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For being rude to an old lady

574 replies

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 18:13

Doing my food shop at m&s, I was rushing to pick someone up after. I needed some jam. Lady was in the way. I said “excuse me sorry can I just grab that” she just stood there so I proceeded to reach for the jam.

She gave me the most disgusting look I have ever recieved.

So because today has been a long day I said “ I did actually say excuse me and I did actually ask you to move out of the way” to which she responded “it’s such a me first attitude” I said “you do realise you’re in a supermarket. And you don’t own the supermarket. We all have places to be and people to see darling” and I walked off.

am I missing something here. Have I not used correct supermarket etiquette

OP posts:
FuzzyPuffling · 01/03/2025 15:47

I thought I'd solved the whole conundrum with a jar of Cheryl Jam. But when I looked again it was just "cherry". Foiled again!

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 15:49

FuzzyPuffling · 01/03/2025 15:47

I thought I'd solved the whole conundrum with a jar of Cheryl Jam. But when I looked again it was just "cherry". Foiled again!

Frustrating. Do you remember Bucks Fizz?
I'm wondering if "Making Your Mind Up" was a veiled criticism of the lovely Cheryl Baker?

HelenWheels · 01/03/2025 15:51

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 15:49

Frustrating. Do you remember Bucks Fizz?
I'm wondering if "Making Your Mind Up" was a veiled criticism of the lovely Cheryl Baker?

Grin Glitterball

inkymoose · 01/03/2025 15:57

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 15:45

Oh my god. Change your user name! Imagine doing all that in a supermarket.
You should know that you are expected to rush in, grab items, shout at people and rush out. No dawdling, Cheryl! 😂

😂

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 16:03

"Dear M&S, I do enjoy that piped music that you provide in store. Have you ever considered the Bucks Fizz classic, "Making Your Mind Up "? I think it would create the right vibe,
Sincerely,
Cheryl Baker fan"

HelenWheels · 01/03/2025 16:07

or some Bob Marley Jammin?

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 16:07

HelenWheels · 01/03/2025 16:07

or some Bob Marley Jammin?

😂

heroinechic · 01/03/2025 16:49

@ForeverDelayedEpiphany "No, politeness costs nothing. If someone can't even say please it's not great."

Saying "excuse me" is polite. I'm sick of ditherers. If you must dawdle in the aisles at least have the self awareness and consideration to respond to a polite request to get out way so someone else can get to something.

This is why I do my food shop online 😂 sick of Cheryl.

Salad666 · 01/03/2025 16:50

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 23:50

By old I mean 60 at best. She wasn’t lacking agility.

Oh come the fuck on, OP. I'm in my 30's and very much lack agility due to (sometimes hidden) disabilities. You don't know the woman's situation and you sound like a stuck up bitch. Hope that helps.

Salad666 · 01/03/2025 16:54

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 23:52

She was right up against the produce! I asked, waited, asked again. And then she started going on about how I was acting as though I couldn’t wait. Well no sorry Cheryl I have to pick someone’s son up so I can’t be staring at every jar until 10 pm!

So now you asked twice. In the OP you said you asked and she allegedly gave you a look so you pushed in. In your OP you also call her older and now have taken issue at the fact people bringing that up.

You can't have it both ways.

Maybe she didn't hear you? Maybe she didn't have a list and was thinking what she needed? (I am often guilty of this due to brain fog). You obviously didn't just reach in nicely or it wouldn't have been a big deal.

Who cares that you had to pick up your son? We all have places to be and people to see, darling 🙄.

Get over yourself.

ETA: Sorry, not your son. Someone else's son 🙄.

Dollshousedolly · 01/03/2025 16:55

You were rude to the woman in the supermarket and you are also coming across as rude here on this post. Calling a woman ‘old’ and following it up by saying she was at best, 60. How dare you! I am only a few years off 60 and definitely not old.

