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Why would a mum block a friendship? Playdate exclusion

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 10:13

My 9 year old has been very close , even best friends, with another child at school. Outside of school child's mother avoids us and is icy cold with us. She is warm and friendly with three others arranging playdates, sleepovers, holidays with them. I've invited her child over a few times but messages completely ignored. Her kid has made it clear they'd love to play outside of school with mine.

She'll bend over backwards facilitating other friendships even though those children have problematic behaviour at times e.g. domineering, occasional threats in the games and disrupting lessons. So it's not that. My child is kind, no arguments and no complaints from school.

Mother slightly odd in some other ways too but who isn't.

AIBU to think this is exclusion or social bullying? How do I support my child as child doesnt understand why friend cant play outside of school? Do some people just like making little kids unhappy?

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:23

Eldermilleniallyogii · 13/02/2025 18:04

If she doesn't like or you doesn't want to spend time with you she shouldn't have to. It's not bullying. She won't want to go on holiday or arrange a play date with you if she doesn't want to spend time with you. It doesn't mean you're not a nice person, you may just haven't clicked.

She wouldn't be having a playdate with me, it's for the kids.

Hope it doesn't come across wrong.

I don't exclude kids because mum isn't my kind of person.

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:24

Spottyshirt · 13/02/2025 18:07

I’m imagining behind a tree at playtime

You nailed it again.

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BreezyScroller · 13/02/2025 21:36

"bullying"
"abusive parent"
"asking the school to somehow be involved"

because they don't want you, and your child, in their home.

Unbelievable 😂

Joke aside, you need to chill OP. You are going to ruin your own kids social life by being so weirdly invested and ridiculously entitled.

Justanotherperson2025 · 13/02/2025 21:37

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 20:29

No, I described their behaviour, did not call them anything. If a child threatens to hit others if they dont do what child says in the game, than the word is threatening, that's how language works. If they always want to be in charge and boss others around, and exclude in case of non compliance, that would be domineering. They are words for that, baby.
I gently suggested a handful of times over 5 years, no acknowledgement - that's the extent of my engineering. My kids play with whoever they want to including the ones with problem behavior, with great behavioir, the domineering ones, loud, quiet, boisterous or reserved, rude, pollite, SEN, no SEN, any creed or background, I like parents, I dislike parents - none of that matters. I dont exclude them.
You are completely off the mark abd your post is actually vile. What a nasty piece of work.

Throughout this entire thread you have been rude, overbearing and fixated and obsessive.

I am coming to your house. Give me your address. You do not get to say no, it is my choice. What do you mean no?!!!!! YOU ARE EXCLUDING ME!!!!!

This is EXACTLY how you sound. This woman is very, very wise. She saw you coming.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:38

YourSparklySeal · 13/02/2025 21:08

I haven’t read every reply but one thing this thread has shown is how differently people approach things.

I feel your pain OP. Recently watched one of my daughter’s friends hand out party invitations to every other girl in the class apart from her and honestly it was horrible to watch. For whatever reason the mum has gone out of her way to avoid me, and I can only assume has some preconceived idea about me. I know my daughter can come across as bossy as she loves rules and would like everyone to follow them but that seems an extreme reaction if that’s the reason.

Ironically I have a become somewhat friends with a parent who’s kid is not nice at all. So whilst we’re friends she knows what I think of her kid and we actively try and keep them seperate.

I personally hate not knowing what’s going on in social situations, but know I have little control over it, and whilst I attempted to socialise in the beginning it’s why I spend as little time as possible now on the playground!

I try to make light of any situations with my daughter as much as possible and explain that unfortunately people don’t have to behave how we would like.

Thats terrible to watch, what a cruel person. I'd personally never discourage a friendship because of bossy behaviour from a friend, in fact mine does have friends like that, but so many people on this thread have stated it would be a perfectly valid reason to do so.

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:39

BreezyScroller · 13/02/2025 21:36

"bullying"
"abusive parent"
"asking the school to somehow be involved"

because they don't want you, and your child, in their home.

Unbelievable 😂

Joke aside, you need to chill OP. You are going to ruin your own kids social life by being so weirdly invested and ridiculously entitled.

Go away ChatGpt and work on your reading comprehension. Under your bridge ideally.

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:44

Justanotherperson2025 · 13/02/2025 21:37

Throughout this entire thread you have been rude, overbearing and fixated and obsessive.

I am coming to your house. Give me your address. You do not get to say no, it is my choice. What do you mean no?!!!!! YOU ARE EXCLUDING ME!!!!!

This is EXACTLY how you sound. This woman is very, very wise. She saw you coming.

I've never invited myself to anyone's house.😂 that's my worst nightmare. There are some batshit responses today

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Apollo365 · 13/02/2025 21:45

Sorry if I’ve missed it as it’s quite a big thread. Have you ever met the child out of school (bowling or something out of your house?) would parent allow that?
Does she allow the child to attend your child’s parties?

I think at this point with nothing to loose, call her out?

hey bobs mum, I hope me/my child haven’t done something to upset or offend?
The kids are keen to meet after school, but every time I ask you just avoid me!
How about we get the kids together at bowling this weekend, happy to supervise if you just want to drop him off

(or similar)

or ask her to her face?

BreezyScroller · 13/02/2025 21:49

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:39

Go away ChatGpt and work on your reading comprehension. Under your bridge ideally.

no, you are right, I can see why everyone would be delighted to organise playdates and make sure you are visiting their home 😂

For whatever reason the mum has gone out of her way to avoid me 😂
puzzling.

Justanotherperson2025 · 13/02/2025 21:50

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:38

Thats terrible to watch, what a cruel person. I'd personally never discourage a friendship because of bossy behaviour from a friend, in fact mine does have friends like that, but so many people on this thread have stated it would be a perfectly valid reason to do so.

