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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

OP posts:
Lairymary · 11/02/2025 18:19

So you're in a huff because you're skint and he bought himself some shirts? Should you even be going out on the luxury of a date night if you can't afford it, or is he expected to pay for it? Maybe he's had enough of being the one doling out the treats.

Stravaig · 11/02/2025 18:20

Dror · 11/02/2025 17:53

Can you expand on why you want flirty, sexy dates with a casual boyfriend who has called you dreadful names for years?

This, OP.

I think the only relationship you should contemplate right now is with an experienced accredited therapist who can help you reset your boundaries and review your ideas about love, support, and partnership.

blueshoes · 11/02/2025 18:20

I just read your latest posts about the relentless name calling. That is why he called you a spoilt brat, jesus. He is not emotionally supporting you, quite the opposite. Contempt is hard to come back from and is a relationship killer.

Not sure what he brings to the relationship. Wouldn't you be better off without him since you are so much younger? Can the trash take itself out?

Never2many · 11/02/2025 18:21

TBH I think that when a relationship deteriorates to the point that you can no longer live together it is already over.

You split up the moment he moved out, the rest now is just pretence to avoid openly admitting you’re not together any more.

I can see why you would want date nights esp based on the reasons why he moved out, but it seems clear that this relationship has run its course.

OneShoeShort · 11/02/2025 18:22

OP, I can’t get a good read on how unreasonable you’re being - you aren’t answering people’s questions about what the rest of this relationship consists of or whether you’re planning and paying for any of these dates.

But here’s the advice I recently gave my niece who is having her first post-university dating wobbles and maybe just maybe it’s useful food for thought for you too: the man who talks about you being or treats you as a princess in the beginning is the same man who will call you ungrateful and spoiled later. Relationships that are built on one person being generous in very conspicuous, compartmentalized ways depend on the recipient performing gratitude, and that sort of no-commitment generosity leaves the giver with their hand on the tap turning it off and on at will - that’s the appeal.

MissUltraViolet · 11/02/2025 18:23

For goodness sake, name calling has been relentless for years, lack of effort, ED issues and much older than you?

Who cares about the shit dates. Time to call it a day, plenty of men out there that won’t abuse you.

ssd · 11/02/2025 18:25

Date nights are just a bit silly IMHO

BringMeTea · 11/02/2025 18:25

Oh OP. You deserve better. You really really do. Time to get rid of him. 💐

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 18:25

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:13

I know its sounds stupid but I love him and he always said he would work on that stuff. He would for a while but it would never last, guess I kept thinking it would change one day

You’ve put up with some one who calls you names for years? OP, start loving yourself more.

You’re 45. Too old to be broke. I don’t mean this in a judgmental “why are you broke?” sort of way but in a - hey start prioritizing yourself and getting yourself what you need to live well. Stop putting effort into a guy who isn’t making you feel good about yourself and start putting effort into getting yourself financially comfortable.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 18:26

Dror · 11/02/2025 17:53

Can you expand on why you want flirty, sexy dates with a casual boyfriend who has called you dreadful names for years?

Yes, this. He won't change. Get some counselling and get out.

ClareBlue · 11/02/2025 18:29

Starlight1984 · 11/02/2025 16:25

Also, what exactly is a "romantic day out"?!?!

Feeding ducks or going across the Hudson river in New York, I've seen it in a film.

Dotto · 11/02/2025 18:30

his disrespect and name calling. I was also constantly told that whatever I thought or felt was wrong

The what now? No, you don't 'work on' an abusive relationship, you end it once and for all.

KrisAkabusi · 11/02/2025 18:36

SquashedSquid · 11/02/2025 18:18

My god, you sound like hard work.

Spot who only read the first post.

Lotsofsnacks · 11/02/2025 18:39

OP why would you stay with a man who’s been calling you names for years, and always thinks he’s right?! Also puts no effort in and acts like he is in a platonic relationship with you. It’s not what you want judging by your post. Why
stick around, dump, and find a man you’ve got more in common with. Life is too short. You are not living together, so why you clinging onto this ‘relationship’? You can do better for yourself

Mirabai · 11/02/2025 18:39

his disrespect and name calling. I was also constantly told that whatever I thought or felt was wrong

Why is the thread about date night and not about this?

FinallyHere · 11/02/2025 18:41

The name calling has been dreadful and relentless for years.

Why are you ok with this, ok enough to not dump him? Why do you want 'romantic time' with someone who is dreadful and relentlessly calls you names for years?

Why is that OP? What are the benefits of him?

Please don't let it be his money when you are skint on your own account. I sincerely hope this is only temporary and that you have a plan to get out.

Good luck.

MuggleMe · 11/02/2025 18:41

Sounds like your love language is quality time and gifts. And his is definitely not gifts. Perhaps more acts of service?

Dotto · 11/02/2025 18:43

MuggleMe · 11/02/2025 18:41

Sounds like your love language is quality time and gifts. And his is definitely not gifts. Perhaps more acts of service?

Turns out his love language is insults and derision.

Moier · 11/02/2025 18:47

Is there only me that cringe at " Date night ".
You mean your off out together..
To the pub or restaurant or cinema. Etc.
It's not a first Date where you meet publicly to see if you like each other.

MuggleMe · 11/02/2025 18:47

Dotto · 11/02/2025 18:43

Turns out his love language is insults and derision.

Oh. Agreed. I'm usually quite good at rtft.

failingrocks · 11/02/2025 18:56

Why are there so many similar posts like this lately? An OP (AI?) writing a long post about one thing, no replies for ages, and then suddenly the post is about something completely different because the OP changes the narratives. It’s just odd. And it’s a pattern.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:58

FinallyHere · 11/02/2025 18:41

The name calling has been dreadful and relentless for years.

Why are you ok with this, ok enough to not dump him? Why do you want 'romantic time' with someone who is dreadful and relentlessly calls you names for years?

Why is that OP? What are the benefits of him?

Please don't let it be his money when you are skint on your own account. I sincerely hope this is only temporary and that you have a plan to get out.

Good luck.

The benefits are nothing really. I’ll be honest, it used to be the sex that kept me going back and when he was in a loving mood, it felt great.

even that is left up to me to keep it going. No interest in changing things up, very routine, usually on a Sunday and he is that man that receives endless blow jobs and im lucky if i get the favour returned about once every 3 months

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TomatoSandwiches · 11/02/2025 19:02

Leave him op, you're not hard work you just have decent and reasonable standards, you don't deserve to be called names and have your emotions downplayed, ignored or blatantly dismissed.

He doesn't care or show he cares about you in the same way you do about him, he doesn't deserve your time, find someone else that does.

FinallyHere · 11/02/2025 19:09

he is that man that receives endless blow jobs and im lucky if i get the favour returned about once every 3 months

And you are that women whose behaviour suggests that you are ok with this situation, which appears to be quite long established.

Sorry, this really is beyond my understanding.

It's as if you are describing someone else's behaviour rather than your own. What's preventing you from taking action on your own behalf?

KTSl1964 · 11/02/2025 19:12

Sorry op your a Mug- he's not going to end it and you appear to get nothing out of this relationship - it's one sided and your needs aren't met. This is the facts - wake up and stop wasting your time - this is who he is. Get rid asap