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Sad about how life has turned out

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Cinno · 22/02/2025 23:50

Can't help but feel sad about how life has turned out as a single mum. I know I'm suppose to pretend to love it but I can't, I hate it and I'm so lonely and miserable it's not early days so no it won't "get better" I hate it the more time goes on. How do you get over the fact life hasn't turned out how you'd hoped?

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RawBloomers · 23/02/2025 17:21

My mum was a single parent and it did basically destroyed her life while we were young. She did everything she could for us, but it was at a huge cost to her. Made me very pro-abortion.

So I really feel for you, OP.

For what it's worth, my mum's life did improve a lot when we were older. She put some effort into developing a career once we were old enough not to need supervision all the time. And the extra money a good job brought in made her life pretty decent for a while.

I think the way to "Get over it" is not to wallow in the bad bits too much. I don't mean pretend everything is great. It isn't. I mean acknowledge the bad bits but don't spend time thinking about them. Find distractions for when your mind goes there. And start to think about what you might do when the kids are older. Work towards those goals if you can. Focus on a potential good future, not the difficult time you find yourself in now. It's a slog. It doesn't change the fact you're in a difficult place and can't do the stuff you want to now. But I find it's the way to get through long periods when things are pretty shit and there's not much you can do about it.

GreyCarpet · 23/02/2025 17:24

Cinno · 23/02/2025 16:53

I didn't say clubbing, they use to again we are talking when I was late 20s I was asked what I use to do! I know they mostly go to bars now not sure why that's even relevant how do you spend your weekends? 🙄

I actually don't think there is anything wrong with being in your 30s and still going to bars or pubs for a drink or a dance.

As I said before, I'm 50, and I still do that. As do my friends (all of whom, OP, have been made in the past few years, you know, once i was 'old').

It's ridiculous to suggest that the OP is wrong for still wanting to go out and have fun. Not everyone wants to stay at home curled up on the sofa with a glass of wine and a good book. Not every night at least and it won't be helping her to suggest that no one does that over the age of 30 or once they have children. Because they do.

BUT, OP, what are you going to do to change the situation for yourself? Because I'm telling you now, if you spend the next 5 years wallowing like this, NOTHING will change.

Robotmonkey81 · 23/02/2025 17:26

Op, I don't really have any advice but I wanted to let you know I get it! I'm a widowed parent with 2 children still in primary school. I feel suffocated by the weight of responsibility and lack of freedom. I totally get the feeling of being even more lonely in a crowd!

The only thing that is getting me through is the hope that this too shall pass!! My youngest is 7 so I've got a few years yet but I'm not going to be "trapped" forever. I'll be in my 50s by then but I fully intend to make the most of my "freedom". There is a small (pin prick) glimmer of light in the trees!!! I hope you can find your little glimmer of light x

Thoughtfullythorough · 23/02/2025 17:27

Cinno · 23/02/2025 16:53

I didn't say clubbing, they use to again we are talking when I was late 20s I was asked what I use to do! I know they mostly go to bars now not sure why that's even relevant how do you spend your weekends? 🙄

As a single mum? Dog walks, meet for brunch with friends and our children, day trips, house work, homework, film nights, cinema….

and you?

telestrations · 23/02/2025 17:28

Absoultly agree with all this.

I finally realised I was suffering from PPD instead of just thinking lots of awful things were happening or being done to me. I thought as I escaped the baby blues it wasn't a possibility. I'm now on an antidepressant and everything is much better. Not amazing or perfect, but better. And the better I get the better other things seem to be and slowly actually become.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 23/02/2025 17:28

Lavenderfarmcottage · 23/02/2025 16:35

This is frustrating to read. You’re down with limited options and people aren’t understanding.

OP you need support and babysitting and to reach out to a service maybe or find another single Mum to swap with you.

i support you not wanting to leave a 12/13 year old in charge. Don’t do that, you obviously feel it’s not safe and you know your kids better than anyone.

