To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

Huh? @Strudie is saying that you can't say that any one person that you hear or know of is taking them that shouldn't unless you know absolutely that their BMI was below 27 when they started and their medical history. Not that no one ever acquired them fraudulently.

overeating is not a medical condition and there are far safer ways to control weight long term than taking these injections.

You don’t need weight loss jabs to lose the weight. I found the magic of water! Honestly I’ve been dieting all wrong my entire life. I started eating better, drinking at least a ltr of water a day and eating a gram of protein for every kg I weigh on Jan 6th dnd I’ve lost 23 pounds. The weight is dropping off. And I’ve still been eating the things I love, just cutting back 80% of the time. Water is my ozempic!

So why did you say You absolutely don’t know that. You maybe know that people are taking it who you personally don’t think should be, but honestly you should mind your own business when I basically said the same thing as you earlier, that some people are getting it who shouldn't be?

I never said it was happening in significant numbers and I have no more idea than you how people are obtaining it fraudulently.

@Mightymoog obesity is the medical condition not overeating. It is well known that once you are obese there are additional and complex challenges to losing significant weight and keeping it off.

I wasn't talking about any one person though but in general that some people are getting it who shouldn't be (which you agree with it seems).

Still waiting to hear what was so odd about that pharmacists views that she had to be shut down on the other thread and be referred to with suspicion as "the pharmacist" like she couldn't actually be one?

My sister got gallstones after her weight rapidly yo-yoed when she was living abroad. Some people are more prone. My mum also got gallstones but her weight had been stable, might have been menopause, maybe it was genetics.

but once you have been on the injections for a while you are no longer obese.
Then you are just taking them to stop overeating, which isn't a medical condition

Im sorry to hear this It was a long time ago now but my breathing was ok and i had no pain.............as long as i didnt eat.

@Mightymoog the medication doesn't permanently correct the issues, as far as we know at the moment. They aren't removed by losing weight unfortunately hence why very many obese people who lose weight regain some or all of the weight.

Fortunately Mounjaro can be taken on a long term basis.

Well done you. Thing is this whole thread is about the fact that obesity and satiety are complex, to do with hormones, menopause, trauma and other health issues. I knew about water, and I worked out with a PT for three years. I still kept putting weight.

I couldn’t care less if people are on the drugs fraudulently. What they do with their body is entirely up to them. I am slightly concerned though that their stupidity can give the whole WLI approach to losing weight a bad press but then I remind myself the greater majority of people are savvy enough to ignore the scandal mongering and carry on with their day.

@Twiglets1 I'm not going to continue to discuss posts made on another thread by a different poster, on this thread. I've said what I wanted to, which is that recollections may vary and I disagree with your characterisation of what was said. I don't want to turn this into a TAAT.

@Weepixie totally agree, very clearly put thank you.

Ok up to you obviously what you wish to discuss but the treatment that poster got was the reason for my comment that what would be the point a medical professional posting when their qualifications are not believed anyway on these type of threads if they say anything negative about weight loss drugs.

Why are people so concerned that others are taking it when overweight rather than obese? It's nuts.
I'm sure if someone gets stress headaches, then meditation/a change of job/ yoga would help. But equally, who cares if they have a couple of paracetamol?

I'm sure over time they will find a subset of people that really shouldn't use the injections. But being so angry over someone else's choice is just odd.

Here’s the thing, in some areas skinny people are using them, specifically wealthy people with access to private doctors in places like Harley St. there are articles in The Times where people admit to microdosing to keep weight off. Skinny writers talking about getting doses from private doctors despite knowing they aren’t overweight and maybe only having a stone to shift. They make is seem like a cheat, or a lifestyle thing rather than a long term investment in your health.

For some less wealthy people they get dodgy jabs of dodgy dealers which make them ill. Either because they don’t qualify or they want to save money.

So it can be a problem. Loads of London high society and half of Hollywood is on them. And skinny people getting emaciated isn’t a great story and leads to lots of views like the ones on here.

some people send in pictures to pharmacies of a larger friend, there are ways round it, although hopefully video consultations will tighten it up.

There was a singer recently who admitted she used them despite being thin with an eating disorder and now she has osteoporosis in her 20s.

So whilst I use WLI, and I am a big advocate for them, I do think people abuse them and that does make it harder for those of us who do have issues in forums like this.

Both things can be true at the same time.

You don’t have to try to ignore it.

If there was a shot that would cure alcoholism would you oppose it?

I agree.

Edited to say I do think they are overall a good thing but yes, I agree that both things can be true at the same time.

Actually, I have found MJ has killed my craving for booze, and that has been widely reported so they are now looking at as a possible treatment for alcoholism.

That singer, Avery, will have got osteoporosis from her long standing eating disorder. Not from abusing semaglutide. Which is clearly unfortunate for her, and gives people two things to learn if they don't already know which is that eating disorders are very damaging to your health and that you shouldn't fraudulently obtain prescription only medication.

Oh, wow, amazing, we have an answer to obesity epidemic. Now, tell me, should I drink the magical weighloss litre of water before or after my usual 2-3L that I've been drinking for years?

I agree with this too.

What I don’t understand is why some people are so obsessed with weight loss jabs. They say they aren’t taking them and would never take them - excellent, then just crack on with your day. It’s costing you nothing, has no effect on your life and it’s not your business.

So what if slim rich people are using them ? Rich people can get anything prescribed privately (poor Elvis) and no amount of hand wringing will change this. If rich people are lying then what business is it of yours and your army ?
I care but I know my limitations with bothering about it.
People abuse meds, always have and always will, it means more and more stringent guidelines will come into force and what are you all going to moan about then ?

It’s always weird to me on threads like this to see so many obvious “know nothings” making statements as if they’re fact that are ultimately rooted in bitterness and jealousy.