do you think Putin does?

What about China? Iran? North Korea?

Well there has been lots of talk about trump and zelensky and starmer in the mix but we don't really know what putin wants.
Apparently he's running on a war eccomony and may not want to stop a little rumbling in Ukraine that he knows he can't win, because it's making money.
Stopping it or taking on a larger war would finish him off.
The mineral deal is a sly way of getting USA citizens into Ukraine. If you were putin would you want to risk any conflict.
Putin maybe at a point where he doesn't care?

China..no. othef two ..Well who knows

How?

Trump is looking more and more like a Russian plant. The only way he wants to stop the bloody war is by giving Putin what he wants. How is that good for Ukraine or anyone remotely near Russia?

You haven't noticed that China is gearing up to invade Taiwan?

Yes, but at least being right in the middle we will go quickly

Of course there won't be WW3. No one can afford it, and there's the worlds so hung up human rights where people would simply refuse to fight. So no, of course there won't be.

Are you sure ? And which one ?

There’s a lot of willy waving at the moment, but hopefully things will settle down quickly. Trump is known for changing his mind on a whim so you never know what the next day will bring.

FFS

Please can MNHQ arrange a war board or something? These threads are getting out of hand now

Agreed. My friend is so worried about terrorism that she won’t go to London (her sister lives there) and wouldn’t come with me to a concert in Manchester. She asked why am I so ok with it.

Because I’m just living my life, I was evacuated from my home because of a bomb scare last year. Thankfully it was a false alarm but it just goes to show that I could have sat inside my house worrying about the very thing that could have killed me by being there.

Life is too short. I’m not worrying about WW3.

Its just a discussion. If you dont like the threads just dont read them? Based on the responses people want to talk about this.

There were more wars under Biden than Trump so no. As much as people seem to be frothing for it.

For the last 5 years.