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Should I give my brother £15k?

195 replies

25doingtherightthing · 20/02/2025 12:14

My mum died last year and I need some advice, apologies if this is a long post. My brother and I didn’t have the easiest upbringing (think low income single parent household, addiction, neglect, emotional abuse). In her later years my mum came into relative money - through final salary pension and the inheritance of a privately owned council property. My brother lived at home rent free until late thirties when she passed, never paid rent or contributed to any house hold bills, never maintained her house, never saved a penny. I Ieft home at 18 to fend for myself. My brothers difficult behaviour alongside my mums was a contributing factor there.

A few years ago I was looking to get on the property ladder with my savings. My mum gifted me £30k, wrote a gifted letter etc. to my knowledge she never gave my brother the same money.

I now have 2 Dc (bro has none and is single) and my brother and I have now both inherited from her estate. The reason I’m posting is because I’m unsure as to whether I should give my brother £15k (half the £30k) to even things out. I’m sure my mum would’ve intended him to get the same, although didn’t amend her very old will.

We recently sold her house which was damp, damaged from my brother smoking (cigarettes and weed) inside and in a state of disrepair. The estate agent was clear that it could’ve been worth much more if it had been maintained. I also feel resentful about my brother having lived for free, while I had little support. However this is likely clouding my judgement.

I’d love to hear what others would do in this situation? Would you give your brother £15k? Please be kind, I'm trying to do the right thing, thank you.

OP posts:
25doingtherightthing · 20/02/2025 18:45

hairbearbunches · 20/02/2025 16:32

Lots of people on here telling you to keep it. Only you know what the right thing to do is.

Why did your brother continue to live at home into his 30s until your Mum died? Was he just lazy, or was it because he struggled to overcome your childhood more than you did? Did you have the wherewithal to get out, that he wasn't able to find? You mention difficult behaviour. Is that poor mental health? Shitty childhoods are shitty childhoods. Some children manage to disentangle themselves, others aren't so lucky. But only you know,

Someone mentioned putting it in an account with the intention of giving it to him if there is a right time in the future. Perhaps this is the happy middle that you can live with.

Thank you for your post, I really appreciate it. You articulate a lot of the feelings that led to me asking for advice in the first place. It isn't clear cut and I definitely have a lot of survivors guilt around 'getting out' from our childhood. Given everything we've experienced, the life I have managed to build for myself is quite remarkable. And I do feel bad that my brother hasn't been able to do that. He does also suffer from poor mental health (as have I, which I have sought help for).

That being said, he has been very unkind to me in the past - manipulative, constant lying, bulling, and has stolen from our parents before, among other criminal behaviour. He regularly 'borrowed' money from our mum that he didn't pay back. He also left me to organise the funeral alone while caring for a newborn and left me to take charge of cleaning and clearing the filthy house he had been living in. I feel so much resentment, grief and trauma that it's difficult to think straight, hence me asking for advice.

OP posts:
ButIToldYouSoooo · 20/02/2025 20:05

Your update makes it even clearer that you should absolute not give him any money. He has had more than his fair share of your parents' money over the years, and your parents recognised that. Hence the cash gift to you.

Inertia · 20/02/2025 21:21

Perhaps one thing to consider, given your updates about your brother, is that your mother gave you the 30k financial gift directly in order to actually stop your brother getting his hands on it?

Walkacrossthesand · 20/02/2025 21:31

Oh @25doingtherightthing my heart goes out to you, especially after your last paragraph.
It is absolutely the right thing 'morally' that you draw a line above the £30K gift, but previous posters have made some wise observations.
Firstly, gifts made less than 7 years before death, are regarded as part of the estate and liable for inheritance tax - the liable amount tapers from 100% in year 1, to 0% in year 7.
Secondly, you may want to do some digging around the 'double gift' point made above - as your mother was effectively giving your brother gifts of equal or greater value in the form of paying his bed and board, this may not apply to you, but do be aware of it.
Finally - I have no doubt that when he has spent the inheritance and your DF is no more, he will be back knocking on your door for the subsidies to be continued. Prepare yourself, and harden your heart!
Sympathies for your loss and heartache Flowers

godmum56 · 20/02/2025 21:57

RandomButtons · 20/02/2025 18:16

I’m stealing that expression

its a very old one. I picked it up from my seafaring husband.

OwlInTheOak · 20/02/2025 21:59

No, she probably gave you that partly to support your DC too and partly to even out him getting more support.

healthybychristmas · 20/02/2025 23:47

OP, reread your last post whenever you are wavering. You owe him absolutely nothing. He, on the other hand seems to owe everybody something. Don't even give it a second thought. Your mum would be glad to have helped you out and would be livid if she knew you were going to give him money on top of his half of the inheritance.