You keep using drama llama adjectives, cruel, terrible, exclusion, bullying. You made the bizarre claim that you are "worried this will ruin their self esteem" What utter rubbish, learning to cope with rejection (which you obviously have not) is an absolutely normal part of life, and frankly your kid wouldn't know about it unless you were harping on about it.

The entire conversation should have been "I texted her mum to ask a couple of times, haven't heard back, sorry love"

Your whole attitude to this other persons's child and demands to force her to let you into her life are overwrought, controlling, fixated and over emotional.

You have repeatedly tried to pretend this woman is trying to split your kids up, when she is doing nothing of the sort, she just wants to invite whomever she pleases to her own home.

You have also pretended that children playing together in school and you not controlling and demanding access to other people's homes is exclusion.

Additionally you have made the strange claim that this woman not allowing you to force your way into her home is bad for her child, when it's clear that her child has a great social life, your child is not just involved in it.

And then you made up a weird scenario about children being dragged into school crying because their mothers occasionally refuse play dates with women or children they don't like.

If you walk around spouting such over dramatic attitudes to everything, that will be another good reason this woman avoids you, apart from your lack of self awareness, determination to ignore boundaries and fixation on her child.

Justanotherperson2025 · 13/02/2025 21:53

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Justanotherperson2025 · 13/02/2025 22:05

Look, aside from the fact that you come across as deeply unlikeable on this thread, I am aware that you have feelings, even if you don't care about other people's.

So I will give you a piece of advice and then leave you to keep slagging me off and everyone else who disagrees with you.

The advice is this - see a therapist. Show them this thread. And do it right now, make the appointment immediately, no waiting around.

Your child is 9, soon they will be 10, 12, 16 and you will still be helicoptering, controlling and putting everyone off and teaching your kid to bulldoze boundaries and take rejection deeply to heart, if you don't learn new approaches now.

In all seriousness, you need to unpick your controlling, demanding behaviour and lack of self awareness before you ruin your kid's social life completely. You are much, much more like your own mother than you realise and your efforts to protect your child are coming across, on this thread, as unhinged, fixated and obsessive.

I will leave it at that.

Isittimeformynapyet · 13/02/2025 22:12

@Justanotherperson2025

I think that just about wraps things up here.

As you were, everyone.

pizzaHeart · 13/02/2025 22:19

The thing is that you can’t have unlimited amount of playdates so you have to choose. At this stage many parents want to encourage certain friendships so they invite these kids. Maybe they are thinking about the secondary stage or family connections or it’s about joint hobby.
It’s a bit naive to ask why people behave this way if you don’t - people are different and have different views.
This mum doesn’t want her child to be best friends with yours. She doesn’t bother about who playing with whom at school but outside school she doesn’t encourage the relationship in any way. Why ? Because she doesn’t want to. It doesn’t matter if it’s something about your child or about you. It’s a pity but it’s your reality.
We can endlessly guessing why but we won’t know the truth. So the most sensible thing you can do is to leave it and encourage other friendships. Believe me, I’m talking from bitter experience. It could be your income level, your social status, your marriage, your personality, the fact that you were not British, the fact that you were not local or just the fact that all other mums were active PTA members and you were not. You might understand it later or never but you can’t do anything about it.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 22:20

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Justanotherperson2025 · 13/02/2025 22:29

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Oh dear, parasites and vultures now is it? Imagining other people have no interests and lives because that comforts you in your friendless life?

Seriously. Seek therapy.

Goodbye.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 22:55

MissUltraViolet · 13/02/2025 11:35

Encourage DC to branch out and invite others round instead. They are getting to the age where parents tend to have less control and they have more independence when it comes to socialising outside of school and making their own decisions with who they spend time with.

Has this child and yours ever had any kind of falling out? Wondering whether the child may have ever said something negative to their mum about yours before?

Nothing major, i don't think. They along quite well.

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SouthLondonMum22 · 14/02/2025 01:32

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 22:55

Nothing major, i don't think. They along quite well.

How do birthday parties work? Does the child go to your daughters parties? Is your daughter invited to their parties?

Spottyshirt · 14/02/2025 06:23

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/02/2025 01:32

How do birthday parties work? Does the child go to your daughters parties? Is your daughter invited to their parties?

Good luck. OP steadfastly ignores this question

Spottyshirt · 14/02/2025 06:23

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 22:55

Nothing major, i don't think. They along quite well.

But the child “blanks” your child outside of school you say

Spottyshirt · 14/02/2025 06:24

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:44

I've never invited myself to anyone's house.😂 that's my worst nightmare. There are some batshit responses today

I’m going to guess you’ve also never been invited to anyone’s house OP

Spottyshirt · 14/02/2025 06:25

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 21:24

You nailed it again.

Finally! Some insight and honesty from the OP!

Skymadeofdiamonds · 14/02/2025 08:30

Thank you to the helpful and insightful posters, it was really useful to hear everyone's perspectives.

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Grammarnut · 14/02/2025 09:03

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 14:43

Be assured most of us do not decide who our child will and will not play with, kids are supposed to sort it out themselves. We also do not prioritise our own friendships the way you are suggesting over the ones kids develop naturally. I'd much rather nurture the friends they chose themselves and most other parents I know would do the same.

No, we don't choose our DC's friends, but we do introduce them to likely friends outside school, most likely from our family and friendship circle. This is entirely normal. Those meetings and relationships do not necessarily lead to friendships, of course.

Eldermilleniallyogii · 14/02/2025 14:59

Op have you reflected on the situation after reading others' views? Your replies indicate you haven't taken on board what people have said