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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

OP posts:
SleepingisanArt · 11/02/2025 16:51

At 56 he could also be in the throws of the male version on the menopause where his testosterone levels are significantly decreasing. This would make sex less important to him and if he perceives you to be complaining and spoilt then his appetite for sex will be even less. I agree with the PP who thinks he wants a proper relationship and not the teenage fantasy you appear to want......

MounjaroOnMyMind · 11/02/2025 16:52

Are you living with this man?

CulturalNomad · 11/02/2025 16:52

This all sounds pretty normal to me for a long-term relationship between two middle-aged people. Actually at age 56 your partner is heading into "late" middle-age.

There's an 11 year age gap which may be playing a role as well.

None of this means you have to "settle" for this if you're no longer satisfied with this relationship. It seems to me that you're looking for something ephemeral: that sexy/infatuation phase that you experience when you first state dating someone. Is that a reasonable expectation after 8 years together?

At 56 I doubt he's going to change drastically. If you're dissatisfied or unhappy you might consider moving on.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 16:53

MounjaroOnMyMind · 11/02/2025 16:52

Are you living with this man?

No. She says so in the OP.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 16:53

I agree on the shirts, and I agree he should put more effort in. I don’t believe he should buy you a present and feel this is grabby and deeply transactional, and I’d also react like he did if my husband was asking me to buy him things in return.

Hwi · 11/02/2025 16:54

Biology! Please don't ignore it! You are still shit-hot, as they say, but he is OLD! Why do people forget about biology?

gamerchick · 11/02/2025 16:54

Maybe the relationship has run it's course. Do you ever treat him?

Do you do something other than romantic dinners? Take turns in paying for them?

Try something fun. There are loads of experiences out there these days. Balloon rides, helicopter lesson, fly a plane. Go to hammer throwing/archery or whatever floats your boat.

Or just a walk somewhere pretty. That's free.

It's not really just your job to think of stuff though. Put your heads together.

Dotto · 11/02/2025 16:54

I think sexy exciting date nights may be more likely with a new partner, if that's what is important to you.

Sounds like familiarity to me. It wouldn't bother me, but it does to you.

JudgeBread · 11/02/2025 16:55

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Yeah OP, didn't you know that in a long term relationship you're not supposed to want romance or sexuality or seduction! You should be grateful he wants to take you shirt shopping and treat you to a delightful evening looking at the back of his phone and talking about bills! How dare you want romance and good sex after eight whole years, it's silent missionary in the dark once a month and nothing but chaste little pecks on the lips forever more! No more flirting, no more making out like teenagers, no more dates that give you butterflies, you're adults for god's sake! Complacency, boredom and routine is what's supposed to happen. That's marriage.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 16:55

Also I’m not sure what you feel is sexy about wanting to be bought something op. It gives me the right ick.

Jellycatspyjamas · 11/02/2025 16:55

Buying shirts is hardly him spoiling himself, you went out for the day and you’re skint - did he pay for whatever you did during the day and for dinner? Maybe he feels that’s a treat in itself? I think after 8 years the shine is going to go off things, how does “date night” differ from you both just spending time together?

Easipeelerie · 11/02/2025 16:56

If you’d described this scenario after decades and children together, I’d say there might be something to work on.
But as this isn’t the case, what’s point of being with someone if it’s no fun. You may as well split up. He’s not that into you any more.

Flamingoknees · 11/02/2025 16:56

It doesn't matter what we think, you aren't happy, so just end it. You say you don't live together, so it should be easy.
You do sound a bit "princessy" - in the the huff because no gift and not all about you. Also, why don't YOU steer the conversations the way you want them to go. Why don't YOU initiate sex. It seems like a date is something he has to do for you, rather than something for both of you. Do you think your conversation is boring, hence the phone coming out? Do you flirt and flatter him, or just wait to be flirted with?

Sparkletastic · 11/02/2025 16:56

Who pays for the date nights? Do you do anything together other than shopping / meals out?

Anxioustealady · 11/02/2025 16:58

MabelMora · 11/02/2025 16:50

OP literally says in her first post that they don't live together.

I see it now. Rude tone to your comment. I did ask if I'd missed it.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 16:58

Hwi · 11/02/2025 16:54

Biology! Please don't ignore it! You are still shit-hot, as they say, but he is OLD! Why do people forget about biology?

56 is not capital letters old, though. If we're talking biology, a lot of 45 year old women seem to lose their sex drive, from what you can read on here.

