To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

I don’t disagree that anorexia led to her osteoporosis, but being able to access WLI exacerbated her eating disorder.

@Twiglets1 I think it's fairly standard internet discussion protocol not to take what people claim at face value without applying some caution. And of course, looking at the content of what they say rather than give any weight to a claim to authority.

I welcome posters who state they are HCPs saying negative things about weight loss injections if they like, and if they can back that up with some kind of reasoning or evidence. I don't expect people to ignore the negatives of prescription only medication, people should be well informed after all. I would not and have not shied away from talking the possible negative side effects of WLI. But that needs to be in a clear context of risk versus benefit, rationally.

Obesity is very much a chronic disease according to the WHO. What are these other ways to control weight because 95% of traditional weight loss methods fail?

eating less?

Is that your position on anorexia? Addiction?

safer ways with the same long term effectiveness? Because that’s key. There are very few long term solutions to obesity.

yeah the argument that most people gain weight back - most people who have lost weight using any method will gain it back. So nobody should even try?

Ineffective long term. People who over eat cannot sustain it.

@Mightymoog ah, eating less! Goodness I'd never have thought of that....

Obesity is a disease and a chronic medical condition. I know lots of people resent this fact but yet fact it remains.

People with anorexia swallow cotton wool balls to curb their appetite. If she had an eating disorder she would have found a way to restrict her diet. No doctor or pharmacy on earth would prescribe WLIs to her if she went a legitimate route. There are all sorts of totally legitimate drugs that are abused by people who get them on the black market.

No, you are formerly obese which is a physical condition in which your body is a healthier BMI but your body remains damaged by the obesity and you are therefore more likely to become obese again than someone who was never obese. Obesity damages fat cells and causes them to reproduce. It also causes hormonal damage. It's not the case that you lose weight and are recovered.

Yes as I said that is proven to not work long term for 95% of patients so any other bright ideas?

I absolutely could eat less. I just prefer to pay a couple of hundred quid a month on the jab - just for funsies!

Me too. I love spending unnecessary money and sticking needles in myself.

Ah no, come on. She was mocked because she was uninformed about the actual process of obtaining MJ from online pharmacies. Which seemed odd considering she was supposedly a pharmacist and that Mounjaro has caused a massive, seismic wave in the pharmaceutical industry!

She was also unaware that the active ingredient in MJ was the same as has been used for Type 2 Diabetes for over 20 years. Which again seemed odd for a pharmacist?

Then when she was (rightly) called out on that she tried to make out that she meant she wouldn't trust the safety of any prescribed drug until it had been in general usage by the public for at least 20 years! So happy to ignore the decades of research and pre-testing and medical trials then? So, yeah, damned odd for a 'pharmacist'.

Yes there is no food noise because most people feel mildly sick on them... I can't imagine feeling like that ever again after sickness in pregnancy it caused me massive anxiety. I've had friends feeling really rubbish, sick etc one waking up in the night shitting themselves... out of about 10 people I know 2 have had no symptoms with the others having as above.

That's enough to put me off without the unknown side effects (which if you are obese probably counteract other complications of that but if you don't need to loose much who knows what inner damage you are doing for a quick fix)

She's solved it everyone!!

It always amuses me that posters who claim the unpleasant thing they said in their first post wasn’t meant the way people had taken it, then end up revealing themselves to be ignorant fat shamers later on in the thread. They can’t seem to help themselves.

I don’t feel mildly sick on them all the time, the only real side effect I’ve had is some digestive issues and that’s just needing to remember to drink more water and get more fibre in. And I am in multiple groups on here with a much larger sample size, and haven’t seen anything like 80% of people feeling as sick as you describe. Again, I’m very suspicious of all the anti-WLI folks here who happen to have many friends who confide in them about being on the jabs and shitting themselves. Seems unlikely.

Have you? What possible negative side effects of WLI have been mentioned on this thread without someone taking the drug immediately responding angrily or dismissing the person mentioning it?

@adviceandhugs rather than your anecdata, only 1 in 10 people get mild side effects which may include nausea amongst other minor issues. Which aren't constant and are usually easily resolved. I've been taking Mounjaro for 34 weeks now, I do not feel constant nausea!

Nobody is going to force you to take WLI or even suggest it strongly! Why would it even slightly worry you that some other people might feel nausea?

thank you.

What I meant was that after being on the injections a person will have lost weight.
They will have got into a routine of eating less on the injections.
Once they stop the injections it will be safer to continue the same eating pattern ( eating less) as when they were on the injections.
Not that bizarre a concept and not sure how that's fat shaming

I don’t feel sick at all on them. I have never heard of anyone defecating themselves in the night either on Mumsnet, Reddit or social media and I have read hundreds of accounts of people’s experiences. It’s odd that everyone has these friends, all inevitably skinny, all with hideous side effects.

Just bide your time

Watch and wait and see what happens to the others before you dive in

They may end up piling it all back on when they stop injecting

Same! Absolutely no nausea at all. I literally just don’t think about food relentlessly anymore. I now eat what I imagine is a typical healthy diet enjoyed by most without disordered eating. It’s so easy!