Is war likely?

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In the UK in the next few years given world events?

What do people think will happen?

My personal view is that it is likely though of course not inevitable - but there is a path now for Europe to step up - but with the mad orange man who knows what will happen.

War is like an asteroid hitting the earth. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it so no point in worrying over it

Right – it seems because it’s Donald Trump and he’s regarded as an idiot (and the suggestions absurd) it’s not being taken too seriously.

He has literally stated his intention to invade these countries.

Greenland for one has valuable resources.

I think he’s entirely serious.

I am actively considering moving. So there’s that!

Oh please. We can’t even be fucked protesting against our failing infrastructure, let alone taking up arms. Only the left reliably communes in huge numbers and we believe in democracy.

The far right might be dreaming of a race war (that they wouldn’t win) but it’s not going to happen.

Where to ?

I don’t think fake tan is a race, mate.

I’ve been looking at options outside of Europe. No imminent plans to go, but I’m exploring what would be possible if I didn’t like the direction things were heading.

I’ve got Syrian friends I met when we were students in Europe over a decade ago (doctors, other professionals). One of them was always inviting me to visit Aleppo with them, it was just a normal place with a very nice standard of living. You don’t know what’s round the corner.

Er no, the US are trying to stop THEMSELVES spending aid money to stop Putin waging war in Europe, they actually don't give a shit about war in Europe as long as they aren't directly involved , but will happily sell arms to Europe.

Fake tans are a race now? For fucks sake.....

Moving where? If ww3 starts or an asteroid hits the earth no where will be safe

Possibly, but if there is trouble in Europe then other places will be safer.

There are plenty of wars going on in the world right now that don’t involve nuclear weapons.

World War means world war nowhere would be safe. I think your worrying unnecessarily. To quit your job and leave your friends and family over something that will most likely not happen is extreme. Maybe a chat with your gp would be a good idea

China has also been pushing misinformation and meddling in our elections from bot farms. Not just Russia.

not necessarily likely but getting likelier.

A big part of the reason we've avoided it thus far is Russia knew America had Europe's back. Not any more.

If Putin gets what he wants in Ukraine and thinks we I dont believe for a second he will just stop there.And when he invades Lithuania or Poland all bets are off.

Out of interest, are you male or female?

Why?

War has always been likely at any stage of human history. Just pick up a random number between -4000 and 2025 and I can almost guarantee that there were a few wars taking place somewhere in the world.

The nature of the next war is what is really a mystery. The threat of nuclear annihilation is there so war will come in very bizarre and not traditional form. It will be not so much by employing weaponry but economic and social aggression with a good dose of cyber attacks and terrorism galore.

Try Russia. It's up and coming.

Yes. At some point Europe will need to stop Russia. The sooner we do this in Ukraine where the Russian army is bogged down, the better. If Ukraine falls, we lose a massive army, and open the door to Moldova and Romania being invaded too.

Turkey should be brought into the alliance too. No time like the present.

This.

No point worrying too much about "traditional" boots on the ground warfare or invasion, because the concept of war has changed.

The film "Leave the World Behind", and the series "Zero Day" are of course heavily fictionalised, but do give glimpses into what might constitute war in countries where all out destruction is economically undesirable, but where infrastructure is vulnerable due to dependence on technology. Another series that is eye opening is "The Capture".

Economic warfare is happening all the time, and cyber attack is going on in the background all the time.

Whenever there's a significant outage that affects a service, eg. When Three went down fir over 12 hours, we're told it's just a technical glitch, yet it could be something more sinister, but we'll never know because we have to be kept calm and carry on.

Not alot we plebs can do about it except keep half an eye on things, and do some now deemed sensible mild prepping. And having three days of supplies etc has been deemed officially sensible in recent times by several European governments, and our own.

My mantra is very much hope for the best, but be somewhat prepared for the worst.

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I was wondering, given the confidence of your assertion

I'm not sure there's much point prepping beyond just a fairly tame 'water & power off for several days' situation. If anything more extreme than that happened then armed gangs would very quickly take control of the cities, with raiding parties going out in vehicles to loot systematically from houses after all the shops and public buildings had been looted. There would also be individuals in every locality who are desperate and very comfortable with violence and weapons. So people who were well prepped would quickly be robbed/killed. Most Brits are naturally peaceful and unused to violence and wouldn't be able to withstand the sheer level of brutality of the gangs. Its possible the police and army could suppress gangs and riots in the cities but I have my doubts, they'd certainly be outnumbered in London where many hundreds of thousands are from countries and backgrounds where survival via violence is normalised.

Yes he is. But the OP just said war for the UK

Maybe they should have thought of that