Salad666 · 01/03/2025 16:57

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 23:56

Okay so. If we want to play that. My mum was pushed over into the road and slammed her face into metal railings when she went running the other day. She had to be rushed to an and e, was pooling blood. Rang me and told me to pick her immediately. The phone cut before I could get to the location and I had 3 mins on the sat nav before I could get there and my heart sank and I didn’t know what happened to my mother at the other end of the phone for 3 whole mins. I could not think of anything other than knowing what happened and getting to my mother. I rushed straight away to find her. And she was stood in a corner with blood everywhere. I then had the panic of whether she had concussion as her head was profusely bleeding.

we all have things happening okay. I too had a lot on my mind mentally. Let’s not blow this out of proportion over a damn jar of jam. I asked nicely.

Sorry to hear about your mum but I'm falling to see how that's relevant? Is that why you were rude and think you're above people?

It is you, darling, that blew this whole situation out of proportion over a damn jam jar. You and you alone.

Salad666 · 01/03/2025 16:59

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 23:58

Oh sorry. Excuse me please whilst I shop in a public area and you choose not to move. That’s just entitled behaviour. If I posted this saying “Aibu for not moving out the way of an old lady who asked me politely to excuse myself.” We know what the comments would be.

I'm sorry but I'm 😂 at you saying the woman had entitled behaviour when you're the only one coming across as entitled.

Salad666 · 01/03/2025 17:02

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 01/03/2025 00:36

No. People don’t help people. Two people walked past my mum who was bleeding profusely. I’m not saying that we should all be like that. But society now really isn’t caring.

Again. Your mum bleeding story has no relevance to your post and what happened at the supermarket sorry, m&s, you just keep bringing it up because you don't like being told you were wrong and you're trying to get a bit of sympathy. Just accept you were in the wrong and do better next time.

BornSandyDevotional · 01/03/2025 17:35

Salad666 · 01/03/2025 17:02

Again. Your mum bleeding story has no relevance to your post and what happened at the supermarket sorry, m&s, you just keep bringing it up because you don't like being told you were wrong and you're trying to get a bit of sympathy. Just accept you were in the wrong and do better next time.

To be fair, it's highly likely the OP's mum is over 50. Which is far too old to be out running. You need youth and vigour to evade people trying to push you over. Which is probably what caused all this. Her old mum going for a run -;which is a young person's game - really disrupted her day. It's just selfish. As for Cheryl: 'We gotta fight, fight, fight, fight, fight for this jam.'

5128gap · 01/03/2025 17:37

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 01/03/2025 14:27

Recently, I was wanting a jar of seedless strawberry jam for my grandson's toast. Shopping in M&S (very new store and very busy where I live) I went back to get it three times as there was an elderly couple (at least 20 yrs older than me) standing, blocking the shelves. They each had a trolley (both practically empty) - possibly using them as walking aids, and they took up a good proportion of the aisle. I did not say excuse me as I thought they would move on eventually and I would double back for the jam.

In the end I had carried on shopping and I forgot to go back and went home without the jam, which made my grandson cry the following morning as it's one of the only things he'll eat (jam on toast/jam sandwich) for breakfast. He refused all other breakfast suggestions (wouldn't have toast, doesn't like butter, wouldn't have dry toast) and went to school hungry.

I wouldn't dream of 'shifting' people out of the way - they were there first and will occupy the space for as long as they need to. I always accommodate those who are 'in front of me/get there before me'. I remember complaining of having to wait for something when I was very little and my grandmother viciously snapped (I remember her spitting in my face during the telling off) 'well get up earlier and be first then' which made me cry - very vivid memory of crying but not why we were held up/waiting. I remember feeling full of shame for complaining.

My husband, on the other hand, would have 'shifted' them by barging through and reaching in front of their faces for what he wanted. He would not have said excuse me. That approach would not have resulted in my grandson's tears - happy grandson, having had breakfast before school.

I think OP was rude - H would not think OP was rude.

One POV cancels the other so no point in me posting - other than it reminded me of upsetting my grandson last week.

He only eats cheese squares on toast for dinner and luckily, I had some in the fridge for home time. I now have strawberry jam and will not run out of it in future - one open, one spare. (Usually only have cherry jam and lime marmalade.)

His safe foods rarely change, but had changed during half term. I need more notice next time - and a slightly better memory. Could have kicked myself for forgetting the bloody jam.

