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For being rude to an old lady

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ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 18:13

Doing my food shop at m&s, I was rushing to pick someone up after. I needed some jam. Lady was in the way. I said “excuse me sorry can I just grab that” she just stood there so I proceeded to reach for the jam.

She gave me the most disgusting look I have ever recieved.

So because today has been a long day I said “ I did actually say excuse me and I did actually ask you to move out of the way” to which she responded “it’s such a me first attitude” I said “you do realise you’re in a supermarket. And you don’t own the supermarket. We all have places to be and people to see darling” and I walked off.

am I missing something here. Have I not used correct supermarket etiquette

OP posts:
CaptainMyCaptain · 01/03/2025 09:41

farmlife2 · 01/03/2025 08:52

When you're 20, 60 is old. When I was 20, 35 was old. ha. Even 30 was pretty old. 60 is definitely middle aged but not old. I mean, it's older, but old definitely doesn't kick in till at least 70 IMO.

I'm early 50s. At 20, that was pretty ancient. I certainly don't feel or live old.

😀I'm 70 and still very active and don't feel old (I realise I am though).

farmlife2 · 01/03/2025 09:42

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/03/2025 09:41

😀I'm 70 and still very active and don't feel old (I realise I am though).

By 70 there's such variation in how 'old' someone is in terms of health and ability. Glad you're doing well. I intend to not slow down one bit till then at least. Hopefully it works out!

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 01/03/2025 09:42

Rude rude rude. And the fact you have to ask if you were speaks volumes. You don’t own the place, everything doesn’t happen on your time and you aren’t more important. Then when someone reacts to your rudeness in a way you don’t like you don’t get to respond in such a rude way. Give yourself a shake.

That lady was minding her own business and had to deal with your rude interaction because you can’t act politely.

You are being mega unreasonable and entitled and were rude multiple times .

AuntAgathaGregson · 01/03/2025 09:53

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 28/02/2025 23:52

She was right up against the produce! I asked, waited, asked again. And then she started going on about how I was acting as though I couldn’t wait. Well no sorry Cheryl I have to pick someone’s son up so I can’t be staring at every jar until 10 pm!

Odd that you didn't think to mention that you asked twice in any post before this one.

If it was so imperative that you pick up "someone's son" without delay, why stop to do your shopping at all? It's not as if M&S jam is exactly one of life's essentials.

HelloNorthernStar · 01/03/2025 09:57

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 01/03/2025 00:36

No. People don’t help people. Two people walked past my mum who was bleeding profusely. I’m not saying that we should all be like that. But society now really isn’t caring.

And you are a perfect example of these people you quote here.

PS just loving your attempts to justify your actions Darling…

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 01/03/2025 09:57

You were rude and it was unnecessary.

AuntAgathaGregson · 01/03/2025 10:00

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 01/03/2025 00:36

No. People don’t help people. Two people walked past my mum who was bleeding profusely. I’m not saying that we should all be like that. But society now really isn’t caring.

They do, you know. When I had a fall one cold evening last year on a road where there aren't usually many people, a lady with a small child went out of her way to help me, and another man went into a shop to buy tissues and water for me as my broken nose was streaming blood all over my face and shirt.

Your reaction to this lady suggests you wouldn't have helped, but don't assume everyone is like you.

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/03/2025 10:00

AuntAgathaGregson · 01/03/2025 09:53

Odd that you didn't think to mention that you asked twice in any post before this one.

If it was so imperative that you pick up "someone's son" without delay, why stop to do your shopping at all? It's not as if M&S jam is exactly one of life's essentials.

It just gets worse every time the OP tries to defend herself.

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 10:01

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/03/2025 10:00

It just gets worse every time the OP tries to defend herself.

Doesn't it?!

BatchCookBabe · 01/03/2025 10:36

Completelyjo · 01/03/2025 06:12

Guarantee if the OP had said it was a woman in the way with her 3 young kids all the comments would be very different, moaning about how entitled she was for taking up too much space and why was the supermarket a day out.

What a supremely daft thing to say. 😆 Did you even read that through before you posted this drivel?

wandawaves · 01/03/2025 10:38

Some weird replies here IMO. I can't imagine being so scared of people that you would just stand there in the background waiting and waiting for "your turn" to get something from the shelf. Your turn? Don't you just, you know, share the space?
I'm not in the UK though, maybe it's a cultural thing. I say excuse me to people in the supermarket ALL the time, as does everyone else, with absolutely no issue or hurt feelings.

It was abit over the top though to rant at her. And "darling" is pretty condescending. But saying "excuse me"?? Absolutely nothing wrong with that!

BatchCookBabe · 01/03/2025 10:38

Fountofwisdom · 01/03/2025 05:59

You were very rude and entitled. On top of that, it’s your problem you were in a rush, and if it was so pressing, why was a jar of jam so important? And secondly, although you couldn’t wait 10 seconds politely for her to move, you had the 60 seconds to spare to complete your nasty, patronising little tantrum. Presumably you were taking out your ‘long day’ on this innocent stranger. What if she’d had a ‘long day’/bad news/has mobility or hearing issues?

You sound like a rude, selfish piece of work. Hope the jam is as sour as your attitude…

Brilliant! 😂 100% agree too!

zingally · 01/03/2025 10:49

She probably didn't hear you the first time, that's all. In my experience, M&S foodhalls are metallic boxes with horrible acoustics.