Edited

I don't think it's that people aren't understanding, it's that she sounds like Sad Sack from the Raggy Dolls.

I think she needs mental health support herself, but unless she accepts that herself, she's just going to wallow deeper and deeper into her pit of despair. Maybe people's comments will help her see she needs help?

Thoughtfullythorough · 23/02/2025 17:29

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Thoughtfullythorough · 23/02/2025 17:31

GreyCarpet · 23/02/2025 17:15

Despite my feelings around the OP's situation and her attitude, I think this is a deliberately disingenuous response.

Because I’m wondering whether the OP is imagining what were life would be like if she had some childfree time

but it wouldn’t actually be like that in reality

GreyCarpet · 23/02/2025 17:36

Thoughtfullythorough · 23/02/2025 17:31

Because I’m wondering whether the OP is imagining what were life would be like if she had some childfree time

but it wouldn’t actually be like that in reality

No, it might not look like clubbing but socialising amd maybe going out to a pub or a bar is absolutely what it could look like if she had some children time and wanted it to.

Niknakcake · 23/02/2025 17:38

I’m a single mum. Was single from when kids were 1 and 3 until they were 9 and 11 and then had another relationship… that relationship made things infinitely worse than being single. Became single again when they were 16 and 18 and they are now in their 20’s and I would NEVER have another relationship. Being a single mum is hard (I too have no family support and their dad has had nothing but I do with them since he left) but I did find that it was made worse when I allowed myself to wallow and just focus on the negatives. Feeling elated that I’m doing it all solo doesn’t come naturally but making myself find the positives in the situation definitely help me feel better about it. My situation isn’t going to change so the only thing I can do is change how I deal with it.

TheSnootiestFox · 23/02/2025 17:39

Cinno · 23/02/2025 16:53

I didn't say clubbing, they use to again we are talking when I was late 20s I was asked what I use to do! I know they mostly go to bars now not sure why that's even relevant how do you spend your weekends? 🙄

Well, seeing you ask, as a single parent to two teenagers, on Friday I dropped elder (16) off at a friends for the weekend and I'm picking him up in an hour or so, and yesterday younger (14) and I went for breakfast from a fab bacon sarnie trailer on the way to a horsey themed jumble sale that we went to, then he went to work at a local livery stables while I took the dog for a long walk along the river bank and me and her stopped for a pint and a bowl of water respectively. Last night because there were only two of us and I had pub vouchers, I took 14 year old out for tea and we watched the rugby while we ate.

Today, I've watched eleventy million episodes of James Martin on TV while I finished some admin work for the charity I volunteer for, bought new clothes for my elder son, done some food shopping and I'll make pizza when elder son comes home. Second born was knackered from work so he's slept, had a shower, mucked out his room a bit and chatted online with his friends. The last weekend I had them (I admit they go to their dads every other) the firstborn went to an apprenticeship fair with cadets and the second born worked, went to pony club and took part in YFC Public Speaking Day and Sports Day.

Both my boys do Army cadets, then the youngest shoots, rides, goes fishing with his mates and does Young Farmers, the eldest follows our local football team and spends more time with cadets as the Army is his thing. They both have girlfriends and see them regularly. The youngest works. I'm always looking out for things they can try and do and things to take them to.

BUT, here's the thing, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEIR COMPANY. The pair of them are brilliant and I consider it a privilege to be their mum.

I completely get the wanting a partner thing, I was celibate for an eight year stretch in my 30s and I was bloody married at the time 😂 but I left him and met a really lovely bloke 5 years after my marriage ended. But the thing is, we do stuff together, we have interests in common and I like to think I'm an interesting person which means I always have stuff to tell him and discuss. With kindness, nobody is going to want to spend time with someone who is so negative and doesn't even like her own children. Maybe build them a new life and see if yours follows?

princessleah1 · 23/02/2025 17:40

Sounds like a total nightmare.

