To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

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Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

A friend of mine has just completed that 800 calories a day soup & shake diet via the NHS. I did think it sounded too severe but then thought if endorsed by the NHS it must be ok? I’ve only spoken briefly to her about it as haven’t seen her since she started it & she’s been quiet but has told me she didn’t feel hungry which I found hard to understand.

I’m seeing her in person next month so will find out more. She said she lost 30lb & is still losing. Incredible really, I admire her self discipline so much as couldn’t have stuck to soups & shakes for 3 months personally. I would have tried to cheat & ruined the whole thing.

It's not just about eating protein, you have to also exercise to maintain muscle. Protein won't do it alone.

Feeling this post even more today as the sun has begun to shine and I’m dreading shedding my winter coat which hides my body so well. A mum at school pick up asked why I was so covered up 🤦🏻‍♀️

I think you’ll find you have a natural weight that if you eat a healthy diet and correct amount of calories your body will maintain this and it’s very hard to go up or down from

I feel like this is just the new quick fix fad diet that everyone will do for a year and then next year put it all back on and more because the food noise will return as soon as they stop taking it. So unless they want to take a drug for the rest of their life then they will inevitably put the weight back on.

I’m also increasing muscle mass as I lose weight.

I’d long gone to my personal trainer as an overweight person so he’s very much on board with my weight loss journey and from the outset he’s had me work very hard on increasing muscle mass.

@mochimoons I will take Mounjaro for as long as I need to, I have no issue with that. Just like I take medication for my high blood pressure and will do for as long as I need to.

It seems unhelpful to suggest to people not to bother trying to lose weight because they will inevitably yo-yo. What do you suggest I should do instead? When this is the only thing, bar some very disordered eating as a young adult, that has enabled me to lose weight long term successfully.

@SilenceInside I am really only talking about people who are a size 12 who don't need the drug, not people with obesity issues. Assuming you are taking it because you need it for health reasons rather than to fit in size 8 jeans.

No one who is a size 12 without health issues is getting these legitimately.

@Strudie I know at least 5 people who are taking it who would not have qualified for it - it's not exactly difficult to get it.

That's why lots of people are preparing to be on it for life 🙄

Why refer to 'food noise' if you're talking about people taking it against guidelines who aren't obese? Actually people who aren't obese are more likely to keep any weight off long term precisely because they aren't obese.

@mochimoons the issue with people getting a prescription only medication fraudulently is that they've already made a stupid fraudulent decision. I am not interested in whether those people regain weight or not.

@Glorybox2025 lots of people have food noise who are a size 10/12 and exercise but eat small amounts to maintain a lower weight. The people I know taking MJ were a size 12 but wanted to be much thinner. I'm just talking from my own experience based on what I've seen.

Yes lots of people on here conveniently have friends who are doing it without a prescription and/or have suffered terribly and/or put all the weight back on already. But you can claim anything on the internet, so I’m afraid I’m not taking it terribly seriously.

I just made the point that people taking it for period of time who then come off it will struggle to maintain their lower weight. And I think you actually did agree with that anyway @Strudie because you're planning to be on it for as long as you need to - which could be forever if your weight starts to increase once you stop taking it?

How do you know this? Surely, as you said upthread, "lots of people have food noise who are a size 10/12 and exercise but eat small amounts to maintain a lower weight" so, using your logic, once those on Mounjaro get to a 10/12, they will be hunky dory?

No - I never said anything like that, presumably you’re mixing me up with someone else. And I don’t agree with you, I don’t think we have enough long term data to know yet what maintenance will look like for the majority of WLI users.

@itsnotagameshow well actually logically those 10/12 people have managed to maintain that lifestyle with no drugs - people coming off MJ haven't done that? This is also just my personal opinion I don't know it for a fact.

