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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

OP posts:
Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:44

Ponderingwindow · 11/02/2025 16:00

You mention kids, which means leaving the phones off is not an option. We check our phones just in case it is child related, but do tend to put them away otherwise.

for the rest of it, honestly, you do sound unreasonably to me. DH is and I went grocery shopping by ourselves on Saturday night and it was fantastic. Not remotely romantic, but we got to talk without children around and just be with one another. We have plenty of passion when the moment is right, but a date night doesn’t have to be romantic to be a way to connect in your relationship.

We do all that…we have normal lives and most of the time thats fine…thats why io said dont call it a date…too much pressure. Not my pressure, pressure that he put on that isn’t gonna be this and that…..I get there and its normal Tuesday afternoon stuff after him bumping it up so much

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MrsTWH · 11/02/2025 20:49

If a man I was in a relationship with called me a pathetic cunt, just once, it would be the last time he ever got the opportunity to talk to me. He would be gone before he knew what hit him.
Come on, OP. It’s time. 8 years of this crap!!

CulturalNomad · 11/02/2025 20:53

my general consensus is that he is an asshole who doesn’t have my back and when i get upset about that, he calls me a pathetic cunt and stop this thinking so much….youre too sensitive and you can’t take a joke

Well that's quite the drip feed, OP. It's not so much that your relationship has lost its spark but rather you're dating a man that doesn't respect you and may not even like you all that much.

So why do you put up with this treatment?

If he's got money he's probably shopping around for a younger replacement. Stop wasting your time and don't let anyone treat you so horribly.

Treeinthesky · 11/02/2025 20:59

What are you hoping for on these dates What does romance mean to you

ilovelamp82 · 11/02/2025 21:04

You're 45 and he's 56. You've plenty of time to find yourself a man that doesn't call you a pathetic cunt for asking for bare minimum behaviour. He's shown you repeatedly he's no intention of making the effort so at some point you have to take some of the blame for staying and putting up with it.

Get out. Find better.

SnoopysHoose · 11/02/2025 21:12

he calls me a pathetic cunt and stop this thinking so much
fuck the dates and bin him right now!

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 11/02/2025 21:18

Completelyjo · 11/02/2025 19:48

So you and this woman’s mutual friends laughed when she was trying to make her failing marriage work … and then she got cheated on?
Not sure what you’re trying to do with that story other that admit you’re an arsehole

That is exactly what I thought @Completelyjo! This poster seems to be proud about being so nasty. I really don't understand some people 😒

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 21:21

he calls me a pathetic cunt and stop this thinking so much

Being single is OK. It really is. No one calls you a cunt, for one thing.

Makeacircle · 11/02/2025 21:21

OP, why on earth are you focussed on these date nights in the rest of this shit show? The date night you desire is just putting lipstick on a pig. Get and stay away from him

DorothyStorm · 11/02/2025 21:25

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:13

I know its sounds stupid but I love him and he always said he would work on that stuff. He would for a while but it would never last, guess I kept thinking it would change one day

He isnt though.

One of the things he agreed to work on was his disrespect and name calling.
So he has decided to no longer work on this.

Eenameenadeeka · 11/02/2025 21:30

Texting during the meal is rude but the rest of it I don't see the issue. "Painstakingly" picking shirts? Really? Sounds like you expect him to be shopping for you instead, which is unreasonable.

bluegreen89 · 11/02/2025 21:52

I can't think of anything worse than having sex after I've eaten dinner...

Chairbowtie · 12/02/2025 00:20

Agree it's run its course.

I think he wants to keep you as a fallback girl, but emotionally detach, which is why he's offering you the date nights but being nasty.

He doesn't want you to be out there dating others and building a new social life without him.

Maybe he's on the apps and wants to appear single at home.

Or if he's talking to some young woman on the apps he wants to say he's not really in a relationship, it's just friends with you.

I'd get rid of him, go completely NC and not let him draw you back in.

Men in their 50's with a bit of money/status/social skills can be total players, they often want to collect women before they get "too old".

If he's on the apps he may be thinking he's in with a chance with 35 year old women if that agree to meet with him.

ItalianDreaming · 12/02/2025 00:22

Where is your autonomy in all of this?

Don't go shirt shopping if you don't want to.
Start the conversations you want to have.
Stop giving abusive men blow jobs.
Leave.

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:36

I would not expect to be still going on dates after 8 years. I assume you don't live together. You could still go out for drinks/meals out. Dressing up/high end restaurants might be nice if you want it to be romantic. However, maybe your boyfriend doesn't want to go out like this. Compromise ?

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:37

P.S. he needs to run his own errands.

SnowFrogJelly · 12/02/2025 00:45

I don't really get what the issue is over date nights and choosing shirts

Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 01:17

Exactly, and thats how I felt. I have no problem running errands
, ive been the admin for this whole thing.

I just resent being told this a romantic date and he bumps it to such.

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:22

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:36

I would not expect to be still going on dates after 8 years. I assume you don't live together. You could still go out for drinks/meals out. Dressing up/high end restaurants might be nice if you want it to be romantic. However, maybe your boyfriend doesn't want to go out like this. Compromise ?

We do all this all the time,. Normal couple in that respect…….we go out, shopping, errands majority of the time. He blows these days up prior to it….big time…we get there and it’s casual…..have no issue with casual….most of our time is casual but he does go on about how great it’s gonna be and how sexy im gonna be and how romantic he says he wants it to be……..then I find we are in a restaurant just eating out.

that is fine but maybe dont blow it up so much, turn up and give minimal….then explode at me because i say this is a bit shit, this whole thing

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:26

SnowFrogJelly · 12/02/2025 00:45

I don't really get what the issue is over date nights and choosing shirts

You’ll probably get it when youre in a sinking boat with someone and even the daft things become major issues.

I would imagine when you’re happy with someone, it feels happy

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:30

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:37

P.S. he needs to run his own errands.

Yeah, right? I felt like Erin the errand runner

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:37

Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:30

Yeah, right? I felt like Erin the errand runner

He absolutely wouldn’t do the same for me now…….used to but not now

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LemonMyrtle · 12/02/2025 02:49

You both sound you are on different pages not sure why you are still together. The name calling is awful by the way. For that and since you live apart and not married, it is easy to break it off. I assume the kids are older and either his or yours (not both), but not really part of this issue.

Make your own money, don’t rely on him for anything, dump him. All that build up language he is using, could find thousands of dark romance books with the same content. But they actually follow through. Highly recommend!

BlondiePortz · 12/02/2025 03:18

This all sounds very high maintenance

And yes as someome else referred too the word date after this long comes across as odd

And it seems you feel you need to be cared for, like you are a doll?

I am not sure if it is just the typing style you have used but something feels off with it all

InWalksBarberalla · 12/02/2025 03:48

Why are you even in a relationship with this man? You don't need an excuse to break up. Just dump the asshole and all the problems go away. You could probably even buy a good vibrator for the cost of one of these dates nights.

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