Could you get your youngest to scouts or guides? Its cheap and they have summer camps that don't cost much. They're still young enough to get involved with something like that. Once they reach 10/11 it all changes as I'm sure you know!
Or maybe the school have something afterschool they can help you with? even half an hour of time carved out can make a huge difference.

And if you can afford it is there a rock school type place near you? Two of mine were awkward, didn't confidently do sleepovers but being into music really helped their self confidence, its a buy in to being a bit cool which helps their confidence in other areas.

Having 4 children is very hard work. Best wishes to you, it will get better and you're still young.

GreyCarpet · 23/02/2025 17:42

Now turn the very first step into a SMART goal. So specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and timed. So with the example above it might be to make a list of possible hobbies you might enjoy tonight after tea.

This is exactly what I did.

On my long list of what I wanted my life to look like, having nice nails was on there. I'd completely neglected myself. And it was an easy win.

I bought a nail file, some handcream and a nail polish and spent an evening doing that.

It made such difference because it was me making one small change for myself that signified to me that I was the author of my own story from now on. No, it didn't change the bigger picture which was still that I couldn't have contact with my mother anymore due to her choices, my dad was still dead and my husband was still gone. I still didn't have any friends.

But it was what it signified that was important.

Anyway, some of my SMART targets were very short term (like the nails) and some of them were longer term (a year or more). But each day I did something, was one step.closer to the life I wanted to live.

But, OP, you have to do that. No one will do it for you and, if you don't make the changes, nothing will change.

Nannylovesshopping · 23/02/2025 17:45

I’ve read all this thread and tbh op I want to give you a damn good shake, there’s been wonderful helpful advice from posters giving up their valuable weekend time to try and help you, but you’re not having it are you! You would prefer to wallow in self pity, not a good look! If you can’t shake a leg for yourself, then do it for your children, my sympathies lie with them, you could make your life better for you all, get a bloody grip and put them before yourself!

BigHeadBertha · 23/02/2025 17:46

YANBU. This is long and took me a while to write, so I hope it's at least somewhat useful to you.

First, I feel for you. You expected to have your husband there by your side, adding to the finances, lightening the load and providing companionship.

Instead, you've had to trudge down a long, hard, lonely road.

You got screwed. Of course you feel discouraged, cheated and drained. Who wouldn't?

However, remember you ARE eight years further down this rough road now. 13, 12, 10 and 7 (I might have one of the ages wrong there) is a whole lot closer to the stage where things start lightening up than 5, 4, 2 and one on the way. It's all just about to start getting lighter. Don't give up!

I have to say though, that after reading your posts, I do agree with those who say you have gotten into a negative, possibly clinically depressed mindset, even though I totally get how that would happen, all things considered here.

This is a bit off topic because I feel like my issues at the time were not as much from outside forces as your problems seem to mostly be. Mine were more me just kinda falling off mentally/emotionally over time and getting stuck in a rut somehow, though both outside and inside factors always both factor in. (I had a husband and two young-ish kids at the time). But what is the same, is the dire need to figure out how to start spiraling upward instead of downward, in the best way possible at the time. Please disregard if all this doesn't help.

Anyway, through the years I had become depressed and stuck in a rut. I didn't have a job nor any job skills and was home with kids and no social network, not much extra money. I also became very unhealthy, overweight and a heavy smoker, and my house was always a mess. My kids were getting old enough that I wanted a job but I didn't have any job skills and didn't think a low-paying job that any teenager could do would add much to my life, in money or satisfaction. I just felt sunk.

I tried little things like just taking walks around the neighborhood to get out of the house and start getting in better shape but I could only walk a short distance before having to sit on the curb, out of wind. My attempts only amounted to floundering.

I like making detailed lists and charts for some reason, so I finally decided to list my top five problems, then put them in order of which I would work on first to which I would work on last. Then I wrote detailed steps for how I'd work my way out of each one, over a years' time.

