Can you define what Female Gender is?

[peakedandoverthehill]

I hear about biological sex and gender being different things but what is female gender? Surely if you can't define what having a female gender is, then how can it exist?

Voting

YABU - I can define female gender and will write my definition as a post here.
YANBU - You can't define female gender

The NHS website used to say (may still do) that one of the signs of gender dysphoria may be liking or not liking particular sports associated with males or females.
That was the moment I peaked.

Gender is just personality. Dunno how any of it can be male or female

I'm sure plenty of posters on FWR would be able to offer perspective to you.

Not pulling you up - just trying to get rid of these nonsense phrases that we’ve all ended up teaching ourselves to try to argue with lunatic TRAs! Let’s not play their games.

FWR?
I'm getting lots of responses here too. Thanks

I don’t think he can, not sure why you think I’d know

So it seems.

If he believes that female gender means liking things that are associated more with females - skirts , long hair, shopping

And especially if he has been bullied for his personality being too feminine

Then he may feel that he has a female gender ( aka a personality that aligns well with the societal stereotypical female)

It's feeling
You can't deny someone's feelings

You can be aware that feeling isn't fact

But to deny somones feelings however stupid they are just pointless

@Wildflowers99

I think gender ideology is more 'The person wearing marigolds and a pinny but letting the boring cishetronormative helpmeet woman' do the dishes' is a woman

Yes interesting isn’t it. Posts and posters like to discuss women, sex, gender and similar, in other areas of MN. Not just on the FWR board. Despite what some people like to think. Dearie me.

You never know, maybe it might be a great place to work. They may start talking about DEI initiatives when you go for interview. You can ask for disability access plans, maybe menopause or carer's or paternity leave, whichever might apply to you.

Every application, every interview is good practice for the next one.

Some posters do.

Being female means having a vagina.

Gender is irrelevant and based on old fashioned stereotypes that no longer have a place in society.

Gender is a social construct so being female gender is being what would be seen as feminine in your culture. Biological sex is what genitals you have.

Beat me to it.

Some people may say your masculine. Can you honestly say you have never met someone and thought they are feminine or masculine?

Yep I can honestly say I've never thought of people in terms of feminine and masculine. I worked with a lot of different people in lots of different places and humans are varied, complex and endlessly interesting. There is no one person I have met that fully encompasses masculinity or femininity as a social construct, it's like nailing fog to the ceiling.

But I am amused that you think that based on the list of things I wrote, since the vast majority of women do some of those things too.

Some posters do what?

Whenever this topic comes up I just want to scream "does it fucking matter" in a most unladylike way.

I'm in my mid 50s and probably would have qualified as non-binary had I been a teenager in this century, except it's nonsense to me. I've always had the attitude that I have a particular meat suit with various attributes, some of which are irritating at times, but that's just the vehicle for "me". "Me" gives my biological self little attention, except in practical terms - have big boob's, wear a bra, used sanpro when needed, birthed a child, sweated through the menopause and am currently "enjoying" post meno invisibility, but hey ho, that's just my life.

Happy to declare my sex as what it objectively is - important from a medical perspective for example, but my feelings about it are trumped by being a person.

I've been patronised, marginalised, and had crap relationships because of society's obsession with gender stereotypes, and it drives me mad with incomprehension.

I still seethe with fury about the "protective" (translation controlling) behaviour and attitudes of some male relatives, such as my male cousin, who I went to see a film with when I was 18 and who virtually frog marched me onto a bus straight home rather than letting me go and have a drink in a pub where I wanted to meet friends, because he didn't want to go with me. It was so nice apparently that he "cared" but no, he was one month older than me and loved having the power because our parents all condoned it. Yes, I could have done my own thing, but the parental fallout would not have been worth it.

So I can't really help with the gender stuff because I donbeliwve in it. I'm an adult human female. That's it. Period.

Sorry for the ranty ramble but I'm just too old for this shit.

@MistressoftheDarkSide

Very well put.

Agree with this.

Oh no, the women are talking again 🙉

We are women too.

And yet here you are again on one of these threads.

So? Have you considered, radical idea incoming, just not reading the thread?