If only H would do the shopping all the time .... and shove all the old people out of the way. Confused

There's a mid point surely? Where you go up to the people chatting, stand in their line of sight and say pleasantly "Excuse me, could I just reach past you to the jam?" There a exceptionally high chance that will be greeted with "Oh, sorry, of course you can" and possibly even some pleasantry about how they're in the way. To which you reply "Not at all...". Then maybe some British competitive apologising follows before you all get on with your day. Pleasantly.

Princessfluffy · 01/03/2025 17:45

"Darling?!!!" that was super rude and inappropriate.

ChonkyRabbit · 01/03/2025 23:10

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 01/03/2025 15:34

No, politeness costs nothing. If someone can't even say please it's not great.

It's only in your little world that "excuse me" isn't polite. Whereas the reply you claim to make (I don't actually believe you're brave enough IRL) is exceptionally rude.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 01/03/2025 23:16

ChonkyRabbit · 01/03/2025 23:10

It's only in your little world that "excuse me" isn't polite. Whereas the reply you claim to make (I don't actually believe you're brave enough IRL) is exceptionally rude.

WTH are you going on about? In "my little world", excuse me is polite, but there's nothing wrong with the word please either.

And what reply am I not exceptionally brave enough to make? Have you quoted the wrong person or something?

friendlycat · 01/03/2025 23:46

5128gap · 01/03/2025 17:37

There's a mid point surely? Where you go up to the people chatting, stand in their line of sight and say pleasantly "Excuse me, could I just reach past you to the jam?" There a exceptionally high chance that will be greeted with "Oh, sorry, of course you can" and possibly even some pleasantry about how they're in the way. To which you reply "Not at all...". Then maybe some British competitive apologising follows before you all get on with your day. Pleasantly.

Edited

I couldn’t agree more. Someone being sensible.

ChonkyRabbit · 02/03/2025 00:39

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 01/03/2025 23:16

WTH are you going on about? In "my little world", excuse me is polite, but there's nothing wrong with the word please either.

And what reply am I not exceptionally brave enough to make? Have you quoted the wrong person or something?

Yes I did, I thought you were the weirdo that I was replying to in the post you quoted.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 02/03/2025 00:44

ChonkyRabbit · 02/03/2025 00:39

Yes I did, I thought you were the weirdo that I was replying to in the post you quoted.

Ah ok - as in - the OP? Fair enough.

I actually wrote a reply upthread saying how awful the OP was - I'm not standing here saying i thought what she did was great..! (Hence my question about your misquote).

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 02/03/2025 01:18

@5128gap

I did not say that they were chatting/passing the time of day/deliberately wasting my time - they were considering what to put in their trolley, they were shopping - which they are entitled to do without being instructed to shift. Maybe they didn't usually shop in M&S and had more choice than usual.

I tend not to move people along as I think they've every right to need to be in the same space where I want to be. I'm happy to wait until someone has moved. I don't want to behave like my husband because I think his behaviour is entitled/aggressive/unacceptable and could potentially lead to him getting stabbed one day.

I'm not the supermarket loitering police. I don't have authority to 'move people along'.

I will say something if someone pushes in front of me in a queue. But not if someone is choosing what to put in their trolley, reading a list, reading ingredients, working out unit price etc. I will not push in front of/or reach across anyone - even to get a jar of jam.

Some people can afford the time to saunter around a shop at leisure. Just because someone is in a rush we should not have to apologetically jump out of their way and magically clear the aisles. It doesn't say anywhere before you enter a shop that you must fly around flinging every item you want into your trolley without stopping or obstructing another customer.

OP should not have been rude to the woman - who happens to be my age - old!? Saying excuse me doesn't automatically allow you to reach across, literally barging the person out of the way, who had got there before you. Wait your turn.

inkymoose · 02/03/2025 06:15

No bumbling around the supermarket aisles. No smiles.

No chatting, no dawdling, no dithering, no getting in the way. No sauntering, no standing on one leg, no gazing, no grazing.

No staring, no hard stares, no slacking. No backchat. No snoozing, no snoring. No schmoozing, no floozies, no sneezing.

No begging, no screaming, no weeping. No fussing, no flapping, no fiddling, no foreigners, no fools.

Those are the rules.

Zoeyclash · 02/03/2025 06:22

To be honest, the tone of your conversation with the lady in M&S makes you sound rude, and so does the tone of your replies to posters on here.

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