For example, under kicking the smoking habit: Getting the nicotine patch and the nicotine gum and an anti-depressant that also helped with addiction (Wellbutrin at the time, which also helped me feel more hopeful and energetic). Cigarette money went in a jar for me to spend on little luxuries for myself. Read daily about benefits of not smoking, join a quit smoking online site. Etc. Hitting it from all angles, since I had tried to quit numerous times already and failed.

Other categories: 2) weight loss, 3) choosing a career and get job skills for it 4) get on a housekeeping routine, involving kids (free online program). 5) social - last and to be determined later

What I discovered as I went on was that working on one of my problems tended to help with my other problems too, just as my problems had seemed to work together before to keep me sunk. For example, the Wellbutrin to ease smoking cravings also improved my mood and overall energy level so I was able to move more, which helped with weight and being able to do better with housekeeping. Improving my housekeeping skills gave me a home that was company ready, which helped with trying to improve my social life. Etc.

The "rules": I'd have to focus on the first item on my list like it was practically the center of my life (as much as possible). When that was accomplished, I could move on to the second item, and so on. But I could also work on the other items on the list at the same time, if I wanted to. Another rule was that I had to read my entire list, the five main headings and details under each one, every morning and every night. That worked like magic to keep my new "program" foremost on my mind.

So, a year later I had kicked the smoking habit, dropped about 25 pounds and felt like my old self again, gained pretty solid housekeeping skills and also taught them to my kids, and had started classes for the career I chose. I had made two new friends, one from school and one of my kid's friend's moms.

I had decided to go into social work and got such a kick out of it when the method above, that I stumbled onto and thought I made up, was featured in one of my classes. It wasn't very sophisticated or deep or anything like that, but it worked. :)

Sorry this is so long but I wanted to share because I could see you doing this too, starting with what you are able to do now and with an eye to the near future, when you'll have more freedom to act. Some examples: 1) Help kid who is being bullied- home school him, if possible. Do school drop off and pick up, if that's possible and would help. Call a school conference with teacher, speak with principal, etc. 2) Prepare to date with diet and exercise improvements, if needed (preparation for happier future and also could give a boost to energy and mood). 3) Social- start over with trying to make friends at your age and stage. Perhaps exercise routine (if you choose that) includes walks where you might meet others or consider other attempts you could try, such as simply inviting a neighbor over for coffee. Also under social, consider seeing if there are any babysitting courses for teens or find online and start training child number one or child number two to be able to help out with that, starting with short amounts of time. Etcetera. You don't have tons of room to navigate right now but I do see some room.

Best wishes to you, dear.

eatreadsleeprepeat · 23/02/2025 17:50

Not an easy situation to be in and not many people will have been in the same place so can’t, hand on heart, say they understand. But some people will have shared some aspects and can offer advice.
Having someone else to share makes every negative experience a bit more bearable and any happy occasions even better so I get that being alone is huge. You are coping and coping well but the mentality needed for that (head down and one step at a time) is not the same mentality that creates change.
You cannot make time pass faster, you cannot make your ex see the kids but there are maybe things you can do. Have you had a benefit check? Have you sought help from something like home start? Have you considered talking to your doctor, I was determined that I didn’t need medication and there was nothing I could do to make myself feel better, eventually rang the gp, relatively low dose antidepressants have been a game changer.
I get that all the things to make a change require extra effort and that may feel beyond you but without that effort nothing will change.
Could you find a local teenager (obviously older than yours) and get some babysitting, could you book all four into holiday clubs at Easter and have a few hours to yourself for a few days. Could you do a very honest and direct appeal to your mother, tell her you are in a bad place and need a hand up. Would you be able to go to a lunch time yoga or exercise class one day a week in term time?
I realise that you cannot see this just now but your young years are not the only good years!

Redpeach · 23/02/2025 17:51

Workerz · 23/02/2025 17:12

Here's the plan.

When they're at school tomorrow, call and make a GP appointment. Call the local health visiting team and chat to them. Reach out to Gingerbread, a charity focused on single mums. Do all three, spend 10 minutes on each max.