Slimmermama · 21/02/2025 19:15

I had the same situation. Brother claims to have looked after parent but in truth used the house as a base to sleep. When parents both died and I HAD to give him half, he squandered it. It made me sick what he chose to do with it. Totally selfish and no long term plan. That was worse seeing hard earned money being frittered away.

Keep it. Never tell him. Don't feel guilty. I'm sure by the sounds of it your mum probably helped him out financially when he lived with her. She's gifted you your share.

BugEyedBear · 21/02/2025 19:35

DPotter · 20/02/2025 12:39

Let's run some numbers.

This does depend upon which part of the world you live, but let's assume rent over a 20 years period (18-38) was £500 per month. That's £6000 per year, and £120,000 over 20 years. You can halve the rent to £250 per month and still get £60,000 benefit to your brother over 20 years. This is excluding utilities, council tax, etc. In fact you can drop the monthly rental to £62.50 per month before you get to £15k.

You do not owe him a penny.

Edited

Definitely agree with DPotter.

Your brother sounds like the kind of person who is a taker and expect things to be handed to him on a plate.

laraitopbanana · 21/02/2025 19:40

Hmmm…

12years x 12 months x let’s say £300 for being there = £43200

No, you don’t owe him nothing 😒

LemograssLollipop · 21/02/2025 19:46

I think your mum tried to even things out between you and your brother by giving you the £30k at the time when she did.
If she wanted your brother to have some cash, it seems to me she might have gifted cash to both of you at the same time but she didn't. She sounds like a very astute lady.

Respect your mum's wishes.

Your brother has received some of the proceeds of sale of the house so he's not done without.

Be kind to yourself and try to let go of the guilt that is making you want to give money to your brother.

So sorry for the loss of your dear mum.

LemograssLollipop · 21/02/2025 19:55

@Grammarnut I posted without rtft and read your post after posting mine... We've made such similar points.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 21/02/2025 21:46

Depends why she gifted it to you and not your DB. Would she have gifted him the same at some point?

This would hang over me and would rather give him half so my conscious was clear with no ifs or buts.

It would open a can of worms if he finds out.

justasmalltownmum · 21/02/2025 22:21

No I wouldn't.
More than likely he will burn through his inheritance, and then ask for it in a few years. The answer should still be no.

Dogsbreath7 · 21/02/2025 23:18

Nope.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 28/02/2025 18:28

@25doingtherightthing I am just going to add my voice to the masses, so you see how the majority feel.

Please do NOT give him a dime. Between the free room and board, the destruction of the house and his stealing, he has gotten much more than 30K.

He does not sound like a good person, and be careful how much you let him into your life and your children's world.

Lots and lots of people have shitty childhoods, but there comes a time that it is no longer a reason, and it becomes an excuse. He is in that latter category.

Now your father is giving him free room and board, so he has more excuses to not start adulting.

jay999 · 01/03/2025 18:04

No I would definetly not give him any money. see how he gets on with the money he's been left, if he doesn't squander it & needs money in the future for something positive then re-consider. In the meantime just put it away somewhere.

Gtbb · 01/03/2025 18:09

Absolutely not.
Back away from him would be my advice as you do not want him using you when it suits him in the future.
Protect yourself.

PaleRosePlease · 24/03/2025 11:10

No you owe your brother nothing. Please keep the money for yourself your mum wanted you to have it & please try not to feel guilty x

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 24/03/2025 12:49

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 20/02/2025 16:04

@25doingtherightthing - are you the executor?

If not, I agree with all the posters here!

If you are the executor, however, the legal position may be somewhat different. It's been a while since I've done probate - but there's a legal doctrine called the ‘presumption against double portions’.

Put simply, a ‘portion’ is a substantial lifetime gift made by a parent or guardian to a child with the intention of “establishing the child in life or to make what is called provision” for them. This includes helping a child on the property ladder - as seems to be the case here.

However, if the parent has also left their child a sum in their Will, it will be presumed that they did not intend to make the gift twice (ie to the detriment of other children) and that the value of the lifetime gift should therefore be deducted from the beneficiary’s inheritance. Which would mean that the £30k gets deducted from your portion of the estate.

This presumption can be displaced if a) the Will specifically excludes lifetime gifts, and/or b) the terms of the gift or other evidence indicates the gift is in addition to the child's inheritance.

Like I said, if you're not the executor, not your problem legally - but if you are, handle with care

As previously indicated - if you're not the executor, no, don't give the money to your feckless. If you are the executor, get legal advice because of the 'presumption against double portions'

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