I don’t tell anyone in real life I am on it as I’m embarrassed. Lots of other users are the same. I don’t know anyone in real life who is on WLIs (I probably do but nobody has volunteered the information to me). I find it hard to believe that people have five size 12 friends who have all managed to get it without checks and openly brag about it. I was turned away from one provider, Juniper, because they didn’t think my photos matched my stated weight (they did, I just carry it fairly well and very evenly distributed). I get it from Simple Online Pharmacy now who wanted a dated piece of paper held up in the photo. I don’t know of any providers who don’t ask for photos. They will usually also inform your GP although my GP doesn’t have a clue what I weigh - my last recorded weight there is from 2010.

Also sorry to harp on about dress sizes but at BMI 30.1, I could fit into M&S size 12 jeans as they have stretch in them. So maybe some of the size 12 mates discussed here actually were obese 🤷‍♀️ Or maybe they had a BMI of over 27 and had high blood pressure or high cholesterol and qualified for it. You don’t have to be extremely large to be obese.

There’s no way of verifying the “my friend did x stories” but some of them are definitely bollocks like the one about someone from work who had track marks as a result of injecting. The needle is absolutely minuscule and its subcutaneous injection so you wouldn’t be able to get track marks.

I don’t think you can compare the experiences of people who’ve acquired WLI fraudulently when they are already at a normal BMI to the very many people on this thread who are taking it, are able to get a prescription for it without lying, have engaged with the prescriber properly and read the advice (pages of it btw, sent out regularly) and have made the necessary lifestyle changes to prepare for the best outcome.

Are people who are medically obese yet still not properly obese in the eyes of some posters meant to just shrug their shoulders and get on with it?

Should there be additional restrictions imposed on prescribing this (safe for most people) medication because some people who may or may not exist have lied to get it?

I’m baffled that people care so much about medication that is taken by other people who have assessed the risks with their prescriber.

I think there should be tighter restrictions and I'm not actually against the drug in it's entirety. It is just my personal opinion that lots of people who take it don't really need to and they are using it as a quick fix to lose weight which might backfire. I didn't mean to offend anyone who is taking it and am very aware that what I've said doesn't apply to everyone. 😅

So why do people take them then? Why do they work for people where other attempts at weight loss don't work?

I really don’t understand why people who aren’t on the injections and don’t need the injections want to come on here and voice their opinions (almost always with no factual basis) and make up rubbish about ‘oh I know so and so who got it illegally’ or ‘10 friends did it and they’re all fat again already’. I don’t believe you. I’m not saying no one gets it without a prescription and a small % will have significant side effects or complications and yes, like with any weight loss programme, some people may struggle to keep the weight off. But for so many other people this is the first thing that’s really helped them to be successful, to be healthier, to participate more in life and feel better about themselves. If you want to come on here and be fucking gleeful that someone might fail or might become ill, just because you’ve decided based on absolutely nothing of substance that these injections are cheating or dangerous, then you’re not a good person, and it’s a great shame there is no injection that can help you with that.

It has been approved by people with far more specific, clinical knowledge than anyone contributing to this thread. Stop with the nonsense armchair psychology and dodgy medical advice, and find something better to do with your lives.

I used them for 4 months and lost 2stone 6 lbs and have gone from morbidly obese to obese. I was a size 14 up top,16 on bottom and am now a 12 on top and 14 on bottom. My weight loss was not nearly as damatic as what you often see on social media. It still wasn't an easy fix for me as I still needed to exercise plenty to lose weight and my weight loss was slow but steady. I had only ever planned to use them for a short period to kick-start my weight loss and then do it on my own. It has shown me what a portion size for me should look like and how much exercise I need to do to lose weight. I did have side effects which were too debilitating for me at mounjaro 7.5mg so I stuck to 5mg. I made an informed decision to take them.

My aunt is on them and had lost several stone. She did develop gall stones as lost weight too quickly, they got infected, led to sepsis and she almost died. She was prescribed by her GP though so was in a better position (you would think) to be monitored for side effects.

It was never intended for people who just need to lose a stone to get to a healthy bmi so they feel more comfortable in a bikini or before going on a holiday. Online pharmacies need to be much more stringent before it is prescribed.