You have depression. You need help with this. It's affecting your children the longer you go without help. Having a partner wouldn't solve everything and as you said, it's unrealistic for now anyway. First you need to help yourself .

Longet term plans can include... Sign little 2 (or all 4) up for scouts or something similar as others have said. Don't try to make plans to go out those evenings yet, you need some time to just reset yourself. Write a list and cross one thing off a week (eg get house sorted, find a lunchtime yoga class, whatever).

But for now, make those 3 calls tomorrow. It's just 3 things. Do them all tomorrow. Start your journey to being happier.

Love a plan

BigHeadBertha · 23/02/2025 17:52

Just wanted to add that when I was 11, we moved to a poor urban area where there were lots of single mothers. I was so busy babysitting that I was rarely home (didn't want to be anyway but that's a different story) and soon became the richest kid I knew.

I don't know that that would be allowed now, outside of family, and I sure wouldn't have left my kids with a pre-teen. However, in spite of my age, I was actually quite good at it and also quite enthusiastic about it.

However, as you say it depends on the kid. If child number one is simply not babysitter material, what about starting to train child number two for that job? Or... maybe even a slow start on it with child number three? I really think you are closer to more freedom than you realize. :)

YoureNotGoingOutLikeThat · 23/02/2025 17:53

I feel for you, OP. It is hard when you feel like you are trapped in a situation and you don't know where you can go for support or help. It sounds like you are grieving for what you thought would be rather than how it has turned out.

When you are a single parent, you take on twice the role. More so, if the other parent is absent (although navigating parenting with antagonistic ex-partners brings a different level of frustration). A single parent is always on duty, never has time off, no one to share ups and downs with. It is relentless. Without a support network of family and friends it is even tougher.

Add to that, if you are surrounded with other parents who appear to be successfully navigating their marriages, parenting or even have their wider family for support it can throw your "lack" of those things into stark contrast.

You are still young. I had my first child at your age. Your children are growing up. So, there is some light in terms of a little more autonomy on the horizon. Keep steering the course and it will happen.

I think at some point, you have to do some of the thinking that others have suggested. Re-framing some of the situation can be helpful - it's true that there is always someone worse off thank you or that things could be worse than they are. Try to find a smidgeon of "thank feck it's not worse" in your situation. Take the lead in your friendships and ask if a friend would be able to baby sit one evening. I've offered this to single friends - you might find someone will be happy to support your request. Set some expectations for your kids - start small so that they don't become entrenched at home. Get them involved in deciding what you could do as a family - bootsales could be one option - supporting a local charity of their choice could be another - or something else the children can come up with.

I'd suggest not dating right now. Maybe in a year or two but I think rn you need to focus on the family dynamics at home first.

No one can solve this for you and I don't think that is what you were asking for. Parenting is like a marathon with an obstacle course thrown in for good measure. But it is important to remember that life doesn't stay still. In 2 years' time life will already look different, in 4 years it will be different again.

veggie50 · 23/02/2025 18:05

There are no silver bullet, only little things that may help ease your pain. Try take your 2 younger ones out to do the little kids thing like play / bouncy gym, it would give you some out of the house time and parents do often chat to each other while watching their kids play. That way, the older kids can also have some space too. When you really feel the cabin fever setting in, take the youngest one to the shop for grocery etc. You'd be doing a chore and surely the other 3 can behave for an hour or so - bring some nice treat back for good measure.
As for your best years being behind you, plenty of people in their 50s and 60s will tell you it is the best time of their lives! Important thing is to keep yourself fit and healthy both body and mind and the best will come!

ThreeLocusts · 23/02/2025 18:07

OP four kids between 13 and 7 on your own - I'm not surprised you don't like your life. I think my mother could have written a post like yours when I was 12 or 14. Even though there were only two of us, and she was relieved to see the back of my father (abusive prick).

