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To think that being told to make my work emails more “flowery” is ridiculous?

420 replies

BoldBrickDreamer · 03/03/2025 22:21

I was recently given feedback that my work emails should be more “flowery” and “softer.” Apparently, I come across as too direct, even though I’m always polite and professional.

I don’t see the issue - why should I have to add unnecessary fluff just to get my point across? Surely being clear and to the point is more efficient?

AIBU to think this is just another way of policing how people (especially women) communicate in the workplace? Or is there actually value in making emails sound a bit more “gentle?”

OP posts:
Rainingalldayonmyhead · 04/03/2025 17:32

BoldBrickDreamer · 04/03/2025 01:01

I’m definitely considering asking for more specifics to understand how I can improve, if that’s what they want. I’d rather just be clear and efficient, but I get it, it’s worth checking.

As for the feedback, it’s from a woman, but I’m not sure if male colleagues get the same type of feedback. I’ll keep an eye on their emails to see if there’s any noticeable difference. If it turns out to be the case, I might just bring it up casually like you suggested.

100% they do and have. Stop making this a sexist thing. Cold is cold.

Katrinawaves · 04/03/2025 17:32

RogersOrganismicProcess · 04/03/2025 17:26

There is a magic balance to strike between warmth and competency. Get it right and you come off as charismatic, trustworthy, dependable, knowledgeable and approachable.

Too much of the warmth without the competency and you come off as lovely but less knowledgeable/skilled/dependable.

Too much of the competency without the warmth and you come off as intelligent and skilled but cold, unapproachable and judgmental.

Both incompetent and cold is a recipe for disaster!

If you are being asked to be more ‘flowery’ you are in essence being asked to dial
up the warmth. It may be that your boss is privy to feedback, or an overarching perspective on the team, that you are not privy to.

Do you have a fear about giving it a go?

This nails it!

Though at least the competent but chilly (bordering on uncivil) types leave the promotion pathway clear for those of us who can manage to be both competent and build relationships!

Diningtableornot · 04/03/2025 18:10

Seems that some organisations are looking for a house style for emails now

BuildbyNumbere · 04/03/2025 18:25

You can be polite and professional but maybe the complete directness is coming across as rude. I would ask for examples and maybe speak to colleagues for feedback, maybe your manager has received complaints.

Annettecurtaintwitcher · 04/03/2025 18:29

Just stick a couple of passive aggressive smileys in and be done with it.

Letty186 · 04/03/2025 18:29

I get where you’re coming from, I prefer a much more direct but polite email, but it seems my colleagues don’t. We’ve had some training recently by resurgo and I’ve found my colleagues prefer the ‘hope you’re well / did you have a good weekend / how’s your dog” kind of email, so often I’ll draft and go back and add pleasantries if I’m talking to those specific people. I draw the line at x’s though! I don’t love them, I don’t socialise with them (we all work remotely and hours apart) but I do respect them. Shame they don’t do the same when communicating with me 😜

Maddy70 · 04/03/2025 18:42

If it's too direct it can affect staff morale

SpunkyKoala · 04/03/2025 18:48

I’ve been told this too so I changed my bullet points to teeny tiny flowers

singletonatlarge · 04/03/2025 19:04

Really interesting discussion. I think it depends a lot on the sector. I work in academia and neither the short and to the point emails on this thread nor the delightful marshmallow email would hit the mark. There is an expectation that emails will give a little flavour of your personality/add to the relationship in some way. I think this is because we do so much business by email, much more than we do face-to-face.

BlossomOfOrange · 04/03/2025 19:08

Ddakji · 04/03/2025 10:10

No, I’m not and I did say your first was a little abrupt.
I wouldn’t work better or worse for either of those styles, but I would prefer direct and clear over waffle any day of the week. Too much waffle and it goes to the bottom of my to-do list (but will always be done when needed).

Anyway, the poll results clearly show a preference so maybe line managers should take note.

The poll is not very useful - ‘flowery’ is not commonly understood.

PicaK · 04/03/2025 19:09

I am autistic. I write brief and to the point emails.
Then I go back to the top and add in the fluff/flowery bit "Hope you had a good weekend!" or "Was event x good?" showing I view them as human and that I care for their welfare and value our working relationship. I know I don't need this but they do.
I check I've put "please" .
Then I bold the main point to my email just to keep myself sane!
You have to accept that most people are rubbish at doing concise emails or sticking to the 1 subject per email rule etc etc.

Thepeopleversuswork · 04/03/2025 19:15

What is interesting to me is that there is an inverse correlation between “floweriness” and seniority in email etiquette.

People in more junior positions and support roles are encouraged to put a premium on this exaggerated sense of “kindness” and politeness while senior leaders tend to write much more efficiently.

I worked briefly for the CEO of a public company with a billion dollar plus market capitalization who routinely responded to emails with a single word.

And I agree that there is something gendered about it. Women who are direct are punished in a way that doesn’t happen to men.