I don't think you were in the wrong to reach over her, particularly. Like you say, it's a supermarket, and everyone is just trying to get their stuff done and get out.

The passive aggressive diatribe was the bit that was unnecessary.

BatchCookBabe · 01/03/2025 10:53

Completelyjo · 01/03/2025 09:27

It’s not about how you age. Everyone ages by time by the same amount. It’s not about how fit or healthy you are or are not. You could have a perfectly capable mobile 80 year old, they would still be old because they are old.
It’s ridiculous to try and claim 60 is middle aged like some posters.

Who has ever claimed 60 is middle aged? 😂 No-one that's who. I class as a 60 year old as a 'senior,' but not 'old!' I thought the OP was talking about someone who was about 83!

However old the other lady was, the OP had NO right to speak to her like she did. She has totally embarrassed herself! I find it hilarious that she's still trying to justify herself when most posters are saying she is being totally unreasonable.

LittleBigHead · 01/03/2025 11:23

I’m laughing at people calling 60 “old.”

I’m nearer 70 than 60 and I still have a kick arse job responsibilities for training many others and I’ll bet I could outrun and outlift the OP at the gym. If I want to take my time choosing jam in M&S I bloody well will, and @ThePerkyCoralPoet can wait.

SallyWD · 01/03/2025 11:31

BatchCookBabe · 01/03/2025 10:53

Who has ever claimed 60 is middle aged? 😂 No-one that's who. I class as a 60 year old as a 'senior,' but not 'old!' I thought the OP was talking about someone who was about 83!

However old the other lady was, the OP had NO right to speak to her like she did. She has totally embarrassed herself! I find it hilarious that she's still trying to justify herself when most posters are saying she is being totally unreasonable.

I've seen middle aged described as ending at 60 0r 65. Wikipedia says it's from around 45 to 65. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_age

StMarie4me · 01/03/2025 12:04

Another ageist post.

I'm 62. Still work 52.5 hrs per week, in a job that is tiring and stressful.

My time is as important as yours. As was hers.

You were very very rude, ageist and you need to understand you're not the main character on other peoples' lives.

BunnyLake · 01/03/2025 12:21

LittleBigHead · 01/03/2025 11:23

I’m laughing at people calling 60 “old.”

I’m nearer 70 than 60 and I still have a kick arse job responsibilities for training many others and I’ll bet I could outrun and outlift the OP at the gym. If I want to take my time choosing jam in M&S I bloody well will, and @ThePerkyCoralPoet can wait.

If someone said they spoke to an old lady today absolutely nobody would be picturing in their head a 60 yr old.

GabriellaMontez · 01/03/2025 12:39

You wanted her to move.

You preceded this request with "excuse me".

But that doesn't oblige her to jump out of the way because you're in a hurry.

It doesn't entitled you to priority. Because as you rightly said, its a shared space. Sometimes there are other people there first and we have to wait for them.

llovemermaidgin · 01/03/2025 13:14

If 60 is middle age then are peeps expecting to live 110 - 125?? It's senior ffs, don't kid yourselves otherwise.
OP you were actting like a t--t and are sulking because people have quite rightly pulled you up on it. You haven't got the response you expected, you'll be senior / elderly one day then some moron will be moaning about you dithering and taking up space in shops with your pensioner trolley.

lifeonmars100 · 01/03/2025 13:22

CurlewKate · 28/02/2025 20:17

Ageism is so depressing.

It's rife on here. It is as if the people who post the ageist stuff think that by doing do they will never get old and not be on the receiving end of a social attitude they have contributed to

KatyaKabanova · 01/03/2025 13:24

lifeonmars100 · 01/03/2025 13:22

It's rife on here. It is as if the people who post the ageist stuff think that by doing do they will never get old and not be on the receiving end of a social attitude they have contributed to

Well, it'll hit them hard one day.

inkymoose · 01/03/2025 13:26

GRex · 01/03/2025 09:32

From a health perspective, someone might fit "elderly" definitions in their 50s or not until their 80s. However, just so you know, 60 is actually middle aged by WHO definitions, and bear in mind they have to take global poverty and healthcare into account for their definitions. 65 is where "elderly" starts for WHO.

That's very interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks @GRex

inkymoose · 01/03/2025 13:34

AuntAgathaGregson · 01/03/2025 10:00

They do, you know. When I had a fall one cold evening last year on a road where there aren't usually many people, a lady with a small child went out of her way to help me, and another man went into a shop to buy tissues and water for me as my broken nose was streaming blood all over my face and shirt.

Your reaction to this lady suggests you wouldn't have helped, but don't assume everyone is like you.

Edited

Your post reminded me that a few years ago I fell off my bike and broke my arm. While I was lying on the ground wondering what to do, three or four teenagers rushed over to help me. They saw what happened and they rushed to help. They did help. It was fantastic what they did.

Shwish · 01/03/2025 13:34

GabriellaMontez · 01/03/2025 12:39

You wanted her to move.

You preceded this request with "excuse me".

But that doesn't oblige her to jump out of the way because you're in a hurry.

It doesn't entitled you to priority. Because as you rightly said, its a shared space. Sometimes there are other people there first and we have to wait for them.

100% disagree. If I was standing in front of a shelf of jam or anything else and someone else wanted to get some id squidge up to let them. Absolutely nobody in their right mind wouldnt. Why would anyone wait their turn? There is no need. That's nuts. Unless there was literally a wall or other trolleys or something on the side and behind and nowhere for the person to go.