All I can say is - things did get better for her once we were out of the house. But there were times when it was really hard growing up around her because she was so fed up. Like you, she felt let down by family (rightly) and was desperately lonely.

Is there any way, any way at all you can make time to do something you enjoy? My mum survived partly on music (she had very particular tastes and she'd insist on listening to the relevant radio programmes). And are there ways to get your children to do more together or with friends and less with you?

So no real advice, but I so hope you find a way to take care of yourself. Try to minimise 'sacrifices' for the kids, as long as they're safe and fed and comfortable, I suspect not being miserable is the best thing you can do for them too. Flowers

justanothercrapbedtime · 23/02/2025 18:08

I feel for you OP

A lot of ivory tower dwellers on this thread - how is anyone supposed to get all 4 kids to go on a sleep over with a different friend all on the same night 🤔

And no most normal family members won't take all 4 kids for a sleep over at once - bet even the best Grandparents would think twice - bet the people suggesting that have one child 😂

And forcing kids out when they don't want to go is just miserable - trying to fake the enthusiasm the whole time

I don't have the answer I'm afraid - I just know WFH will be exacerbating how you are feeling. I try and force myself into the office at least once a week. My ex doesn't have my 3 children at all either.

Being a single parent is shit. Those that say it isn't likely have some kind of shared custody agreement. It's lonely isolating and never ending.

If it helps OP vent - maybe on the lone parent boards where more members will be in a similar situation to you

Praying4Peace · 23/02/2025 18:22

RawBloomers · 23/02/2025 17:21

My mum was a single parent and it did basically destroyed her life while we were young. She did everything she could for us, but it was at a huge cost to her. Made me very pro-abortion.

So I really feel for you, OP.

For what it's worth, my mum's life did improve a lot when we were older. She put some effort into developing a career once we were old enough not to need supervision all the time. And the extra money a good job brought in made her life pretty decent for a while.

I think the way to "Get over it" is not to wallow in the bad bits too much. I don't mean pretend everything is great. It isn't. I mean acknowledge the bad bits but don't spend time thinking about them. Find distractions for when your mind goes there. And start to think about what you might do when the kids are older. Work towards those goals if you can. Focus on a potential good future, not the difficult time you find yourself in now. It's a slog. It doesn't change the fact you're in a difficult place and can't do the stuff you want to now. But I find it's the way to get through long periods when things are pretty shit and there's not much you can do about it.

Brilliant advice and thank you for sharing your heartfelt story.

BigHeadBertha · 23/02/2025 18:25

As for your kid who is being bullied, when that happened to my kid, I sent his older brother to handle it and it ended instantly. He was told not to touch the kid or outright threaten him but to just say, "I suggest you leave X alone," then walk off. I don't know if this would be a good idea for you but perhaps something to think about.

Also, I would encourage you to re-read these replies later. It's a lot to take in at once and of course a lot of suggestions just won't work for you and then there are typically a few that are rude and nasty. But I also see a lot of wisdom on this thread and hope you will give it its due. :)

Bumblebeestiltskin · 23/02/2025 18:26

justanothercrapbedtime · 23/02/2025 18:08

I feel for you OP

A lot of ivory tower dwellers on this thread - how is anyone supposed to get all 4 kids to go on a sleep over with a different friend all on the same night 🤔

And no most normal family members won't take all 4 kids for a sleep over at once - bet even the best Grandparents would think twice - bet the people suggesting that have one child 😂

And forcing kids out when they don't want to go is just miserable - trying to fake the enthusiasm the whole time

I don't have the answer I'm afraid - I just know WFH will be exacerbating how you are feeling. I try and force myself into the office at least once a week. My ex doesn't have my 3 children at all either.

Being a single parent is shit. Those that say it isn't likely have some kind of shared custody agreement. It's lonely isolating and never ending.

If it helps OP vent - maybe on the lone parent boards where more members will be in a similar situation to you

Maybe most family members wouldn't take 4 kids at once for a sleepover, but surely you expect that when you make the decision have 4 kids?