I do think it’s important to be human in email communication and coming across as bossy, arrogant or unkind is an own goal: it just makes you look like a dick.

But I also steer clear of unecessary fake friendliness in emails: phrases like “I hope this email finds you well” make people sound insincere and very junior to me.

There is a balance but over flowery emails are a turn off.

Nothinglikeagoodbook · 04/03/2025 19:30

EdithBond · 04/03/2025 08:08

I hate it. It’s like the 1870s called. And it’s a rhetorical question. They clearly don’t want to actually know how you are.

Why not just say ‘how are you?’ or ‘how’s your week going?’. When I ask people how they are, they often tell me, i.e. I was ill over the weekend or my week’s been hellish, and it builds understanding and rapport.

Tbh I don’t like that either, unless it’s asked by a friend who really wants to know.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/03/2025 19:34

Mark Twain said he had sent a long letter as he didn't have time to write a short one. Being concise but accurate is a virtue as long as you are polite. I often edit my work to make more concise.

FullDisclosure · 04/03/2025 19:37

Women shouldn't be asked to write flowery or softer communications. Polite and courteous is enough. In my organisation I've only ever come across this agonised, emotive please would you just when you have time super thankyou style from certain women, it's not respected or effective. But those writers are more likely to disapprove of women who don't do the same. Men and bosses are direct and are not told to be more flowery.

TheFirstTimeEverISawYourFace · 04/03/2025 19:56

SpunkyKoala · 04/03/2025 18:48

I’ve been told this too so I changed my bullet points to teeny tiny flowers

🤣👏

TheFirstTimeEverISawYourFace · 04/03/2025 19:58

RogersOrganismicProcess · 04/03/2025 17:26

There is a magic balance to strike between warmth and competency. Get it right and you come off as charismatic, trustworthy, dependable, knowledgeable and approachable.

Too much of the warmth without the competency and you come off as lovely but less knowledgeable/skilled/dependable.

Too much of the competency without the warmth and you come off as intelligent and skilled but cold, unapproachable and judgmental.

Both incompetent and cold is a recipe for disaster!

If you are being asked to be more ‘flowery’ you are in essence being asked to dial
up the warmth. It may be that your boss is privy to feedback, or an overarching perspective on the team, that you are not privy to.

Do you have a fear about giving it a go?

I agree with this summation 💯

CharlieUniformNovemberTangoYankee · 04/03/2025 21:41

From what you've said, your written comms sound absolutely fine to me. You obviously recognise the need to adapt style to audience and only this one senior colleague seems to have a problem with it.

On that basis, I'd ignore the unsolicited feedback. Frankly, the fact that she's not made it clear exactly what she means says a lot more about her communication style than yours.

BellissimoGecko · 04/03/2025 21:50

EdithBond · 04/03/2025 00:51

Anything like this at work, which could be micro-managing, I’d ask for an example of an email they think isn’t flowery enough and how they feel it should’ve been written. Ask in the spirit of being keen to comply. It often makes micro-managey people back off if you ask for specifics.

What’s the boss who this like? I bet it’s a woman.

It does sound rather sexist. I doubt they’d give this feedback to a man. Do you have male colleagues who do a similar job’ to you. What are their emails like? You could hint at sex discrimination, e.g. ‘have you asked John to make his emails more flowery, as I notice they’re of a similar tone to mine’

This!

My first thought was 'they wouldn't ask a man to be more flowery.'

PeppaNeedsSpitroasting · 04/03/2025 22:06

TheFirstTimeEverISawYourFace · 04/03/2025 19:56

🤣👏

@SpunkyKoala This would be me if I had been told by a boss to be more flowery in my correspondance.

Nonstopnoise · 04/03/2025 22:18

SpunkyKoala · 04/03/2025 18:48

I’ve been told this too so I changed my bullet points to teeny tiny flowers

That's hilarious - everyone must have thought you were a right card.

OooPourUsACupLove · 04/03/2025 22:36

This thread reminds me of The Cooper Review's wonderful Non Threatening Leadership Strategies for Women...

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media-library-service-media/e8c83cb5-0d62-4979-bcba-9241a0165d8c.CR0,0,970,600PT0SX970V1.jpg

RafaFan · 05/03/2025 00:16

I'm with the OP. It's ridiculous to be asked to make an email which is polite and to the point more "flowery." How does anyone get anything done if they're worrying about this kind of thing, and who can be bothered reading it? I'm an accountant and I find that if I write an email with a list of queries in bullet points, clients will often only respond to one question and ignore/miss others. If it was "flowery" they likely would not read it at all.
I'll get flamed for this, but I would guess the person requesting more flowery language is a snowflake.

exaltedwombat · 05/03/2025 18:02

‘Flowery’ may have been an unfortunate word to use. But it seems your emails are coming across as curt and demanding. Fix it.

BonniesSlave · 05/03/2025 18:28

Has a man ever been asked to make his emails more flowery?

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