KrisAkabusi · 11/02/2025 17:00

It does sound like you're putting all the pressure on him. You don't want him to talk about work or kids. You don't want him buying anything for himself without buying you something too. You say you want a romantic day out, but you don't seem to have made any suggestions as to what that might be, just more things he shouldn't do. You need to take a bit of control. Make suggestions and plans yourself.

Notonthestairs · 11/02/2025 17:01

So unless he buys you something you feel like staff?

You said the rest of the date was nice, sweet, affectionate. You had a nice meal together. Sounds good.
The gap and irritation appears to be the lack of a gift for you.

Obviously you should end any relationship if you are unhappy. There is little point in continuing to spend time together otherwise.

Ddakji · 11/02/2025 17:02

I‘m a bit confused - are date nights the only time you see each other? Or do you see each other at different times and date nights are different?

After 8 years it sounds a bit forced to me to be honest.

Phones in the table is outright rude (even if you have kids). And him calling you a spoilt brat is very out of order.

I think you’ve want different things from this set up.

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 17:03

Is the romantic spark alive at all?

I can see why date nights might become a bit routine after 8 years, but if you don’t live together the question is whether there is the opportunity for romantic spontaneity to replace that. How is your sex life?

What it comes down to, though, is are you happy with what you’re getting? You’ve talked about it and nothing’s changed. So if this isn’t what you want going forward you need to stop it and start looking elsewhere.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:03

Notonthestairs · 11/02/2025 17:01

So unless he buys you something you feel like staff?

You said the rest of the date was nice, sweet, affectionate. You had a nice meal together. Sounds good.
The gap and irritation appears to be the lack of a gift for you.

Obviously you should end any relationship if you are unhappy. There is little point in continuing to spend time together otherwise.

That’s how I read it, it was getting to the crunch and basically she had her hand out and it’s annoyed her he didn’t buy her something, otherwise she’d have been perfectly happy with the date. With the excuse she’s skint so he should be buying her stuff in return for her picking his shirts.

if you want paying that’s staff.

OneShoeShort · 11/02/2025 17:04

When you plan a romantic day and treat him, how does he respond?

LBFseBrom · 11/02/2025 17:04

It sounds as though you are both a bit fed up with the relationship. As you don't live together why not have a break from each other and see how you feel? Perhaps be open to dates with someone else. A change is as good as a rest after all. Not every relationship has longevity and you've both done all that before, including children. You should be having some fun and not being like an old married couple.

HereComesEverybody · 11/02/2025 17:05

OP I understand where you're coming from. You feel he's getting complacent in the relationship & you're willing to put in the effort to keep the spark alive.

I think far too many couples fall into a rut & then can't find their way back out of it

I'm married 22 years this year & my dh is a v romantic person. We still prioritise our relationship & make time to go out just the two of us & have fun. It's vital for us.

I would be v sad if dh didn't seem to want to do it anymore.

We have plenty of mundane, routine daily grind days but we're really good at carving out time to spend together doing things we enjoy. Sometimes it's a fancy dinner out. Last weekend we did that as it was dhs birthday..we got dressed up in our finest & went for cocktails & a gorgeous meal & a nightcap before a taxi home.

Another recent date was a day in another city wandering around some galleries & a long browse in a favorite big bookshop with quite a few purchases. Then we had coffee & cake in a traditional tearoom with our new books. That was a great day

We go to the theatre, cinema, gigs, & we love a city break or night in a hotel.

I truly think it helps keep us connected as a couple first & foremost. Not just mum & dad (young adult dc) or employee or family carer etc

I think you should go for a coffee or a drive with him & have a chat about it in a calm non blaming way

HopingForTheBest25 · 11/02/2025 17:05

To me a partner is someone you share a life with. So a home, finances, children, time. Not necessarily all of these things but certainly some common commitments. Anything else is dating imo and not a partnership.

I'd expect to help a partner I lived with to choose shirts. But that would be on a normal Saturday, and there would be other time set aside for a 'date'. I wouldn't expect to do chores at a time earmarked for a romantic date. I'd think that where couples don't live together, the time spent with each other would be more precious and therefore you'd expect it to feel special and have more effort made.

To me, if he wants the kind of relationship where you do boring shit together, that comes with the sort of long term commitment where one of you isn't doing fine financially while the other is skint - it's more of a sharing lives situation. That's not what you two seem to have.

My other cynical thought was that he's had his head turned, or is bored and cba. Either way I think you do deserve better. I always think that behaviour changes are worth taking g note of - it's a shift in attitude towards you.